Friday the 13th Special: Jason Vorhees, Horror Highlights & Pop Culture Delights

0:00 In this episode of pop Culture Weekly, it's all about the Friday the thirteenth franchise. Amanda Biez comes back. Let's go. Welcome to pop Culture Weekly with Kyle McMahon from iHeartRadio your pop culture news, views, reviews and celebrity interviews on all the movies, TV, music, and pop culture u Crab Weekly. Here's Kyle McMahon. Na Net, Hello, and welcome to pop Culture Weekly with Kyle McMahon. I of course am Kyle McMahon. I thank you once again for tuning in to another episode of iHeartRadio's pop Culture Weekly. And I'm really excited because we're recording this on Friday the thirteenth and Amanda, my friend Amanda is back once again. Welcome back, thank you, and we are both huge Friday the thirteenth fans massive, So this is great for us. This is like our day.

0:57 And there's another Friday the thirteenth day coming in December. Oh really yeah? So I think it happens three times this year. Three times. Yeah. When was the first like March or something. I don't know, I'm bad at that, but obviously this is the second one, and then the third is in December. I was told by our friend Christa Cooper yesterday that Friday the thirteenth happened when the calendar starts on a Sunday for that month. Yeah, I vaguely remember her saying something like that. Yeah, I don't know if that's true. Yeah, yeah, me either. And you know, our producer would normally look it up, but I don't have a producer. But let's see. And it did start on a Sunday this month, and December actually starts on a Sunday, December first. Oh yeah, so maybe it's right. Who knows? But are you ready to jump in? Yeah, all right, let's jump in. So we're gonna start with what's out this week? So what's out this week? In singles? The Weekend, who I absolutely love.

2:12 He has a new single called Dancing in the Flame, which have you heard it yet? Was that what you were playing earlier? Yeah? Yeah, I heard that. Yeah, it is so good. I love it. He and we're going to talk about this actually in a moment, but his new video for Dancing in the Flame was entirely filmed on an iPhone sixteen bro match Yeah, and the video is really really cool. So I love the Weekend And then Beautiful Day by Mike Posner, who I adore as a artist, as a songwriter, as a producer, as a poet, as a person. He's an amazing person. You can listen to my interview with Mike Posner. We had a forty five minute sit down last year or so. And the song is just inspiring and happy and catchy, and it's just everything I love about Mike Posner. So that's out. Then, in albums, Miranda Lambert has her new album Postcards from Texas. Eminem has released a new version of the Death of Slim Shady kupdi Grat album. I remember we talked about that, yeah when it came out. So this is the expanded Mourners Edition.

3:23 Oh and the Expanded Mourners Edition features four new tracks. One is a skit and then three songs fuel the Shady Edition featuring West Side Boogie and Grip Like My s with fifteen after and the song Kyrie and Luca with two Chains. So I'm a big Eminem fan Marshall Mathers Slim Shady, so I will be. I think I already did add it to my you know, music library, So I'm excited to jump into this. And then Auntie Yolanda Adams, who is a legendary gospel singer. I've had her on the show numerous times. I call her Auntie Auntie.

4:12 I love her so much. Her new album, Sunny Days is out. It is her first album in thirteen years. Oh yeah, and she has I mean she is a like when I tell you she's a legend, she is a legend. I mean. First of all, she hosts her own nationally syndicated morning gospel show. She's one of the best selling gospel artists of all time, with over fifteen million albums sold. She has multiple multi platinum albums. She's won four Grammys, four Dove Awards, five Beet Awards, six NAACP Image Awards, six Soul Train Music Awards, sixteen Stellar Awards, two BMI Awards, and she's the first gospel artist ever to win an American Music Award. She is so.

5:03 Amazing, that sounds incredible. Yeah, She's literally a legend. She was named by Billboard in two thousand and nine as the Gospel Artist of the Decade. Oh my goodness. Yeah. President Obama awarded her with the Presidential Time Yeah, the Presidential Lifetime Achievement Award for her volunteer service. She was inducted into the Gospel Music Hall of Fame in twenty seventeen. I mean, she's just a legend, and she's my auntie yo, so know she is. I love her so much. And so Auntie, come back. We got to get you on the show to talk about your first new album in thirteen years. It's Crazy Sunny Day. So anyway, that's out. In movies, Speak No Evil, which is a Blumhouse movie.

5:50 I want to see that movie so bad with James McAvoy. Yes, I feel like I've seen trailers for this. I have, like every day for the last ten years. Hasn't been like that, hasn't been that look, But yeah, I want to see it really really badly as well. It looks so good, it really does. And I love James McAvoy, I love Blumhouse, Like you just can't go wrong with either of those. Yeah. Then the Killers Game with Dave Bautista. Well I want to see that one too. Yeah, that looks great a book, I think so. Yeah, I saw. The trailer to it, I think this weekend when I went to the movies. Yeah, and it looked really interesting. Yeah, yeah, it looks like fun and funny and thrillery and action. Yeah. And then one of my favorite directors, Kevin Smith. You know he is no, of course not listen.

6:39 He has done Clerks, Maul, Rats, Chasing Amy, Clerks two, Clerks three. He's got incredible films. I literally love all of his work. He has a film called The four thirty Movie that is out today right now that is kind of an o to being a movie loving teenager in the eighties. So as a movie lover, I obviously want to see it. Anyway, as a Kevin Smith fan, I want to see it. And then I love like nostalgia movies, so like it takes place in the eighties, so I love movies like that, so I'm on board for all of it. So I can't wait to see that.

7:20 No one's streaming. Have you heard of this film called Uglies? Uglies? Yes, I have or a it's a film, right, is it or a show? Or is it a show? Yeah? Where like all of them, once you turn sixteen, you like have to get plastics or something like that. Yeah, I've heard of it. Yeah, Yeah, that looks super interesting. It could either be horrendous or awesome. Like I feel like there's no middle ground. Like, nobody's gonna watch it and be. Like, I think for a topic like that, it's either a hit or miss. Yeah, you're either gonna nail it or you're gonna butcher it. Exactly. It is a movie, actually, oh it is. Yeah. So the Byeline is in a futuristic dystopia with enforced beauty standards. A teen awaiting mandatory cosmetic surgery embarks on a journey to find her missing friend, and it stars Joey King and Laverne Cox. It looks pretty interesting, so I'll check that out at some point, and then How to Die Alone on Hulu, which is that looks really cool as well. Then like what's out this week? This is technically a pre order, but going back to the weekend with Dancing in the Flame the new iPhones.

8:24 Oh, I saw that they have new colors. Well and totally new phones and everything. I mean besides the colors. I like the colors. I folks on the colors and they come out really yes, well and the camera features yeah yeah, yeah, the colors. Yes. So I got up at the butt Cracker Dough on this morning to do my pre order. So I have my iPhone sixteen Pro Max coming next Friday. Yeah, I always get the new iPhone. I love it. So one of those people I am. Yeah, I every no shame, Nope, every year I have gotten the new iPhone since the very first one. Oh my goodness. It's like a tradition, it is. Yep. So I'm excited about that. All right. What we watched this week? So I watched a couple of things. I saw a screener yesterday of this upcoming documentary called super Man The Christopher Reeves Story, and I was crying in the theater. It is incredible. I'm gonna be talking with Christopher Reeves's children on an upcoming episode of Pop Culture Weekly, and I was just bawling, really literally bawling. I mean, so, I don't know if you're familiar with Christopher Reeve, but he was Superman, like the original Superman. Yes, so he did what like four movies, and from you know, from seeing I mean I was too young like when this all happened, but from watching the documentary, everybody saw him as Superman.

9:54 And then he got in a horrendous freak accident with the horse. What you're talking about, wasn't he paralyzed? Yes? Yes? Yeah? From was it the neck down down. Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about, and. Could not breathe on his own. I mean he was you go from literally being Superman to breathing by a machine. Yeah, I mean it was heartbreaking and then oh my god. Anyway, Yeah, it is really good. It will have a limited release in theaters and then it'll be available on Max. And I highly recommend everybody sees that. It is amazing. I also saw Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice. Did you see it? I haven't. I'm scheduled to see it this weekend. Okay, I have my ticket and everything.

10:37 Okay, it is so good it is. I actually rewatched Beetlejuice. Yeah, two days ago. I should have done that. That's what I did. Yeah, well I had never seen it. You've never seen kind of here you go listen. Okay, I have no excuse, but that's your list of movies that I gave you. Yeah, but I watched it and I liked it. It was really good. Yeah, but the ending kind of pissed me off. Well this is for me anyway, This like is just a continuation. Like you know, some movies, like some sequels are like they tried this is like for me anyway, I feel like I'm right back in that world. He is so and Tim Burton, who is one of my ever obviously directed it and everything, and it's just I just loved it so so much.

11:25 Yeah, I'm so excited to see it because I see so many like record that it's breaking. It has such good reviews. Yes, like making me so amped up. To see it. Yeah, it is so good. Yeah. We both watched something this week, which we'll talk about in a second. But besides that, what else have you? What did you watch this week? So? I watched People Juice. This week I watched Twisters. I hadn't seen it, so I finally got a chance to see it. Yeah it was It was okay, Okay, it was okay, okay, okay. Here's my thing with Twisters. Okay. I wanted the tornadoes to be more dramatic. I wanted it to be more like I wanted them to be bigger. And I did like the storyline with Kate and you know what was his name? The main here, Glenn Powell's character, I can't remember his name, but I did like that storyline about how you know it starts off with the E F five and you know, it kind of goes into like her feelings about it and everything. So I thought that was pretty interesting to see her go from being going through PTSD to branching out of Rachelle and realizing, you know, this is really her passion. So I did like that. But I guess my only complaint was the tornadoes.

12:37 They were just so small compared to the big to the first movie. I wanted like the towns upside down. I wanted like Cow's flying again. But the storyline was pretty good. It's just my only complaint was. The tornadoes were just such babies. They were very skinny. They were very skinny, and I'm looking at the Todays, I'm like, oh my god, Oh it's starting. It's you know, the weather's changing, the sky's getting dark. Okay, it's about to go down. No, it's the skinniest tornado you've ever seen. I'm like, what is this? Yeah. I do feel like in some ways they went a little so I feel like it was less what's it called, like End of the World type film? Yeah, or like actual film? Yeah, you know what I mean, which is not bad. Yeah, it's not bad.

13:28 Yeah, But I really do like those dramatic scenes because I feel like it contributes to the movie. It's like, it's a. Disaster film, disaster, So where's the disaster at You're. Like, it's not enough of a disaster. No, And you know, I was in the car of my sister. We were talking about it, and I was saying, you know, maybe I'm just thinking too hard about it. Maybe I'm just comparing it too much to the first one, which I shouldn't because the first one had massive tournado I mean destruction. Yeah, oh like, oh, but this one, you know, the stir line was good. I we'll give it that. The actors all did like a phenomenal job. Like it was just it really had me into the film. Yeah, I really loved it. What else did you say?

14:08 I actually watched Joker for the first time because I know that Joker two is coming out yea, and I want to watch Joker too. I love Lady Gaga, so when I found out that she was Harley Quinn, I was like, Okay, I have to watch this film. So I had never watched Joker, So I watched it this week and I freaking loved it. It was a good movie. Yeah, oh my goodness, Like what's his name, Joaquin Phoenix. Yeah, Oh my goodness. His acting was phenomenal. Yeah, he's amazing. He's an amazing actor and like everything is ever done. Oh yes, Like by the end of the movie, I literally had chills. Yeah, you know, I was like, Oh my goodness, this guy. He should have won awards. I don't know if he did, but. I think it was nominated at least. Oh my god.

14:50 But he It was just such a great performance, and the storyline was something that I had never you know, releas seen before. I think that it's like a whole new direction with joke, like looking at his backstory. Yeah, so that was really interesting. Yes, I love what they did with that. Yeah. Yeah, and I'm looking forward to that to the second one as well, because because I too, am a big fan of The Joker with Waking Phoenix, and I'm excited to see I'm interested to see where they go with this, you know what I mean. Yeah, the trailer it is kind of like not giving away too much, but that's and that's what I like. So I love that.

15:30 But at the same time, it's like, you know kind of what it's going to be about, but you don't know how they're going to execute it exactly, which that's what I like when trailers. Yeah, you know, you know how I feel about trailers nowadays. I feel like they tell you. The whole freaking movie exactly, and that puss me off. For this one, it's like, okay, yeah, to find out, I gotta watch it to find out what it's going to be about. Yeah, yeah, I love that. What anything else you saw? I saw Lego Batman movie. I love the Lego Batman movie. Yeah. One of my friends, she'sne wanted me to watch it, which is really funny because I didn't plan to see Joker, and it's just really weird how like, I watched Lego Batman movie and then I watched like the Joker Phoenix after, Like I had no intention to do that, but it was all max and I was like, okay, I watched this, and then I was like, oh, so imagine watching Lego Batman movie and then watching Watcheren Phoenix's Joker right after.

16:25 But Lego Batman was really funny. It was really fun. You know, It's something that I normally wouldn't put on, but I had a blast watching that movie. It's such a fun. Movie and I was really surprised at how much I really enjoyed it. Yeah, yeah, me too. When I saw it, you know, I went in I'm a huge Batman fan, so like when I saw it, I was like, I mean, I'm gonna say it just because it's Batman, Like, oh god, And then I'm like, what this is? All? Was so funny? Yeah, like his little quirky like lines. It was so different because I feel like I grew up watching like The Dark Knight and stuff like that, and Batman was always so serious. But seeing this Batman like it was kind of, you know, funny, and I was like, this is kind of nice. Yeah. Yeah, I do love the Lego Batman movie.

17:08 But that's about it. That's all I watched this week. Well there's something else you watched that I also watched, and it is called. I Can Smell Yep, no bye bye. You know because I've been saying that to my sister oh as a joke. Wait, why didn't tell me why she went into work yesterday? And her coworker said the same thing. Really, yes, I just like, not you too, Like it's become such an iconic line. Yes. What we're talking about is, of course, the deliverance on Netflix, which if you have not seen this movie, wow, I loved it. It. It is from Lee Daniels, who is a celebrated writer direct it is I would say he's or not. I would say it's it's his first horror movie. I mean, if you look at his other work, he's done Monsters, Ball, The Woodsman's Shadow Boxer, Precious the Butler, Pimp, United States, First Billy Holiday. I mean, this is his first horror movie. I loved it. Its stars Oscar winning celebrated actress Glenn Close in the craziest role. I was floored.

18:31 First of all, I didn't realize it was Glenn Close when I watched the trailer and then when I to and to be honest, so just to give if you haven't listened to it, or you haven't watched it, you know listening. It follows the Jackson family in Indiana. They move into a house where they start experiencing like strange occurrences that eventually convince them that there's something more going on. And and it's based on a true story which is wild, which is crazy wild, And oh a, Monique's in it too, Omar Epps Andrew Day, who I love, you know she sings that song rise Up? Oh she does, Yeah, she wrote, saying that, So Andrew ellis Taylor who I just had on a couple of weeks ago on the show, and I Okay, So when I saw the trailer, let me put it this way, I was like, is that a white woman playing a black woman when talking about the grandmother.

19:31 When I was watching the trailer, I'm like, is the color of my TV messed up? Like what is going on? And then I google it and I'm like, that's not Glenn Close, Like what are you talking about? That was not Glenn Close in that trailer. And then I like go to the Wikipedia page and I'm like, that's Glenn Close. And so then I'm like, I hope that she is not playing a black. Woman because that would be problematic. Right, extremely probably. So I'm like, she is a legend. There's no way that she was Like yeah, that's like like essentially like playing black flight Wait face, you know what I'm saying. I'm like, there's no and Lee Daniels is a you know, black creator, director, writer, producer, Like he wouldn't do that.

20:19 No, he wouldn't allow that, you know. So I'm like, there, what am I missing? Yeah, am I missing. Yeah, I'm like, there's something like what is your Like, I don't get it. So then I started watching the film and then I'm like, Okay, I don't understand what's happening. Like obviously she's not wearing black flace, like I realized that once I start, But I'm like, is she supposed to be playing a black woman? Like her daughter is black blah blah blah, which could be adopted or whatever, but everything about it, I was just very confused. So then I googled it and the director Lee Daniels said that everybody knows every black person knows a person like ol Burda in their community, meaning like that white woman or person. But I think he said he might have said woman, that white woman who you know is very ingrained in the black culture dates like mostly exclusively black men, that sort of thing. So she was actually playing that person.

21:20 So that made me feel better because I'm like, Okay, I'm not watching racism, like, you know, for fun. But having said that, she was amazing. She was really good, amazing. Her performance in that role had me give it gave me chills, yeah, you know, especially the ending scene. Yes, that scene, Yes, was powerful yes, and the whole film, Like it was almost like there was two separate films that were kind of, I feel like, kind of combined in one. Like I feel like the first half was like a drama you know where I'm like, I. Got Tyler Perry kind of vibes in the first half. Yeah, yeah, like that kind of like, yeah, the dramatics.

22:01 Of it exactly because you know, no spoilers here, but for you listening, the film basically is in the beginning is there's questions on if this mother is abusing her children, and Alberta, her mother, also starts questioning it because all this weird stuff is happening. So it's very much like a wait, where's the horror? Where's this for me? Anyway? I mean obviously it's a real life harder. I felt like that too, because then you had CPS coming in exactly, and then you had question like, you know, then there was a weird photographer that was USA, and it's just where what's going on here? I'm just so confused exactly. Yeah, and it but it had me on the edge of my seat the entire time, even like even like the drama part. Yeah, Like the first half I was like oh my gosh, like is she.

22:54 No, I texted you, Yeah, I would like to answer me this, like is she really abusing her kids? Yeah? Yeah, because and that's how I was when I watched it. I'm like, no, like she's just a single mother, like trying to do her best, Like, no, she wouldn't do that. And then I'm like maybe she would. Like it's just like it's so, it's so good had me doubting. Yes, you know my initial like you know, reaction to it exactly. And then again no spoilers, but Glenn close the whole thing. I don't even know it. You have to watch it. You have to. Did you like it? You didn't like it? I mean I thought it was okay, Okay, that's all right.

23:34 I'm not I didn't make it, so I'm not like personally offended. I'm trying to explain why, okay, why, I mean I think that it was okay. I was just confused. I don't like movies where I'm confused like the majority of the film, because I like to know what's going on. I like it when the characters are confused. But I know why, you know, so you don't like like mystery movies. I do. That's the thing, though, I do. I like knowing what the care characters know. Okay, you know, for sure the character didn't know what the heck was going on, and neither did I, you know. But I don't like being completely lost in a film or the characters because then I feel like. I'm lost, You're lost, what's happening?

24:15 Well, I don't even know how to describe this right now. I think that the beginning kind of made me a little bit bored. I didn't know what was going on. I was trying to figure it out, but. You know, it was just not really explaining anything, which I guess was the point, you know, to you know, build up to the end, which was that really made it okay, this is picking. Up, thank god. But overall, I mean it was it was okay. Okay, And see, I loved it. I love not knowing because I love like twists and turns and stuff, so especially if the characters don't know, because I'm like, yeah, like, as long at now, I'm gonna give this a caviat caveat that, as long as the director and writer and all knows what's going on, like if they're just winging it and it doesn't tie in at the end, you feel like, screw that, you just wasted my time in life.

25:13 But as long as you they have a real plan where it all ties to get together, I'm good. So I was like on the edge of my seat the whole time. Really loved it. Yeah, yeah, I really really loved it. The end I thought it was so insane. That's why I wanted you to watch it. Yeah, And since this episode isn't it about that? I don't want to give any spoilers, but the film at the end, I'm like, what what did I just watch? Yeah? I mean it's I loved it, but I'm like, that was not so And the performances, especially Glenn Close and I've been practicing that. By the way, I won't say it, but say it. No, I don't even don't even do a voice. You don't like the voice.

25:57 Oh, I don't like any of the voices and smell No. There Tickle Terry and we don't want to bring that back. To know. The return of Pickle Terry Deliverance. Could you imagine? Wait, what is that? What does that impression kind of sound like? Yeah? No, Now I'm gonna think about it so differently. Oh, my god. Yeah, oh my god. Yes, there are so many ways that could go, but we're nice, nice, god fearing people, so we won't. We won't go there anyway.

26:42 So yeah, that was the Deliverance. I highly recommend you watch it if you have not. If you have, if you're on the iHeart Radio app, you can use the talk back button and it sends a voicemail right to me and we may just play your talkback right here on the show. If you're not on the iHeartRadio app, which you should be, you can go to podcast dot popcultureweekly dot com and there's a button there that you can send in a voicemail and let me know what you think. I want to know what you think about the Deliverance. All right, So we're gonna take a quick break, and when we get back, we're going to dive right in to Friday the thirteenth, the Franchise. All right, welcome back, Thank you for hanging out with us, and thank you for supporting our sponsors who help make Pop Culture Weekly possible each and every week. Now is our feature presentation, hit it all right? Our feature presentation is Friday the thirteenth, The Franchise. You and I are huge Friday the thirteenth fans, huge Jason Voorhees fan.

28:01 Yes, I love everything about this franchise. Me too, Like there is so let's get let's get into some interesting things. Okay, okay. So did you know that the producer and director Sean Cunningham the of Friday thirteenth, the original one, his inspiration was actually Halloween, the film Halloween. Yes you did? I did know that. I see you why? Okay. So there's a YouTuber called dead Meat Oh yeah, yeah, and I watch his videos all the time after I watch a movie, and he has a whole entire Friday thirteenth franchise, so like he has a whole like a video series of the Friday thirteenth franchise, and he actually explains backstory of the movie. And that's how I found out because there's a lot of Halloween references in the in the Friday movies, you know. And when I piece it all together, like when I watch Halloween and then I want to watch Friday, I saw them.

28:55 I'm gonna have to watch on Friday the thirteenth. Yeah, it's very informative. Yeah, because I don't pick up things like that. Yeah, me either. So I have to watch someone who's essentially like an expert, like explain it, and once I see it, and once I hear it, I piece it together, like, oh, you know what that is? Yeah, that makes sense. It's funny that you say that because I'm the same way. Like I watched this one film and I talked to some friends in LA that are film critics. They were like, I loved how the color red represented power and then blue represented blah blah blah. And I'm like, what, okay, that is me when it comes to design.

29:37 Not movies. You recognize that or don't. Yes, I do recognize that, like the design aspects like the colors, the fonts, the music. I recognize that, but not the references or not the inspirations that come from other movies. Or even not even not even other movies. Like so, using the same example that I'm talking about, they were like, so, what was the movie mother? Anyway? After talking to my friend, you know, my friends that are film critics, they're like, I love how she represented Eve and he represented Adam and blah blah. I'm like what they were like, you didn't get that? And it was like the Garden of Eden, and I'm like no, there was no garden. And they were like, yeah, no, it's like philosophical and I'm.

30:19 Like, like references. Representing okay, Like she was like she represented Eve and the male character represented Adam and their house represented the Garden of Eden, and I'm like, I didn't get any of that. Yeah, I don't think I did those things. Yeah, I'm like, what, like I just thought it was about a haunted house. What. So, Yeah, I'm an idiot apparently when it comes to that stuff. So I'm glad to know somebody else is like that. Yeah for sure. But anyway, back to Friday the thirteenth, So did you know that he actually started advertising it before he even had the financing to make it. He was so sure that this was going to be make.

31:00 I didn't know that part. Yeah, that's interesting. And it was originally called Long Night at Camp Blood. Yes, I did know that, Yeah, which is pretty interesting. And did you know that almost all of it was filmed in Pennsylvania? Yes? I didn't know that. So the camp at the camp in the films, which is Camp Crystal Lake Camp thank you, Oh my god, campus, is actually in real life called Camp Nobi Bosco. And so I went there no, you're going there. I already did, okay, because I'm going there this October. It's so much fun. You go to see all like where they filmed differences. It's so much and you can take pictures doing Yes, it's awesome. But yeah, so just those were just some fun things. There's been twelve Friday the thirteenth or Friday thirteenth related movies. Jason Voorhis has killed over one hundred and fifty people in them, which is wild. But in Friday the third thirteenth and Friday the thirteenth A New Beginning, Jason Vorhees doesn't kill anybody. Yes, that's pretty wild. A lot of people don't realize that that Jason isn't the villain in Friday the thirteenth, you know what I mean. I think there's a misconception with a lot of people. I don't know if it's just been so long since they've seen them, or they're mixing them all together or whatever. But it's his mom.

32:24 Yeah, you know, missus Warhees. Exactly what do you so? Why do you love? What got you into Friday the thirteenth? Let me see, I think because it's such an old franchise and you know, I was born in two thousands, so I think that in the early two thousands, there's not really a lot of franchises that are as original as this or are. Similar in this way. I think that all the iconic serial killers wait, no serial killers, Well, yeah, I guess yeah, I guess all the iconic serial killers in horror film are all from the eighties and the nineties, like Freddy Krueger, Jason Michael, ghost Face.

33:08 Yeah. And we don't really have Chuck Chucky. Yeah, we don't really have any prominent serial killers and horror franchises past two thousands that are really well known art. The clown, No, have you seen the terrifier? Oh wait, okay, yeah, yeah. But but your point, to your point, it's rare. It's rare. It's really rare. And whenever people, you know, talk about Halloween, or whenever you hear the word Halloween, and whenever you see, you know, going to a spirit, it's always the main og killers that I just aw that I just said, yeah, you know, and to this day there's still representing this whole entire.

33:48 I guess holiday. Yeah, and there's so old yeah, but they're so iconic. Yes, And I know that Jason, in my opinion, is probably one of the most iconic because his franchise is massively long. Yeah, and it has such good storytelling and the kills are just from where they took place back in their day, were very good in my opinion, and it's just yes, you know, the acting can be a little questionable or some scenes may be a little weird. But that's just the eighties. That's the whole vibe of the eighties. So it's like it just makes it very different because I feel like we're not going to be able to have that, you know, authenticity from the eighties because we're in twenty twenty four, right, So that's why I like it.

34:32 Yeah, what when did you first watch. I first watched it in twenty twenty one. Okay, so relatively recently, yes, And was it like you were just like, oh, let's put this on her. Okay, no, my friend. Okay, So in the summer of twenty twenty one, my friend who's a massive film nerd, she loves all horror films and everything, and we made it a goal to get me to watch films that I had ever seen before. And if you know me, you know that I barely you have seen any films. So she made this whole entire list of all the films that she wanted me to watch, and Friday Franchise was on there. So when I first watched A Friday the Thirteenth franchise, I'm not gonna lie to you. I hated it. I hated it.

35:12 It was so boring to me. I didn't understand what was happening. And then when I found out that Missus Worhees was the killer in the end, I was I felt stupid because I thought it was Jason the whole time, and I felt duped, and you know, the movie just didn't appeal to me. It wasn't until, you know, I guess a year later that I rewatched it. And I don't know what clicked. I don't know what changed. I don't know if I went through something. I don't know what happened. But I rewatched them and I was thinking to myself, why am I such a hater? These are actually kind of good, you know, Like, I don't understand what made me change my mind so quick. Maybe it was just when I watched him the first time.

35:57 Maybe I just was not interested. But after rewatching them and really getting into the storyline. It was like, whoa, this is so cool. And plus you don't think about how Jason is. You know, he's a kid at heart, you know, which is wild to me. You know that. He's like kind of stuck emotionally, yes. And there's not really a lot of killers like that who are like children at heart, and that was just so interesting to see a like this grown man that has the mind of a child doing these heinous acts, you know. So that was something that was clearly different to me. And it's just the storyline, like I said, which is so great.

36:43 I sorry, I don't know whatever. I love that for you. I mean that sounds so sarcastic, but I didn't. I didn't mean it like that. I love that like you watch it and was like whatever, and then like rediscovered it and was like, oh, I was good. Yeah. So I was a kid was not allowed to watch horror movies, but I believe that I was at a friend's house and we ended up watching it. And one it's like for it's kind of like that forbidden thing, like you know, my mom will kill me if you know I'm watching. So I'm like ooh, And then I was like, oh, this is scary, you know what I mean. And then as I got old enough to watch them later and became like a huge horror fan, I like really appreciated.

37:34 First of all, the kills are very creative, you know, and I love how you know, with the eighties, it wasn't like we have you know, visual effects like we do today. It's like a lot of those kills and effects were practical. Like I was reading that a lot of the guts and all that stuff was made in the kitchen by the staff at the camp, so like they were like baking like brains or whatever. That's crazy. Yeah, So like they were literally like making everything by hand, which is like pretty cool. You don't see that no more? No, yeah, I mean now it's like, oh, you don't even have a knife, They like digitally put it in your hand, you know what I mean. It's like all kind of fake. So I love that that. It kind of has that spirit of like we're small, like we're small filmmakers, but we're going to make the movie we want to make, and if we have to make it by hand, we'll do it. Like I love that. And then it's that, like you said, it's that kind of like stuck in it's like the the the opposite, meaning like you have this horrible killing machine but this innocent, like childlike mentality. And then you think about the backstory where it's like tragic and he's like stuck like a child forever, you know, and and everything that happened to him, like the bullying and all that, and it's like, I

39:08 just think it makes for a really interesting like ghost Face. I love ghost Face, but we know nothing about him. Oh yeah until the end where they do the whole spiel of. Why they're exactly and then there's like the next movie there's another ghost Face, so it's like different. Yeah, So like you know, he has I think, a really interesting, rich backstory, you know, which is cool to me. And so even the bad Friday the Thirteenth movies, I still love, like Friday the Thirteenth Part three, the three D one, that one. I mean, I love it, But is it a great movie. No, But it's still a movie I love and I enjoy watching it. Like didn't win any Oscars, you know what I mean, but like it wasn't trying to just trying to be right The Thirteenth Part three.

40:02 And it contributes to the storyline exactly. That's such an iconic movie because when you think about it, that's when three D effects were starting to pop off in the film industry. That was one movie where you can really tell based off all their effects. And also that's the movie where he gets his hockey mask. Yes, yeah, part three, everybody. That's another thing people don't realize. He wasn't even the killer in part one and part two he wore a bag oah, yeah, he was a sack. Yeah, they had one eye. Yeah. Part three is the one where he gets the mask, the iconic hockey mask. And that's the other thing. His mat like ghost Face has such a unique mask. I mean now obviously you can buy it at Walmart, but like but like it's like besides ghost Face, it's just besides the costume. It's like very unique. Yes, Freddy Krueger has this like deformed you know, that's just like a mask that you could like get at any you know, sporting goods store. Like, you know, it's like such a common thing. Yeah, then to make it so menacing is like creepy. I think, you know, it just adds to everything.

41:07 It's interesting to me that Friday the Thirteenth Part one came out in eighty Part two came out in eighty one. Part three came out in eighty two. Then they skipped a year, and then Part four, which was supposed to be the final chapter, came out in eighty four. Then eighty five eighty six they released one, skipped, eighty seven, then eighty eight eighty nine they released one, then ninety one ninety two skipped, and then the Final Friday came out in ninety three, which of course was not the Final Friday. Then Jason X, then Freddy Versus Jason, then Friday the thirteenth, the kind of reboot slash reimagining. Yeah, that one, which came out in two thousand and nine.

41:48 But that's the last film we've had in the franchise. So what was that nine nineteen, That was like fifteen years ago. Yeah, we're way overdue. Yes, and he's still iconic, yes, which is insane. It is. It just tells you, like the legacy of my God, that's just like shows you the legacy of the character, you know what I mean. And and by the way, can we talk about Pamela Varies missus Vorhis Yes, she is crazy and and the actor actress Betsy Palmer, who apparently was like a very big, well known Broadway actress, Like seriously, she took her role like super serious and like wanted it to be like dramatic and real and rich and all. And I feel like that really helped, because she really holds that movie together, like playing this not tragic mother, but grieving mother that's like, I will do anything to avenge my child.

42:56 Yeah. And if you can tell that she's a little bit mentally too, because remember when she was mimicking his voice. Yeah, so she has some insane trauma that she hasn't sorted out obviously, right that. I guess killing these teenagers is helping her. In a way. Yeah, I mean, and so I really think that she without Betsy Palmer being such a strong actress in that film, I don't think it would have the I don't think we'd know Friday the Thirteenth as we do today, like the entire franchise, you know. I think she was so vital to that first film. And then it's kind of risky to go from part one where the killer is missus Voorhees, to them part two where it's her son, because that made no sense, right, I mean, like it was risky to be like, Amanda, you're the killer in the first one and it was a big hit, and blah blah blah. Oh well, now John, You're going to be the killer in the second, you know what I mean? Like, it's like kind of risky because Halloween every film was Michael Myers and to go from like, hey we have this big hit, let's completely get a different killer and not you know, magically bring her back or resuscitator or something. I don't know. I think without her it would not have gone the way that it did, so thank god for that. Also, did you know that the the music that yes comes from her line in the film?

44:29 Her line? Okay, So the composer, Harry Manfordini he was looking for like some kind of cool sound that he could put in the film whenever the killer was there. So he heard missus Vorhees when she was imitating Jason going kill her mommy. You know. Yes, he decided to use that. So he took the two syllables from that line of dialogue and then he spoke them himself and then made that iconic sound that was what that's insane. So it's the cook cook cuss from the kill her. Yeah, and the it's from Mommy, Oh my goodness. So whenever you hear the Killer, it's wait, why is that so creative? Isn't that super good?

45:21 People don't do that kind of stuff nowadays. Now they'd be like on the keyboard and PLoP it in there. You know, that is so creative. So that's why like the old film, Yeah, because back in the day, you didn't have this technology to kind of like cut your way through stuff, how to actually. Think about it exactly. Yeah, so interesting, and we still could do that today, but it's like oftentimes we don't, you know what I mean, Like it's easier just to get on a computer and have something whipped up. Then you'd be like, wait a second, let me think about the coolest way to do that. Let's digest this exactly. Yeah. So so I love love that. I love it. But anyway, yeah, so I love that part of it. That that because to me, that sound is so iconic, you know what I mean. I mean, you here it a million times in the movie. What is your favorite Friday the Thirteenth film?

46:21 It's probably the final chapter. Okay. I do really like the final chapter, Okay, where they introduce Tommy. Yeah. That move was so good. Yeah, and it was essentially supposed to. And I love how it picks up immediately after part three. Yea like it, like just it's not like, oh, a year later or anything. It's like NOE. Part three ends at part four starts. Yeah. Yeah, I love that, and I love how they returned to kill the Crystal Lake in that one. Tommy is awesome. He's a great character. I like the movie that have him as like the main character, like those three movies and the franchise.

47:05 I just thought that his his character was just so interesting. Yeah. In the movie, like you see him and you also see him grow up. You see him as a little child, and then you see him as like an adult and how he's like going through this trauma that he has, and it's just so interesting because you really don't see that because all of the characters in Friday thirteenth are killed by Jason or his mom, you know, and it's like you don't really see a character development go except for time. Yeah, which was so interesting. Yeah, it is interesting. And that, of course was Corey Feldman who played Tommy. Who is he's Corey Feldman. I don't know how else to describe him.

47:46 But so I think the original is probably my first one, just because it kind of started it all. I also think Jason takes Manhattan, which was which was what was it? Eight? Part eight? Yeah? I also think that was interesting because it's like you get away from the small town thing. I feel like, I mean, people can correct me if I'm wrong, use the talkback button on the iHeart app. But I feel like there wasn't really a slasher in a big city before that movie, you know what I mean.

48:28 Like Halloween was always in hadd In Town or whatever, and like all you know, Texas, Chainsaw Masacre was like in Texas. It was like you never saw a slasher movie that had the killer in a big city like that, very public. Yeah open. So now of course we had the latest scream film, such a good Yeah, I love this news Screams. But that took place, but like, excuse me, I feel like that wouldn't have happened without thirteenth Part eight, Jason takes Manhattan, you know what I mean? So I think that one was cool. Jason X, I haven't seen it.

49:10 Wait is that when he's in space? Yeah? Okay, I hate it. Yeah, I haven't seen it, you know, since probably whenever it came out or whenever I came on DVD or something. Yeah, I never even finished it. I'm not even gonna lie to you. Yeah, I feel like I should probably give it a rewatch, just to like see as an adult, like what it's like. But I remember thinking it was just dumb. It was stupid. Yeah, it made no sense. It was just like a excuse to be like, let's do Friday the thirteenth in space, you know what I mean? Which I don't know. You know, I could commend the Friday franchise for trying new things, ye, getting new killers, like introducing a new main character and watching their development, doing Jason Takes Manhattan.

49:58 Those are all new things. Yeah, but Space, Yeah, that there is no correlation. With that at all, you know. And it just made no sense. And I don't even understand. I don't even know how that even got approved. Like that's just insane to me. So apparently Todd Farmer, who is the who's the writer of Jason x Jason ten whatever you want to call it, He suggested to New Line Cinema, who was making it, that the only direction left for the series because they had done everything else was to send them into space.

50:40 And it was released in two thousand and two, and it what made or I'm sorry. It was made on a budget of fourteen million dollars and it grossed seventeen million dollars, so it didn't even break even in theaters. And it is essentially for like kind of solo films at the time killed the franchise, you know what I mean, Because then after that we got Freddy Versus Jason, which I love, and then we got seven years after Jason X, we got Friday the Thirteenth kind of the rebootish thing in two thousand and nine, so and then we haven't had anything since, which sucks so bad. I've now. Oh, by the way, did you know that there was a Friday the Thirteenth series? Yes?

51:31 I did the TV show? Yes? Did you ever watch it? No? I haven't, so it has it ran for three seasons. It has nothing to do with the Friday Thirteenth franchise. It's about these two cousins who like inherit an antique store, and then after they sell all of the antiques off, they find out that all the items were haunted or whatever. Oh wow, yeah, so then they like work together to recover the things they sold and bring them back to like a secret vault where they won't hurt anybody. Okay, that kind of sounds interesting. It is, but it has nothing. So originally it was going to be called The Thirteenth Hour, so they changed the title to Friday the Thirteenth the Series to kind of have a built in audience for the show.

52:29 Oh that has nothing to do with the franchise. Even though it has nothing to do with it at all, is kind of Yeah, no character that has ever been in a Friday the Thirteenth film appears in Friday the Thirteenth the series, which is just strange. But you know, that's like like having a Lion King movie the series and it being about like that, you know, people lawyers in a court or something. You know, just be like, well, the lion kid was popular, so let's make this. It's just like dumb. So anyway, they must have been desperate, yeah or something.

53:10 It was the same studio that made the films that made the TV show, so I mean like they obviously could, but it just to me, it just didn't make sense. Yeah, or doesn't make sense. But I feel like I feel like I know I watched like the first season, and I feel like it was pretty like good for its own thing, you know what I mean, Like it was interesting. So so yeah, there's that, and then of course there's been all kinds of things like book tie ins and video games. There was rumors of a Freddy versus Jason two, yeah, which would have been awesome. Of course, the ending of Freddy Versus Jason hinted that there was gonna be one, and then it's never came come, but there is apparently a in production right now. There is a prequel coming to Peacock called Crystal Lake. So it was originally set to be written by Brian Fuller and Victor Miller, who was involved with the franchise from the beginning. And A twenty four, which is one of my favorite film studios, like all their movies are so good, was also going to be involved. And then Adrianne King, who was in a couple of the first films, was going to come back in the series. It was going to be she

54:43 portrayed Alice in the Yes thirteenth one, the original Yeah, and. Which she was going to come back as her character. They didn't say because her character died exactly second. Well, this was a prequel too, so she could have been her she would have be like forty years older, so I don't Yeah, that's kind of weird. Yeah, so maybe it was like going to be her mom or you know. But now A twenty four has left the series, which sucks because I love A twenty four okay, and the studio has decided to take Crystal Lake in a different direction. So now, as of last month, they universal announced that Brad Caleb Kane is going to be taking over as the showrunner, writer, director, and he's done. He's interesting choice to me because like his resume is like, actually he did Aladdin Singing Voice and the Aladdin movies, the Disney Aladdin movies. He has written though, Crash, that show, Fringe, which is really good, Tokyo Wece, which was a series couple of years ago. That's pretty cool. So I'm a little I'm concerned that it's had all of these problems

56:13 and they still didn't even have a cast and it's been in development for what since twenty twenty two they announced, Oh that was coming, that's been a while. Yeah, So I mean we're already two years past when they announced it, and they've now had a studio leave, the showrunner leave, still no cast, and they're in pre production starting over again. So I don't know what's going to happen with that, but I was really excited when I heard the original concept. That would be awesome. And then in January of twenty twenty three, Jeff Locker, who's a writer, said that was Sean S. Cunningham, who was the son of the original writer, pitched a new Friday the Thirteenth reboot that would also be an alternate direct sequel to the original film. So kind of like, do you know the new Halloween movies, like from a few years ago, Rob, No, No, the newer ones new from like I think the last one came out Halloween Halloween and Halloween Kills Hallow. Oh yeah, yeah, so that like those take place directly after the original film and skip everything else. This would be kind of the same thing. So it would be a sequel slash reboot of the franch It would be a reboot of the franchise, but it would also serve as a sequel to the first one and ignore all the ones that came after that. Oh that's interesting. I think that would

57:46 be really interesting. Okay, yeah, Calena that Halloween has which is a hour and. It has the other stuff. Yeah. Yeah, but you can. Watch Halloween, Halloween, Halloween Kills, and Halloween ends and be fine. Exactly. That's interesting. Yeah, So it would get rid of things like Jason X and you know, and some cool things. I kind of like the other one, I. Know, but maybe they would take some of those good parts and update them, you know what I mean. So as of May so on, Cunningham is saying that it'll be at least three years till it comes out. So we're looking at twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven. Why is everything taking so long for Jason? He's such a complicated character for these people, I.

58:29 Know, the whole A lot of it came down to they were fighting the original people because like the original film Friday the Thirteenth was released by Paramount I believe, and then a bunch of the sequels were released by a different studio, Like they sold the rights but kept the rights for the films they had already made. So then it became like a lawsuit about well, who really owns it? Who really owns the character and like all this stuff. So there's been all these like legal battles where it's just like, guys, do you guys want to make money or not? Like why didn't you work it out? Because right now we are making zero dollars. Yeah. I've read a little bit about that kind of stuff because my friend who's the film critic or whatever, she was talking about this game that she loved, Yes, and she's so bitter about they killed it.

59:20 Yeah, they killed it. And I've never really understood it. I never understood like what happened with this game? You know, and she's very passionate about it, yeah, because she said it was really fun. Yeah, and you could play like the campers or you could play Jason like you could, like, yeah. It was really and you can't play it anymore. It not officially it's been killed and support has been pulled and all that. Apparently people have found ways, but it's like super complicated and all that. But was it killed because of copyright issues? Yes? It was legal issues that killed it, Yeah, which is like easy. Do you guys want to make money on this or not? You know what I mean? Like it just seems stupid to me.

1:00:01 Yeah, And I feel like whenever I look up why Jason hasn't returned. I get so many articles about legal issues, and I'm like, I don't really want to read all this. I just I don't know what's going on. I just know that it's a legal issue, but I don't know the backstory. I don't know the details of it. You want l R, Yeah, I want to know what. I just all I want to see is this skuy in a hockey mass just chopping up kids. Teenagers. Let me just say that, not kids teenagers. I love kids. I just want to I just want to listen, you know what. I just want to see this guy commit and murders. You know, whoever gets it his way at this point is whoever gonna go? But but no, I love kids and Jason X doesn't kill kids, right, he doesn't.

1:00:48 That was discovered in the movie with that telekinetic girl. Yeah, yeah, that was a good one. I liked that one too. And he doesn't he doesn't kill kids, what I thought was kind of nice. Okay, Jason has a soft spot for children, but it makes sense given what happened to him as a child, exactly which you know when I first because I really, okay, listen, Jason can be unpredictable sometimes so When I first saw the scene of him walking into that cabin filled with children, I was thinking, Oh my god, what is he going to do? And when he was getting closer and the music was playing, I was like, Oh my god. Don't tell me. And when you know, the little girl opened her eyes and he was gone. I was like, Oh, that's kind of cute.

1:01:31 Okay, that's kind of cute. All the deformed serial killers so cute. Yeah. I don't even does Michael kill kids? I think he does. I think, yeah, I think in the. But he doesn't kill babies. Because I remembered there was one scene where he walked by a crib and the baby was crying and he just passed it. That's the scene I'm thinking of. But didn't he pass it and the baby stopped crying, which means he killed him or I imagine. No, I don't think he did kill him. The baby guys, oh all right, But I think he does kill kids. I think he does, I. Think, but not babies, Like when does Michael deem you know the appropriate age.

1:02:15 I don't know, like toddlers or what if it's an ugly kid? Well, him and Michael or Jason and Michael are gonna have issues. But you know, baby's ugly. That's so mean, that's sick. Oh my god. But we do not condone any of. That, of course. That's the that's the fun thing about horror for me is like I can get scared about this stuff but know that it's safe. It's not really happening, right, So like oh my god, he did that, or oh my god, that's crazy, or wow, look at that creative kill, but knowing that that's not really happening, right, you know what I mean? Yeah, So any final thoughts on the Friday thirteenth franchise.

1:03:03 I just wish they will come out another movie, yes, for a series or a game something. I need something, Yeah, you know, yeah, we need content. Content creators. Come on, this is a storied, beloved franchise and you haven't had something come out since what do we say, two thousand and nine, fifteen years. That's ridiculous. Which the remake wasn't even that good right in my opinion, because I feel like when I first watched it, Jason said her running within the first five minutes, right, and I was like, oh my god, he's on steroids. Yeah, that was like he was Jason. No for me. It was like an NFL one back, like Jason's there like holling, and I was like, whoa.

1:03:47 This man is on something. That was such a shock to me that he started off with him being so athletic. Right, yeah, doing like I was like, oh my god, okay. He's doing I guess like push ups in the off season. No, for real, he was just so built. Yeah. I was like, Okay, it's hard to imagine as someone who probably eats like dead animals, you know, and berries and berries. You're so bilt Okay, maybe genetics. Oh no, Pamela, where he's what were you genetics? I don't know. All right, So Amanda's final thoughts are more content. My final thoughts are more content. We need more Friday the thirteenth com tent. Yes, I can't wait to hear what you have to say. Please use the talkback app on the iHeart Radio app. I mean use the talkback button on the iHeart Radio app. Email me, tweet whatever it is we want to feature you on the show and reach out. Let me know your thoughts on the Friday the thirteenth franchise. What are your favorites?

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