May 29, 2026
Nicolas Cage & Brendan Gleason on Spider-Noir: Marvel’s Darkest Spider-Man Yet
Spider-Man. Nicolas Cage. Film noir. Brendan Gleason. Spider-Noir. A black-and-white detective story wrapped inside a Marvel universe.
Yeah, we’re doing that this week.
On this episode of Pop Culture Weekly with Kyle McMahon, I sit down with Nicolas Cage and Brendan Gleeson to talk all about Prime Video’s Spider-Noir, the stylish new live-action series based on one of the coolest Spider-Man variants ever created.
Nic shares how Spider Noir became one of the rare projects that turned out exactly the way he imagined it, the artistic influences behind his performance and which one of his iconic characters he’d throw into Spider Noir’s world just to watch the chaos unfold.
Brendan Gleason joins me to discuss stepping into the role of Silvermane, why he decided to reinvent the character for this version of the story, working alongside Nicolas Cage and what makes Spider-Noir feel so different from traditional superhero fare.
Plus, I make my case for why you should absolutely watch the series in authentic black and white. I’m not saying I’m right… but I’m right.
If you’re a Spider-Man fan, a Nicolas Cage fan, a Brendan Gleason fan, a noir fan or just someone who misses when comic book adaptations took weird creative swings, this episode is for you.
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In this episode of pop Culture Weekly, It's all about
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Spider Neir. I speak with Nicholas Cage and Brendan Gleeson.
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Let's go.
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Welcome to pop Culture Weekly with Kyle McMahon from iHeartRadio
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your pop culture news, views, reviews and celebrity interviews on
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all the movies, TV music and pop culture UKRABE Weekly.
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Here's Kyle McMahon.
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Nick no Net, Hello, and welcome to pop Culture Weekly
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with Kyle McMahon. I of course am Kyle McMahon. And
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this is the show where sometimes your friendly neighborhood Spider
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Man is less friendly neighborhood and more emotionally exhausted detective
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smoking in an alley while jazz music plays in the background.
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And to be honest, I'm into it. Today's episode, Degenerates
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is all about Spider Noir, the brand new prime video
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series that brings one of Marvel's coolest alternate Universe Spider
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Verse characters into live action. And if you're a longtime
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comic fan, you already know people have been wanting this
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for years.
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I have so a little history.
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Spider Noir first appeared back in two thousand and nine
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as part of Marvel Noir which was like a special
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series which reimagine classic Marvel heroes and like darker, grittier
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worlds inspired by pulp crime fiction and you know, old
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school detective stories from the thirties and forties. So instead
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of like bright colors and Spandex and Avengers level spectacle,
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Spider Noir's world is all shadows and corruption and danger
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and morally ambiguous characters. I think, like Spider Man by
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way of old detective movies and classic film noir.
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This version of Spider Man exists.
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In an alternate timeline where New York is crawling with
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gangsters and crooked politicians and crime bosses rather than like
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giant alien invasions every other Tuesday.
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And visually the character is just so dope.
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That trench coat, the fedora, the black mask with the
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white glowing eyes. The whole esthetic of Spider Noir looks
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like somebody threw Spider Man into a rain soaked detective
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movie and was like, you know, good luck out there, buddy,
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and Spider Noir got a huge popularity boost in Spider
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Man into the Spider Verse, where Nicholas Cage voiced the
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character with this kind of like dramatic old Hollywood style
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seriousness that made everybody, including me, like instantly obsessed. He
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literally legit was delivering lines about Rubik's cubes and the
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wind and Nazis like he was starring in the most
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important movie ever made, and it was completely amazing. And
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now we finally get a full live action series on
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Prime Video with Nicholas Cage stepping into the role physically
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this time around, and it's like one of those projects
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that should exist, Like, I'm so glad it's finally here.
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Superhero fatigue has arguably become a real thing lately because
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so much of that genre, you know, has become a
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little bit identical. But Spider Noir has a very distinct identity.
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It's very stylish, it's very stylized, it's very atmospheric. It's
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less like save the multiverse everybody, and more solve the
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murder before you know the city eats itself alive crime bosses,
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which is a very cool vibe. And the series, the
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Spider Noir series on Prime Video is so awesome. I
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love stylized work. You know The Great Gatsby with Leonardo DiCaprio,
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three hundred, you know Sin City. I love that kind
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of stylized thing. And Spider Noir delivers it in droves.
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The cast is really great. Oh and what's cool. You
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can watch it in black and white like a real
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you know, noir project, or in true hue ful color.
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Now.
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I watched it in black and white, which they call
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authentic black and white, and I really feel that this
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series should be watched in authentic black and white. It
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was filmed to be watched in black and white, you know,
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it was filmed as a project specifically for black and whit.
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So like that's where it really really shines. The true hue,
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full color version is there for you. You know, if
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for some reason you're like I can't watch black and white,
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you know you have that option. But take it from me, degenerates,
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I watch it in authentic black and white, and I
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think that's the way to go. But you do you
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and let me know, you know, if you feel differently.
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Today we are talking to two absolute legends that star
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in prime videos Spider Noir, Nicholas Cage and Brendan Gleeson.
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So first up, Brendan Gleeson joins the Spider Verse as
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Silver Main. And if you know Brendan Gleeson's work, whether
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it's in Bruges or honestly fifty other incredible performances. You know,
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this man brings gravitas to everything he does. And then
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later I talk with Nicholas Cage himself about becoming Spider
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Man in Spider Noir live action, why the character resonates
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with fans and so much more so you ready, let's
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get into it. Brendan Gleeson is one of those actors
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who somehow makes every project instantly more interesting the moment
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he appears on screen. You know him from his Oscar
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nominated performance in The Banshees of Insurance, his unforgettable role
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as mad Eye Moody in the Harry Potter films. You
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know him a huge potterhead, his terrifying turn in Twenty
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eight Days Later, and brilliant performances in films like in Bruges,
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Gangs of New York and Brave Heart. Brennan could be terrifying, hilarious,
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heartbreaking and intimidating, depending on what the role and scene
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calls for. And now he is entering the Spider verse
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as Silver Maine, which is like one of the iconic
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crime figures connected to the Spider Man.
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Lord.
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We talked all about it and here It is my
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conversation with Brendan Gleason. Hey, Kyla, you know good, thank you,
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so congrats on the series. I really love it, and
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you know, I wonder you have played everything from hardened
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criminals to you know, deeply emotional, complex, dramatic characters.
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There's something really fun.
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For me to see you, you know, in this world,
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this dark noir comic book world.
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What drew you to Spider Noir.
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Just that the world, the whole world of it, and
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the possibility to go into a kind of an earlier
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mode of movie making, learning what you loved from it,
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getting to have a go at all that stuff, and
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at the same time being involved in something that was
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so technologically advanced that you could kind of do it
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and do it different respect of on it, that you
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could show the color version of it, and that you
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can have guys swinging around between buildings, and you can
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do all the special effects that are possible at cinematically
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these days.
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So there was that, and then the writing of it was.
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Really sharp, and working with Nick Cage was a huge
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drug because I wanted to work with him, you know,
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I just love his I love everything about the way
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he approaches the work.
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And all that stuff.
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So there were so many things honestly drawn me into it,
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and it was kind of one of those things that
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worked out pretty much the way I was hoping it would.
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That's awesome.
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Yeah, your character is such a classic Spider Man, you
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know character, this version obviously is much more grounded and
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noir inspired.
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How did you approach how did you approach building him
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for this particular universe?
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If you will, Well, I have to be honest with you.
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I didn't really refer back to the original character very
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much because it's he came as a kind of an
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you know, match with Italian mob boss type of guy
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was the way he was written, and I wanted to
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kind of move away from that if possible. And I
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had a chat early on at the process before we
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decided whether this was a good idea or not, with
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Orn and Steve and the guys to say, look, I
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you know, my Italian is questionable.
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How would you feel about it?
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Because there were a lot of Irish mob bosses around
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that time that we go this guy.
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We have a new iteration.
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Of a new basically that we start from scratch almost,
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So I have to be honest, and I know, possibly
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a lot of the people, the officionados might be a
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bit disappointed.
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But I didn't really.
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I didn't feel there was any point in going back
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into something because he had arrived at such a different
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kind of a character, you.
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Know what I mean.
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Yeah, And also the fact that nore itself really is
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just such a different challenge, and the fact that it
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was grounded and he wanted to he wanted to be
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real in a way that was kind of very earthy,
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so underground him and stuff that I could access myself,
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you know.
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I made him into a Dublin gangster.
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We kind of gave him a backstory from extreme powerty,
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which was true of Dublin at the turn of the
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century and all that, and sort of gave it a
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little bit of veracity that you kind of dig into
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that was kind of instinctive for me rather than learned. Okay,
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So that's that's to be honest, That's that's what's kind
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of the decision.
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And I have to be honest.
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Sometimes I felt I should have gone full Edward g
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Robinson on this. I should have kind of you know,
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I would have loved to really buy I just think
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he's I kept thinking I couldn't get his him out
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of my head. And at times even in the shooting,
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I say, I wonder if I should have been that
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kind of you know, classic American gangster, and I kind
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of thought maybe no, because like Nick was doing a
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lot of that stuff in terms of his his his
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stuff that he was doing. It was he was kind
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of buying into all that Cagny stuff and whatever whoever
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he was accessing. It was just and I said, well,
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maybe it's no harm to have a little bit of
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a different thing thrown in mixed there.
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Well, I think you did it perfectly.
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I can't wait for everybody to see Spider Noir so
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I can freaking talk about it to people.
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Thank you, Brendan, Thanks a lot, Thanks, thanks a lot.
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Have a great day you too.
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Brendan Gleason. Seriously, what a phenomenal actor. And I love
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hearing him talk about Spider Noir, like it's such a
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cool role, it's such cool projects, such a cool you
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know everything about it. I just freaking love So it
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was cool to hear him talk about that. And in
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a superhero landscape where everybody's trying to top the end
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of the Universe every year, it's kind of refreshing that,
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you know, Spider Noir just kind of lives here. All right,
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We're gonna take a quick break to pay the bills.
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But when we come back, Nicholas Cage joins me to
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talk Spider Noir, stepping into live action with this character,
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and so much more.
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Don't Go Anywhere, be back in.
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Sixty Welcome back to Pop Culture Weekly. Thank you for
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supporting our sponsors who allow us to bring the show
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to you each and every week. All right, let's talk
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Nicholas Cage. Like what else could be said about Nicholas
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Cage at this point? He is his own genre. Whether
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you know him from Leaving Las Vegas, Mandy Face Off,
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Long Legs, or like nine thousand other wildly different performances.
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Nicholas Cage is one of the most fascinating actors working
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today because you really don't know which version of Nicholas
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Cage you're about to get. The man can do action, horror, comedy,
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prestige's drama, surrealism, full chaos, gremlin energy, sometimes all in
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the same movie. He's an Academy Award winner, and he's
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a national treasure literally and figuratively, and Spider Noir feels
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perfect for him. Fans loved his performance and into the
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Spider Verse because he fully committed to the old school
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noir detective energy in a way that only Nicholas Kate could,
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and now he is bringing that same energy into the
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live action version. Here he is the one and only
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Nicholas Cage.
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Thank you so much, Nick for joining me.
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I really appreciate it.
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Thanks Kyle, thanks for having.
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Me, of course. So first of all, congratulations on the series.
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I absolutely love it, and I you know, you have
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played so many iconic, kind of larger than life characters
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throughout your career, but I feel like there's something especially
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perfect about you stepping into this kind of dark, pulpy
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Spider Man universe. What was the thing about Spider Noir
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that I hooked you into this?
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can tell you that this is one of the rare
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times when a vision I had in my imagination manifested
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exactly as I had hoped it would, And it doesn't
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happen often, and I wasn't entirely sure it was going
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to get there until I finally saw all eight episodes
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and I went but it was scary. I had this concept,
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