Ultimate Home Theater Guide; Lil Jon, Dakota Fanning, Sarah Snook, Jason Clarke

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In this episode of pop Culture Weekly, I've got your

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ultimate guide to home theaters with the great people from

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Clips and Ankio and Little John and Sarah Snook and

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so much more.

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Let's go.

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Welcome to pop Culture Weekly with Kyle McMahon from iHeartRadio,

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your pop culture news, views, reviews and celebrity interviews on

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all the movies, TV, music, and pop culture u CRABE Weekly.

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Here's Kyle McMahon.

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Nick.

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Nickana No, Hello, Welcome to pop Culture Weekly with Kyle McMahon.

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I of course am Kyle McMahon, and.

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This is pop Culture Weekly, the show where I talk

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to your favorite actors and musicians and filmmakers and occasionally myself,

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you know, because therapy is expensive.

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Today's episode is stacked. And when I say.

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Stacked, I mean the only thing with more levels than

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today's guest lineup is the number of movies I have

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on my watch list for work. But before we dive

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into that, we're talking home theater. Yes, the religion, the lifestyle,

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and the occasional money pit that has eaten my savings

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one beautifully immersive upgrade at a time. So if you

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know me by now, and of course you absolutely do,

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because you've been with me for years. You know, my

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home theater journey has been a saga like Lord of

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the Rings Extended edition saga like should this man be stopped?

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Saga?

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It's so overwhelming. And you know, I started with the

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soundbar cute like it was fine. It made noises that

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you know came from the movie. But then one day

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I was like, Kyle, do you deserve better? And the

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answer was obviously a resounding yes, because you know, self

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care is important. So enter my friends at Clips and

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on Kio, the dynamic duo of Holy app Why does

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my living room sound like a freaking movie theater? Like

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clip speakers literally legit for any budget. They have entry

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level systems, high end systems. They even do like really

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expensive giant movie theater chain system so like they've got

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it all. You want something basic, They've got ya. You

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want something that rattles your soul and your neighbor's dishes,

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They've got that too. And on Kyo receivers like, look,

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if you want your system to actually work the way

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that Dolby intended instead of sounding like a microwave having

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an identity crisis, on Kyo is where it's at. And

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I've got a whole Ultimate Guide to Home Theater blog

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post which is linked in the show notes, so make

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sure you check out that for like your actual written

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guide that you can go a print out or whatever.

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But I'm talking like crystal clear audio, beefy power, an

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intuitive setup, and more options than a freaking cheesecake factory menu.

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And now, due to my friends at CLIPS and on

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Kio and their amazing guidance and their wonderful help, my

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current system is seven point two point four because I

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believe in God and they'll be at most. And today

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we've got someone who knows this stuff on an expert level.

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So when you're like, what was he talking about seven

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point two point four, I didn't know either until I

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talked with Marcus. So we're gonna kick things off with

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Marcus Buckler, who this guy understands CLIPS and on Kio

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way better than like anybody in the business. This man

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is a genius with home theater systems with you know,

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uh audio and audio equipment.

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So let's talk with him. The training manager for the

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Americas at clips and on Kio and Premium Audio. Do

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you want to know only Marcus Buler So I am.

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Really excited to talk to Marcus Buckler, training manager at

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Premium Audio Company, and we're gonna be talking all about

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home theaters and you know how that plays, how that

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can play or does play into our lives. How are you, Marcus,

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I'm doing well, awesome. Thank you so much for joining me.

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I really appreciate it.

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So give me a little bit problem happy to be here.

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Thank you.

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So, first of all, you know, I've been exploring this

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whole ultimate guye to home theaters, you know, the best

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of the best and the different levels that there are.

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As I started learning about this, you know, I have

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a show about pop culture where I interview celebrities and

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all about their movies or their albums or whatever. You know,

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it struck me that I didn't realize how wide the

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spectrum of home theaters are. Where you could be in

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a apartment and have a home theater system, or you

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could be in a mansion and have your own dedicated,

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you know, home theater room. Tell me a little bit

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about that and how well, first of all, how did

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you get into this?

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Oh man, let's see. So I started out working for

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a big box retailer just in the wintertime, right before holiday,

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part time job. I didn't know anything about home theater.

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My college roommate talked me into it, so I tried

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it out. I learned about first like the different types

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of TVs, and then I got in like this audio

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room space where they sold like really high end audio stuff.

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And I remember the first demo I heard was.

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An Eric Clapton song on a big pair of Martin

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Logan speakers, and I was like, WHOA, I.

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Like most people, it's if you've never heard your favorite

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song or just a song that like emotionally moves you

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on a big Hi Fi system. I mean, it's life changing.

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It's just like the first time you drink a good

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glass of red wine, right you can't go back because

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that's it was amazing. Or a fast car you don't

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your chest on a fast car until you experience it,

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and then you're like, oh my gosh, and you chase

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that forever. Hi Fi is no different. It's it's a

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never ending rabbit hole where you can go from I

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mean you can go from literally millions of dollars. I've

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seen systems in the hundreds of thousands that shows. I

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was at Munich this year, there's a million dollar system there.

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But again for a listener, don't let it intimidate you.

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One of my favorite things when I'm doing a training,

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like as I grew through my journey and Hi Fi

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and retail, I remember today's customer is different than like

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we were.

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I'm gonna date.

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Myself, but wherehen we were kids, Like my dad gave

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me a small two channel system, you know, like a

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boombox from a pizza place we had.

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I put in my room.

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then I hunted around the house for more speakers. I

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plugged it all in. It eventually blew up. But like

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today's customer, they don't really get that right. Like most

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of them, their first audio experience is these little white

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pods that come with a cell phone from a fruit company, right,

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that you put in your ear and if I want

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to listen better, I get the pro version of those pods, right,

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And that's that's awesome audio to me, and it is

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very very good. But as you grow into like spatial audio,

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which means like speakers in front of you a room

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that sounds great and then you know your favorite you're

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playing your video game, you're watching TV, a movie, or

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listening to some vinyl. You know, like it's a it's

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a life changing experience. Don't don't let it intimidate you,

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because you can start small and grow into these things.

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And so that's kind of like my journey as I

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started small box or big box store, became a manager

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that I was a brand manager for a company called

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Magnolia Home Theater, which I trained, so I trained associates

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across the southeast US. I'm out of Atlanta, and then

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eventually my journey took me to a manufacturer, and I've

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worked for I've actually worked for quite a few manufacturers

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most of the time, because you work for one and

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then they get bought by a bigger company and they

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add more brands to you. And then a couple of

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years ago I landed here at Premium Audio Company with

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just it's a great place because we have the legendary

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clips brand, and then they bought Ankio, so now we

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have two. We have an amplifier brand and we've got

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our passive speaker brand. Both have been around since the

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same year. They both started in nineteen forty six. So

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that's a little bit of my journey. But also a

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little bit of my training history with people like, don't

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be intimidated by this stuff. It's a it's a journey,

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so start small, grow into it.

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There's a lot of options.

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So for somebody, you know, because we have listeners and

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viewers and readers from all you know, walks of life,

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all budgets. If I'm you know what, what is interesting

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for me? How I got interested in this? Uh was

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I bought a house and I've obviously always.

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And my goal was when I bought a house, I

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wanted a home theater, dedicated home theater room. So h So,

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I finally got my first house three years ago or so,

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and I started, you know, really thinking about it because

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I was at a friend's house that had this awesome system,

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and I was like, I'm hearing things that I didn't

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even hear in the movie theater, you know, and it

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really just envelops you in the sound, which then envelops

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you in the movie, you know. And so for me,

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somebody that's such a huge movie buff, I'm like, I

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that's what I want. But then I started getting overwhelmed

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with I'm like, oh my god, what is that? What

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is that there's you know, five point there's seven point

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there's seven point one, seven point two. Like you know,

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I got ridiculously overwhelmed, and I'm like, Okay, I don't

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even know where to start, you know, do I start

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with the budget?

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Do I start with a the space I have? Where

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would somebody start?

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So it's important to know, like how it all works,

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because like movie theaters clips, we do movie theaters.

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I think we're in.

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You can find us in I think half the movie

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theaters in the US and a quarter worldwide. Wow, that's

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kind of a hard space. There's a lot of people,

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a lot of speakers. When you're thinking about your home,

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it's about you most of the time.

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That is a couch.

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So in that listening position, what I want to make

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sure I have is if I'm listening to music, all

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music is recorded in at least two chances, So you

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want a left and right speaker, and you want to

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invest some money into those speakers because you're probably going

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to have them for a really long time. And then

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the most important speaker when it comes to watching video

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content like a movie or a TV show, is your

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center channel. It's all of your dialogue. And that dialogue

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was recorded to come out of a center channel speaker.

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amount of money, depending on your budget, for a left

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and right and then a matching center and then when

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it comes to surround sounds one you can add those later.

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Three channel system upfront and then add surrounds as your

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budget goes. But only about twenty percent of the audio

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is going to come from the surrounds, right, because it's

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only firing when something has happened in the background, that

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helicopter flies overhead or the car crash. You know, it's

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it's not all of the audioce So they don't have

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to have four giant towers and a center channel or

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you know, six giant towers around you. You can get

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away with smaller speakers for your surrounds.

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And there are different price points for these, right, Like,

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I don't need to save fifty thousand dollars for those

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three you know, the left and right and center. I

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can invest in a decent system. And this is more

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of a question. Can I invest in a decent system

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with a smaller budget.

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One hundred percent?

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One hundred percent And I'll tell you this when you

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start on that let's just just for argument high five.

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So I'm listening to music and I'm trying to get

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high resolution. I'm trying it the most detail I can.

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And you go to shows or stores and you experience

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these products you're going to you just get blown away

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by how good it gets as you go up and

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if you've been doing it for a long time. What

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impresses me these days is playing those entry level price

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point systems and just being wowed by how much how

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much value you get out of these products, Like they

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can play loud, there's good detail, you know, and you

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can spend You can spend one thousand dollars or a

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couple thousand dollars and still get a really good experience.

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So any budget can give you home theater. Not to mention,

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there are sound bars, and we make some sound bars

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these days that do Dolby at most right. They have

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upward firing drivers. The subuffers are built in. They decode

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anything you throw at it and virtualize the sound so

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you can get away with We've got a sound bar

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for three hundred and fifty bucks that'll knock your socks

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off and it takes up no real estate. Really, it's

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like two feet and you can add wireless surrounds to it.

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You can add you can add a couple of wireless

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subs for I like to say, a couple more ugga dugas,

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like people love base. Yeah, so sublifers are definitely going

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to make an impact.

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But yeah you can.

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You can have a system for one thousand bucks.

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You can have a system for two thousand and as

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you grow, you know that that curve is that rate

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of diminishing returns, right like you can spend fifty thousand dollars,

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you know, at that end of your audio journey and

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be like, yeah, you know that speaker wire gave me

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just that little nuance, you know, like I just didn't

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hear that before and now you know it brought it

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to life for me. Or that that cartridge on my turntable.

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You know, the amplifier, the receiver, especially you're a movie buff,

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the receiver processor makes a huge difference because it's it's

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it's the brain. It's decoding all of that information and

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sending it to your speakers so you can get away

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with a decent budget. One of my trails of thought,

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and this has just been my opinion. So the listeners

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can tell me I'm wrong. But if you build a budget,

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let's say five thousand dollars, I'm going to spend a

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good amount of money again on that front stage left

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right center, and whatever I spend on that front left

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right center, about half of that money I want to

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spend on my receiver, my AVR, because then I'm going

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to make sure I have plenty of power. Right, we

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have this there's this idea that I can overpower a speaker. Well,

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you can play the speaker too loud, like louder than

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it's supposed to play. But speakers love power, all of them.

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And the more power you have, the more effortlessly you're

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gonna get that sound at a lower volume that you

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normally would listen to. And it's I always use fast cars.

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I'm a car guy. But like if you put a

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four cylinder engine in a semi truck, you know you're

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gonna blow up that engine.

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It's just not gonna it's not gonna do what you

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want it to do.

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But if you put a big engine in a small car,

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barely touch the gas, it is just gonna effortlessly move.

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And that's what you want your system to do. You

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want it to be in that sweet spot, that happy

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place where it's got the right amount of power for

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that speaker and it gives me the volume that I

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want to listen to most of the time when speakers

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get damaged if they try to play into too loud

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and it didn't have enough power, and that's the problem.

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Okay, So, so are a lot at you there to

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go back on sound bars for a minute, because then

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I want to get into the processors or the receivers

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for sound bars.

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So and you guys offer a wide range of them.

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A sound bar and again I'm asking, but from what

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I from what I understand, it kind of has.

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I don't want to say, uh.

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Home theater in a box, but it kind of is

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that right, it's like a one and done sort of

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thing and it goes under your TV or above your

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TV or whatever. And does that does that give you surround?

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Like? What is that considered?

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Yeah, so if you start with just a sound bar,

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you're gonna want to have a sound bar. Again I'm biased,

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but whatever brand you're shopping for, make sure it comes

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from an audio company like that's what they do because

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the internals are going to be different. You know, there's

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a lot of a lot of companies make soundbars. They're everywhere,

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and they're all over the place with price points, and

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if you read the box, you know the box is

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going to tell you it's going to have a great experience.

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No matter what the brand, it's their job to sell

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it to you. But if you go to a sound

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bar with a company that that's all they do is audio,

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the internals are going to be better, So the virtualization

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of that sound.

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You know, I'm listening.

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I watched top Gun Maverick last night on the clips

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our flexus Core two hundred sound bar, and it has

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upward firing at most drivers, and when the planes go over,

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it's just a sound bar, no surrounds. You know, it

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sounds like they're above me. And then that sound bar

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has built in subwifers, so I don't have a subwulfer

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in the room, and I still get that full, like

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that thick, thick base that I need from a jet

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when it's taken off. If you go with sound bars

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that use a lot of plastic, really simple drivers and

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cheap internal components, it's just not going to do that.

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It's not going to play as loud for as long.

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It's not gonna last as long and the fidelity is

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not gonna it's just not gonna be there. Right, It's

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gonna be better than the TV sound probably, but it's

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not gonna be You're not getting your money's worth, really yeah.

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Yeah, And and by the way, that's why I want

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it to come to you guys, because you guys are

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the best of the best. So that's what I'm like,

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if I'm going to dive into this, and I want

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to bring you, know, the audience with me on this journey,

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Like we're going with the best. So and I love

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that you guys have different price points for different budgets

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and different needs.

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So is a.

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Soundbar like is that what somebody in an apartment should

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be using? Or can somebody in an apartment do a

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home theater?

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Like? What is this soundbar? Who is that best for soundbar?

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Really?

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Is best for budget?

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Okay?

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You know, if I'm trying to I'm trying to stay

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under that thousand dollars threshold. A good sound bar system

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that's maxed out, you will just be incredibly impressed with it.

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I mentioned are our Flexus system. That's something we did

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that is very unique. So that is a soundbar that

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is the first time that we used our on Kyo

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brand to build the internals, so it's got the same

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internals or same internal ish as our AVRs in a soundbar,

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so it's heavy and it decodes it really well. One

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of the things about soundbars to remember is a really

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good audio company or even a TV manufacturer that does audio,

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they can make a great audio system that plays loud,

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but it doesn't mean all the components work that well.

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I've seen some amazing big brands, big audio brands come

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out with soundbars and then the HDMI switching doesn't work

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that well, or you know something some third party piece

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they purchased didn't do what you wanted to do. So

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again I'm biased here, but our new soundbars with the

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Onchyo stuff inside is incredible, and you stay at that

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price point of six hundred dollars on the bar. If

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you want to add a sub, knock yourself out. Now

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you got a sub and a soundbar, you're at a

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thousand bucks for an apartment. That is a great solution.

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But I do a lot of trainings around a little

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bit globally, but mostly here in the US, and one

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of my favorite places to train is New York City,

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so I have an account in New York City. They

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do amazing stuff big foot traffic, and when I go

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there for a training, I bring smaller speakers that are

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not a soundbar. Remember if you were to take a bookshelf, So,

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for example, you've got reference bookshelves, right, so take your

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reference bookshelves, turn them on their side next to the

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center channel, but the other one on side. It is

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the same footprint as a really big sound bar, but

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all your drivers are bigger, so you're going to have

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way better fidelity when it comes to music. Better for movies,

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more effortless volume, right, three channel, left, right center. You're

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gonna want to add a sou to balance it out,

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but then you run it into an audio video receiver,

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and that is removing all of the electronics away from

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the speaker. So one of the downsides to a soundbar

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is all the electronics are very close to the driver

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of the speaker, and electronics make sound. It we call

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it noise and distortion. That's a phrase. It's overused in

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this industry. Everything is noise. We're going to remove the noise,

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but electronics make electronics sounds. So if it's kind of

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like that electricity hissing sound, and you can get filters

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on a power center. You can go down that.

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Rabbit hole forever.

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But if you just remove that box away from the speaker,

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now you're not putting more noise and distortion into the system.

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And that piece is it's dedicated to do one thing.

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Receive the signals, process it, and then kick it out

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and you're gonna get a lot more power and different

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types of power. So that's the other thing about soundbars

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is most of them that I can think of all

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Class D amplifiers, which are great. They've come a really

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long way. Class D is what's in your cell phone,

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you know, your tablet. They're really small and efficient. They

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don't put off a lot of heat. But if you

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want really good power, you've got to have something that

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stores a little bit of the energy. And when you

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do that, it's ready to go faster, and again it

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has less noise in it, so you get.

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A better sound.

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And that's why you'd want like an apartment. I would

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tell anyone if your budget's a soundbar, great, but for

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not a whole lot more money I can get you,

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for example, like yours, your reference bookshelves, then I'm gonna

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get you a center. We're gonna get you a small

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ten inche sub and you know, we've got a AVR.

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You've got the sixty one hundred from MONKEYO. The fifty

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one hundred is on sale. I was just at a

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best Buy yesterday and a customer bought it and it's

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five hundred and twenty five dollars.

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Wow.

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And that's a that's a really good, you know, network

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receiver with airplay and chrome cast and does atmost and

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you can plug six devices into it, whereas most sound

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bars only have one maybe two HDMI inputs. Yeah, so

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all your devices are going into this thing and you're

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going to have a way better experience for sure.

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And so the receiver itself is basically, I think from

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what you're saying, is handling all of that away from

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the speakers themselves and basically delivering saying, Okay, this sound

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you go to that speaker, This sound you go to

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that speaker along with power.

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Is that how it works?

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Yep?

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Okay, So you're all your HDMI inputs, your processor, digital

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to analog converters. Not all of those are created equal.

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There's so many, right, and that makes a big difference.

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Because we live in a digital age. Well, all speakers

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are analog, all of them. So if you send a

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digital signal to it, it has to convert it to analog.

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And it's just like a computer if you have a

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If I'm a big gamer, I don't. I don't want

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a basic computer. I need a gaming laptop because I

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need that processing power. It's the same when I'm sending

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a digital signal with music. I need to make sure

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my inputs are good, that i've I can handle the signal,

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and then it can put out the fidelity that I

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want it to.

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Okay, that clears that up for me. I love that.

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All Right, we're gonna take a quick break. Don't go anywhere,

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grab a snack, pet your dog, or just sit in

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silence while you reflect on just how cool Marcus is.

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I won't judge ye, all right, see it in sixty.

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All right, welcome back.

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Thanks for supporting our sponsors and help paying the bills.

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You know, so you said our mains essentially are the

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right and left and center. And then as we start

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adding things and quickly I'm going back for a second,

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you said, typically you would keep those around for a

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long time. And I have noticed that because as I

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was doing research, I've seen people on you know, Facebook, Marketplace.

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And on Reddit talking about uh oh.

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I picked up a pair of these speakers, and the

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speakers are like ten years old, and I had always

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wondered like, well, why are they like so excited about

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something ten years old or five years old? And then

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I guess from what I'm understanding now from you, is

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that a speaker, especially since they're analog and will always

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be that speaker is always going to you know, if

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it's a great speaker, it's going to be a great

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speaker today or ten years from now.

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Is that right?

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Yeah, But it's it's like buying a nice antique car, right,

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you buy a vintage car that wasn't taken care of.

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You've got problems. You have to redo it.

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Speakers still have drivers, you know, there's a rubber surround

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and if they're not taken care of, you'll get dry rot.

486
00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:48.319
And if that seal breaks it doesn't sound good. You

487
00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:52.799
got to replace it. But crossover technology, I don't want

488
00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:55.799
to get too technical, but yes, there is a piece

489
00:25:55.839 --> 00:25:59.000
inside of a speaker that is called a crossover and

490
00:25:59.039 --> 00:26:01.000
that is the easiest way to explain it. That is

491
00:26:01.039 --> 00:26:04.920
the traffic cop so if I've got a high frequency, right,

492
00:26:05.279 --> 00:26:08.039
I send that to the tweeter. Mid frequency, I send

493
00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:12.039
it my mid range driver base to the woofer or subwoffer,

494
00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:14.960
depending on your system. But that technology has come a

495
00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:19.519
long way as well. So I'm not a big vintage

496
00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:23.000
speaker person unless it is like you really really took

497
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:25.119
care of it, you know, the gentleman. It's a great

498
00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:27.319
story from just yesterday. But the guy that bought the

499
00:26:27.319 --> 00:26:29.759
Honkey receiver, he has a pair of clips heresies from

500
00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:33.599
nineteen seventy five. Wow, and yeah, he's like, I was

501
00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:35.920
gonna put him on Facebook marketplace, but then my son

502
00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:38.119
was like, I got you have to give those to me, Dad,

503
00:26:38.400 --> 00:26:40.160
And he's like, all right, I guess we'll keep them

504
00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:43.599
in the family. But he stored them well, kept them

505
00:26:43.599 --> 00:26:46.279
in great condition. You know, you can buy other parts

506
00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:48.519
for speakers if you want to keep them forever. But

507
00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:50.720
I tell a lot of people, get if you can

508
00:26:50.720 --> 00:26:53.640
buy the new stuff, you'll be so impressed with the

509
00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:56.599
level of performance you can get. Right if you pick

510
00:26:56.640 --> 00:27:00.160
up you pick premium audio company. Yeah, you start at

511
00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:02.920
that entry level price point with a premium company and51200:27:02.960 --> 00:27:05.319



you're going to have a great experience and then you51300:27:05.640 --> 00:27:07.880



know where that speaker's been. There's no scratches on. It's51400:27:07.920 --> 00:27:11.039



brand new, that is yours, you know, by the biggest,51500:27:11.079 --> 00:27:14.160



baddest speaker you can for your budget for that front stage.51600:27:14.200 --> 00:27:16.519



And you're not gonna you're not gonna regret.51700:27:16.279 --> 00:27:18.960



That well, and it seems like what you're saying is51800:27:19.000 --> 00:27:22.359



that you know, since I want to invest in those51900:27:22.400 --> 00:27:25.039



three in particular, those are going to be a part52000:27:25.039 --> 00:27:27.680



of my system in five years and say it's not52100:27:27.799 --> 00:27:30.079



something you know, I think a lot of us are52200:27:30.160 --> 00:27:33.400



used to just kind of disposable electronics, you know, where52300:27:34.240 --> 00:27:37.240



oh my buds that go in my ear in a52400:27:37.279 --> 00:27:38.960



couple of years, the battery is going to be crappy.52500:27:39.000 --> 00:27:40.799



I spent three hundred bucks on them. I'll just buy52600:27:40.799 --> 00:27:43.720



a new one. These like, if you invest well now,52700:27:44.319 --> 00:27:47.759



they are going to serve you throughout your kind of52800:27:47.759 --> 00:27:48.799



home theater journey.52900:27:48.839 --> 00:27:52.240



From from my understanding, absolutely.53000:27:51.799 --> 00:27:56.000



And as long as you stay with the same brand53100:27:56.519 --> 00:28:00.079



and style of speaker, you can add to it and53200:28:00.119 --> 00:28:02.640



you're gonna have the same type of sound. It's called53300:28:02.680 --> 00:28:05.960



timber matching. It's making sure that like if you've got53400:28:06.000 --> 00:28:08.920



the reference speakers that's an aluminum tweeter. I want to53500:28:08.920 --> 00:28:11.519



make sure that the next set I buy, if I53600:28:11.559 --> 00:28:14.680



buy the reference, you know, next generation, get the ones53700:28:14.720 --> 00:28:16.799



with the aluminum tweeter, and all have the same style53800:28:16.880 --> 00:28:19.519



of sound all the way around, and it sounds the same,53900:28:19.680 --> 00:28:22.160



so that you don't have that bright sound in the54000:28:22.200 --> 00:28:23.799



back and then a warm sound up front.54100:28:23.839 --> 00:28:26.400



Everything matches and you can build onto that.54200:28:26.440 --> 00:28:26.720



Again.54300:28:26.960 --> 00:28:29.799



You build that front stage and you have an AVR,54400:28:30.160 --> 00:28:33.880



you know, the the sixty one fifty one hundred. You've54500:28:33.880 --> 00:28:36.440



got plenty of channels you can add to it. So54600:28:36.480 --> 00:28:39.920



you're building onto the system without ever growing out of it.54700:28:40.799 --> 00:28:41.279



Gotcha.54800:28:41.440 --> 00:28:45.480



Okay, So so now we've covered sound bars and the54900:28:45.519 --> 00:28:52.480



center stage receivers. So what is the five point the55000:28:52.640 --> 00:28:53.400



seven point?55100:28:53.440 --> 00:28:56.920



You know, are those just adding additional.55200:28:57.839 --> 00:29:01.160



Sound sounds, I don't want to say sounds, but speakers,55300:29:01.200 --> 00:29:02.079



I guess yeah.55400:29:02.119 --> 00:29:05.440



It Well, when the movie was recorded, you know, someone55500:29:05.839 --> 00:29:08.240



listened to the whole movie with their board and they said,55600:29:08.240 --> 00:29:09.640



this is going to go over here. And a lot55700:29:09.640 --> 00:29:13.319



of movies the content is edited, you know, it's added in.55800:29:13.400 --> 00:29:16.559



It wasn't recorded right there, so they add it in.55900:29:16.640 --> 00:29:20.279



And you can get an incredible experience today by making56000:29:20.319 --> 00:29:22.200



sure you experience that, which is if I have a56100:29:22.359 --> 00:29:24.839



let's start with five dot one, so I've got five56200:29:24.880 --> 00:29:29.480



speakers right left, right, center, two surrounds, and then the56300:29:29.559 --> 00:29:30.880



dot one is always your.56400:29:30.759 --> 00:29:31.720



Sub will fer level.56500:29:31.759 --> 00:29:36.039



That's a low frequency goes straight to the sub and56600:29:36.079 --> 00:29:40.960



that that also helps the speaker not try to play56700:29:41.119 --> 00:29:44.519



lower than it can. You're giving that to the sub56800:29:44.559 --> 00:29:47.279



will for to take over. And the sub will fers56900:29:47.319 --> 00:29:50.359



today are incredible. They effortlessly give you lots of base.57000:29:50.880 --> 00:29:53.039



But a five dot one is a really simple system.57100:29:53.079 --> 00:29:55.759



When you go to seven dot one, then you're just57200:29:55.920 --> 00:29:59.839



adding two more speakers, which are your immediate right and57300:30:00.119 --> 00:30:03.319



mediate left, and then you've got two behind you, so57400:30:03.359 --> 00:30:07.519



you've got four surrounds and then your front stage one suboffer.57500:30:07.720 --> 00:30:10.039



When you go to at posts, you're adding that that57600:30:10.200 --> 00:30:12.960



dot system. So at most well that's where you see57700:30:13.000 --> 00:30:16.119



like a seven dot two dot one.57800:30:16.640 --> 00:30:23.039



Okay, so the high channels are they're the ones that57900:30:23.079 --> 00:30:25.400



are on the ceiling and point down is that right.58000:30:25.880 --> 00:30:28.240



To two schools of thought. So you've got a couple58100:30:28.279 --> 00:30:31.400



flavors here. You can either have toppers on your speaker58200:30:31.880 --> 00:30:33.519



that reflect off the ceiling.58300:30:34.400 --> 00:30:35.920



So if you have an apartment.58400:30:35.960 --> 00:30:38.400



Again, I don't want to cut holes in an apartment58500:30:38.440 --> 00:30:41.200



I'm renting, not going to be a good not gonna58600:30:41.200 --> 00:30:44.079



do what I leave. Let's reflect it off the ceiling58700:30:44.119 --> 00:30:46.519



with the atmost topper that sits on top of your speaker,58800:30:46.680 --> 00:30:48.839



it's about a forty five degree angle, and then it58900:30:48.920 --> 00:30:51.240



just reflects down to your listing position. You can get59000:30:51.240 --> 00:30:54.400



an incredible atmost experience that way, and you can do59100:30:54.880 --> 00:30:57.160



uh most systems can do four of those, So you59200:30:57.200 --> 00:30:59.680



can do four at most toppers and then have a59300:30:59.720 --> 00:31:03.279



five channel surround sound and have an awesome experience.59400:31:04.000 --> 00:31:05.519



And what's the second school of thought?59500:31:06.119 --> 00:31:09.279



Second school of thought is I put speakers in the ceiling,59600:31:09.359 --> 00:31:11.960



so that and that's that's the best way to do59700:31:12.000 --> 00:31:15.000



it because you can control it more. You're sending that59800:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.759



that driver directly to the listening position, and it's just59900:31:19.119 --> 00:31:22.400



way more immersive, at least in my experience. There's there's60000:31:22.440 --> 00:31:25.680



some great examples of upward firing drivers and reflection, but60100:31:25.960 --> 00:31:28.200



if your ceiling's too high or you have like a60200:31:28.279 --> 00:31:32.079



vault to it, it's just going to change the experience60300:31:32.119 --> 00:31:34.680



a little bit. Whereas if you have in ceiling speakers,60400:31:35.240 --> 00:31:37.640



fire them down and then run. You know, you have60500:31:37.640 --> 00:31:41.000



built in room calibration with all of our AVRs. You60600:31:41.079 --> 00:31:42.880



calibrate it for the seating position.60700:31:43.079 --> 00:31:43.400



It is.60800:31:43.720 --> 00:31:47.319



It's a life changing experience, especially for a movie buff60900:31:47.440 --> 00:31:48.000



like yourself.61000:31:48.160 --> 00:31:52.839



Yeah, yeah, I'm My project, you know over the next61100:31:52.880 --> 00:31:55.759



couple of weeks is to really fine tune everything, put61200:31:55.759 --> 00:31:59.279



it all together. And you know, because I'm just so61300:31:59.359 --> 00:32:03.519



excited now talking to you about just all the different options.61400:32:03.559 --> 00:32:06.160



And you know, I was confused about the what is61500:32:06.200 --> 00:32:08.559



it dot one dot two or whatever?61600:32:08.839 --> 00:32:13.480



So that's yeah, so five dot two, dot one dot61700:32:13.519 --> 00:32:17.240



two that yep, you've got. Your first number is your speakers.61800:32:17.720 --> 00:32:20.960



Second number is your utmost channels. Next is your subs,61900:32:21.160 --> 00:32:23.559



which you can add more than one sub because they're62000:32:23.559 --> 00:32:26.799



all getting the same signal, so you could split it off,62100:32:26.920 --> 00:32:28.480



have a sub in the back of the room, in62200:32:28.559 --> 00:32:31.640



front of the room, and sometimes they balance each other out.62300:32:31.680 --> 00:32:34.279



Sometimes they just add a lot more base.62400:32:35.119 --> 00:32:40.400



Okay, so what do you think bottom line for somebody62500:32:40.599 --> 00:32:43.480



you know that wants to jump into this, because it62600:32:43.559 --> 00:32:46.480



can get I mean, now I'm much more educated than62700:32:46.519 --> 00:32:49.640



I was a half hour ago. But where's the best62800:32:49.640 --> 00:32:52.039



place for them to start? So, like, if I go62900:32:52.119 --> 00:32:57.079



to premium audio company's website. Will that direct me into63000:32:57.119 --> 00:33:00.480



building a system? Do you guys already have recommended systems?63100:33:00.880 --> 00:33:04.000



We do, so we have. You can go to images63200:33:04.039 --> 00:33:07.680



that's like an all in one type package. Also, you63300:33:07.720 --> 00:33:11.160



can get packages online. So if we love to go63400:33:11.200 --> 00:33:12.799



to our dealers, you know, you can go to clips63500:33:12.839 --> 00:33:16.200



dot com. But if you go to any dealer, local dealer,63600:33:16.359 --> 00:33:18.680



you know, go take a listen to what you like63700:33:18.799 --> 00:33:22.319



to hear. Hopefully it's a clip speaker. We have a63800:33:22.359 --> 00:33:24.720



pretty big following a lot of people. A lot of63900:33:24.720 --> 00:33:29.400



people listen to clips absolutely, But again, really think about64000:33:29.400 --> 00:33:31.599



your budget and then what I want you to do64100:33:31.880 --> 00:33:35.160



is if if you have a spouse, talk to them64200:33:35.160 --> 00:33:37.720



about that budget. First you're on the same page because64300:33:37.960 --> 00:33:40.160



if you show up with a ton of speakers and64400:33:40.240 --> 00:33:43.759



you didn't talk about it, they're going right back. But no,64500:33:44.119 --> 00:33:47.160



look at that budget and then do some research and64600:33:47.200 --> 00:33:49.599



then go back to your budget. One of the things64700:33:49.599 --> 00:33:52.119



I tell people all the time that are like, hey,64800:33:52.119 --> 00:33:55.200



here's my budget. How did you get to that number?64900:33:55.519 --> 00:33:58.240



Is that just all you have to spend? Because when65000:33:58.279 --> 00:34:01.160



you start doing research, you know you're gonna see, oh,65100:34:01.240 --> 00:34:03.079



you know, I need that I'd like to start with65200:34:03.160 --> 00:34:06.039



that at least, and that budget grows all the time.65300:34:06.119 --> 00:34:07.960



So take a look at your budget, do some research,65400:34:08.400 --> 00:34:11.639



then go back to the budget. If I go to65500:34:11.639 --> 00:34:14.280



clips dot com and I'm looking at the reference line,65600:34:14.320 --> 00:34:17.320



you know we build that for that entry level price point.65700:34:18.199 --> 00:34:21.039



You don't have to buy the biggest ones we have,65800:34:21.199 --> 00:34:23.400



like you've got the the R eight hundreds. Those are65900:34:23.800 --> 00:34:26.679



that's a big speaker. But you can go to the smaller,66000:34:28.159 --> 00:34:31.440



the smaller UH speakers that have like a six inch driver.66100:34:31.559 --> 00:34:34.320



You have eight inch and we even make one called66200:34:34.320 --> 00:34:38.159



the six oh five and that's got a at most66300:34:38.159 --> 00:34:40.559



speaker built into it. Oh wow, So you can't even66400:34:40.599 --> 00:34:43.159



see it. It's built in and it plays through a66500:34:43.199 --> 00:34:45.880



grill off your ceiling. That that is one of the66600:34:45.920 --> 00:34:49.199



best pound for pound speakers you can get because you66700:34:49.239 --> 00:34:51.960



will get every penny that you spend on a speaker,66800:34:52.000 --> 00:34:53.519



You're gonna get a great experience from it.66900:34:53.760 --> 00:34:54.719



You will not regret it.67000:34:55.159 --> 00:34:58.199



And then the center channel, UH, you've got a front67100:34:58.320 --> 00:35:01.280



ported center from in the reference line, which means you67200:35:01.280 --> 00:35:03.960



can put it flat against a wall and not take67300:35:04.039 --> 00:35:06.239



up a lot of real estate and you'll still have67400:35:06.639 --> 00:35:10.519



four drivers and a tweeter. So that dialogue, if there's67500:35:10.519 --> 00:35:14.840



one thing crip clips does incredibly well vocal presence. I mean,67600:35:15.280 --> 00:35:19.199



you're watching TV movies, you know again, I've watched Top67700:35:19.199 --> 00:35:22.159



Gun Maverick last night, and no matter what's happening in67800:35:22.159 --> 00:35:24.719



the background, that dialogue is right there. And that's a67900:35:24.719 --> 00:35:27.159



big part in movies because if you only have a68000:35:27.239 --> 00:35:31.559



left and a right and you're blending that information, whenever68100:35:31.599 --> 00:35:33.440



there's a whisper, you got to turn it up. Yeah,68200:35:33.440 --> 00:35:35.159



and then action scene happens out it's too loud.68300:35:35.159 --> 00:35:35.800



I got turned out.68400:35:36.119 --> 00:35:38.199



So you want to make sure that you spend a68500:35:38.280 --> 00:35:41.719



good chunk of that budget on let's say thirty percent68600:35:41.960 --> 00:35:45.480



on the left, right, center, plant thirty percent on your68700:35:46.239 --> 00:35:49.880



power and then look at the rest. You still got68800:35:49.880 --> 00:35:51.800



to buy some wire. You got to make sure you68900:35:51.880 --> 00:35:55.519



have the right cables, and then however many speakers you69000:35:55.559 --> 00:35:58.199



want to do behind you goes off your budget, and69100:35:58.239 --> 00:36:01.880



then next year that bonus go back to it.69200:36:01.920 --> 00:36:03.239



Build onto the system.69300:36:03.559 --> 00:36:06.880



You know, it's it's it's a great experience. And if69400:36:06.880 --> 00:36:09.920



you are on a budget where it's a soundbar, do69500:36:10.119 --> 00:36:13.039



not think of that as a negative. You have zero69600:36:13.159 --> 00:36:16.239



audio and now you have one hundred percent more audio. Yeah,69700:36:16.320 --> 00:36:18.920



so soundbars are a great solution for an entry level69800:36:18.960 --> 00:36:22.360



price point. You buy that Flexus Core one hundred, three69900:36:22.440 --> 00:36:25.400



hundred and fifty bucks two built in subs so you70000:36:25.440 --> 00:36:28.079



don't have to have a sub right away. It decodes70100:36:28.119 --> 00:36:32.440



Dolby at most now it virtualizes it again. But let's70200:36:32.480 --> 00:36:34.840



say next year you want to add surrounds. You can70300:36:34.880 --> 00:36:37.760



add surrounds, you can add a wireless sub. You get70400:36:37.760 --> 00:36:40.119



that big bonus. Guess what you do at that soundbar.70500:36:40.199 --> 00:36:42.440



That sound bar is now going in the bedroom and70600:36:42.519 --> 00:36:45.239



in the living room. I'm gonna buy an AVR and70700:36:45.239 --> 00:36:47.679



I'm gonna buy a big center channel and a couple speakers.70800:36:47.719 --> 00:36:50.800



So it is a journey that the customer is going70900:36:50.880 --> 00:36:54.400



to go on, and do not be don't be shy71000:36:54.559 --> 00:36:58.559



about buying something at that lower price point and getting71100:36:58.559 --> 00:37:02.079



started right. It's there for a reason and a lot71200:37:02.119 --> 00:37:05.119



of customers love it. So you can always save good71300:37:05.159 --> 00:37:08.239



audio products. They're gonna sound great for a very long time.71400:37:08.960 --> 00:37:11.360



Awesome, Marcus, thank you so much.71500:37:11.400 --> 00:37:12.960



I think this is going to be so helpful and71600:37:13.079 --> 00:37:15.480



it was so helpful to me and I can't thank71700:37:15.519 --> 00:37:20.039



you enough for you know, breaking it down for us,71800:37:20.239 --> 00:37:22.800



you know, so we know where to go now and71900:37:24.039 --> 00:37:26.440



have a great basis to jump in. And of course72000:37:26.519 --> 00:37:28.639



I would hope they do it with Clips, sure on72100:37:28.800 --> 00:37:31.679



Kio or Teig. I mean again, if you're going to72200:37:31.760 --> 00:37:33.360



do it, why not go to the best of the best,72300:37:33.360 --> 00:37:33.920



you know what I mean.72400:37:34.599 --> 00:37:38.119



We do it and we make something for everybody. We72500:37:38.159 --> 00:37:41.559



have gaming systems, we have sound bars, and we've been72600:37:41.639 --> 00:37:45.039



doing it longer than most audio companies. On Q and72700:37:45.039 --> 00:37:48.960



Clips were both founded in nineteen forty six, and we72800:37:49.320 --> 00:37:51.119



have a phrase at the office we've been pissing the72900:37:51.119 --> 00:37:54.719



neighbors off since nineteen forty six and that's what we73000:37:54.760 --> 00:37:56.280



do and that's what we want our listeners to do.73100:37:56.320 --> 00:37:58.519



The other thing about Clips to remember too, this will73200:37:58.559 --> 00:38:01.840



be my last part, is if you haven't heard a73300:38:01.880 --> 00:38:03.920



Clip speaker before, you probably haven't.73400:38:03.920 --> 00:38:04.480



Didn't know it?73500:38:04.599 --> 00:38:08.000



Yeah, because they're in businesses all over the place because73600:38:08.000 --> 00:38:11.920



we're known for efficiency. So as a customer, I would73700:38:11.920 --> 00:38:13.760



not be doing my job if I didn't. Let you know,73800:38:14.199 --> 00:38:16.760



the main thing behind a Clips product is they don't73900:38:16.760 --> 00:38:18.239



require a lot of power.74000:38:19.159 --> 00:38:19.599



Paul W.74100:38:19.719 --> 00:38:23.320



Clips wanted the most efficient speakers so that the least74200:38:23.360 --> 00:38:26.840



amount of power was needed to give you fidelity, so74300:38:26.880 --> 00:38:28.719



you don't have to spend a lot of money on74400:38:28.760 --> 00:38:32.119



the AVR. It really helps out to have an efficient speaker.74500:38:32.320 --> 00:38:34.800



I'm going to get a lot of volume for very74600:38:34.880 --> 00:38:36.719



little power. And then on the flip side of that,74700:38:36.760 --> 00:38:39.920



we talked about that distortion piece. The less power I have,74800:38:40.000 --> 00:38:42.000



the less distortion I'm going to send to the speaker.74900:38:42.519 --> 00:38:45.719



So for a budget customer, I mean, you cannot go75000:38:45.840 --> 00:38:48.559



wrong with the entry level stuff we have, and then75100:38:48.599 --> 00:38:52.679



again we have something for everybody sound bars, desktop systems,75200:38:52.719 --> 00:38:56.719



So knock yourself out, do your research, check your budget,75300:38:57.559 --> 00:38:58.599



and then do more research.75400:39:00.119 --> 00:39:02.480



Marcus, thank you so much. I can't thank you enough75500:39:02.559 --> 00:39:03.840



for speaking with me.75600:39:04.480 --> 00:39:04.840



Awesome.75700:39:04.880 --> 00:39:07.519



Well, it was my pleasure to be here. Hopefully I75800:39:07.599 --> 00:39:09.960



answered some questions. I know every now and then we75900:39:09.960 --> 00:39:13.079



can get a little technical, but keep it simple.76000:39:14.079 --> 00:39:19.039



Awesome, isn't Marcus amazing?76100:39:19.320 --> 00:39:23.760



Like, dudes, a legit genius couldn't have made it any76200:39:23.800 --> 00:39:28.039



easier for me to understand home theater setups and systems76300:39:28.039 --> 00:39:30.840



and all the different options, because you know, for me76400:39:31.039 --> 00:39:34.559



and I'm a junkie, like, it was overwhelming looking into76500:39:34.599 --> 00:39:37.239



all this stuff. You know, I'm like, what is good76600:39:37.280 --> 00:39:41.039



for my space? What do I deal with this budget?76700:39:41.079 --> 00:39:43.440



Like where do I start if I have three hundred dollars?76800:39:43.480 --> 00:39:45.400



Or where do I start if I have three thousand dollars?76900:39:45.440 --> 00:39:48.920



Like where do I go? And Marcus just broke it77000:39:49.000 --> 00:39:52.920



all down for me and us. And again, I have77100:39:53.000 --> 00:39:58.360



that Ultimate Guide to the Home Theater on the website77200:39:58.400 --> 00:39:59.920



and it's in the show notes. So just click on77300:40:00.079 --> 00:40:03.320



that link and you'll get all the good stuff and77400:40:03.679 --> 00:40:08.079



links to get the systems that we're talking about and more.77500:40:08.360 --> 00:40:09.599



So check that out.77600:40:15.599 --> 00:40:18.800



And now we are jumping from the Ultimate Home Theater77700:40:18.920 --> 00:40:22.119



Guide and the wonderful people at CLIPS and a Kio77800:40:23.239 --> 00:40:27.360



two and this is real Lil John who's gonna be77900:40:27.360 --> 00:40:31.880



talking with us about his brand new collaboration with Hyundai. Listen, Like,78000:40:31.920 --> 00:40:35.239



if you told younger Kyle that one day he'd be78100:40:35.320 --> 00:40:38.159



chatting with Little John about cars, I would have said78200:40:38.239 --> 00:40:40.679



what and he would have said yeah, and then we78300:40:40.679 --> 00:40:44.480



both would have screamed okay, because that's how conversations with78400:40:44.519 --> 00:40:45.159



Little John go.78500:40:45.239 --> 00:40:47.760



In my head. Here he is the one and only78600:40:48.199 --> 00:40:49.000



Lil John.78700:40:53.800 --> 00:40:54.000



Man.78800:40:54.480 --> 00:40:56.800



What's that truck in the background? What kind of truck78900:40:56.880 --> 00:40:57.000



is that?79000:40:57.599 --> 00:41:02.239



Where Oh, that's that this side, you're right.79100:41:02.199 --> 00:41:03.719



Side with that?79200:41:03.719 --> 00:41:06.559



That's I had no idea, to be honest, I'm.79300:41:08.039 --> 00:41:08.400



I know.79400:41:09.559 --> 00:41:13.079



I'm outside of my studio. I'm on location at a79500:41:13.079 --> 00:41:16.199



place called freight Land, which is this haunted attraction in Delaware.79600:41:16.440 --> 00:41:18.559



They've got all kinds of crazy stuff here. So I'm79700:41:18.559 --> 00:41:19.840



working with them on something.79800:41:20.440 --> 00:41:24.519



And what you say, like a Halloween vine?79900:41:24.599 --> 00:41:25.000



You like this?80000:41:25.039 --> 00:41:28.679



Oh, it's my favorite. I'm a huge horror fan.80100:41:29.320 --> 00:41:30.199



Oh my goodness.80200:41:30.280 --> 00:41:31.519



Okay, are you not?80300:41:32.360 --> 00:41:34.440



I don't. I don't do the hind Houdes and all80400:41:34.480 --> 00:41:38.800



of that. Note good, I'm good.80500:41:40.280 --> 00:41:43.559



But what you do do is you do? You are80600:41:43.639 --> 00:41:46.920



working with Hyundai on You just did a commercial with80700:41:47.000 --> 00:41:50.559



them for an exciting new vehicle that they have. Tell80800:41:50.599 --> 00:41:52.119



me about that. How did you get involved with them?80900:41:52.920 --> 00:41:53.199



Uh?81000:41:53.239 --> 00:41:59.000



It's the palis Ad and it's the luxury suv. They81100:41:59.079 --> 00:42:02.599



had an idea because they've done a campaign before way81200:42:02.840 --> 00:42:07.920



it was like called like okay Hyndai and I am81300:42:08.000 --> 00:42:12.719



synonymous with the words okay because of Dave Chappelle and81400:42:12.840 --> 00:42:17.199



my music, So they reached out to me and I81500:42:17.199 --> 00:42:20.119



thought it was a great idea. I loved it, and81600:42:20.159 --> 00:42:22.599



that's how we made it happen, and it was it81700:42:22.719 --> 00:42:26.599



was like easily rolling off the tongue. Once I saw81800:42:26.679 --> 00:42:29.159



the car for the first time and I got in81900:42:29.239 --> 00:42:30.639



the car, I was literally like.82000:42:30.800 --> 00:42:36.039



Okay, Honda, like y'all doing it, Like this is nice,82100:42:36.800 --> 00:42:41.239



Like that really means, it really means, like this is nice.82200:42:41.400 --> 00:42:46.239



Like I wasn't expecting that Hyindai, but okay, y'all do82300:42:47.159 --> 00:42:49.719



and that's what and that's what I got, the vibe82400:42:49.719 --> 00:42:51.880



I got when I got in the car, so I82500:42:52.119 --> 00:42:58.119



was really shocked and impressed at how luxurious the car was.82600:42:58.440 --> 00:43:01.119



Even the way the car looks, the grill on the car,82700:43:01.519 --> 00:43:07.679



it's impressive. It's a fly suv. I wait to get82800:43:07.719 --> 00:43:10.639



one so I can just whip around the city, go82900:43:10.719 --> 00:43:12.440



to the gym, and do what I gotta do in83000:43:12.519 --> 00:43:13.119



my Hyundai.83100:43:14.079 --> 00:43:17.599



And it's a hybrid too, which is amazing, you know83200:43:17.639 --> 00:43:18.119



what I'm saying.83300:43:18.679 --> 00:43:21.440



And that's it's crazy because I've been looking at you know,83400:43:21.559 --> 00:43:27.039



electric versus you know, I mean, yeah, electric, fully electric83500:43:27.400 --> 00:43:30.400



versus just a regular gas and then hybrid and I83600:43:30.440 --> 00:43:32.480



was like, and then Hondai came with this, and it83700:43:32.519 --> 00:43:36.679



was like perfect because I wanted to move for a83800:43:36.840 --> 00:43:40.000



hybrid I didn't want to go fully electric, so I83900:43:40.039 --> 00:43:42.440



think the hybrid is the best way to go because84000:43:42.480 --> 00:43:44.840



you get gas and you can get electric. I think84100:43:44.840 --> 00:43:49.119



it gets like six hundred miles on the charge, you know,84200:43:49.199 --> 00:43:52.239



plus you got gas, like I mean, so it was84300:43:52.800 --> 00:43:55.039



it's crazy how this all came about, and it was84400:43:55.119 --> 00:43:56.559



actually what I was looking for.84500:43:57.440 --> 00:44:00.480



And how was the shoot you know, that was the84600:44:00.480 --> 00:44:04.039



production of that, you know, for shooting the campaign? Like84700:44:04.119 --> 00:44:04.840



where you.84800:44:04.760 --> 00:44:08.159



Know, were you were you.84900:44:07.400 --> 00:44:10.840



Enjoying all this time in this car like you know,85000:44:10.920 --> 00:44:13.599



I mean it's brand new. It's it's I don't it85100:44:13.599 --> 00:44:14.960



hasn't even hit yet right.85200:44:15.440 --> 00:44:18.519



In the streets exactly when it hits on the streets.85300:44:18.559 --> 00:44:22.239



But yeah, it was my first time getting in the car,85400:44:22.840 --> 00:44:25.840



and I you know, I had to like of course85500:44:25.880 --> 00:44:30.559



sit in the car and enjoy the car like and85600:44:30.639 --> 00:44:34.079



it was it was it wraps around you. It's like85700:44:34.199 --> 00:44:39.679



it's really luxurious, and it's like I enjoyed I could85800:44:39.719 --> 00:44:43.159



relax in the car, you know, I just they like85900:44:43.239 --> 00:44:44.920



cut and you can go back to your trailer. And86000:44:44.920 --> 00:44:48.119



I think I was just chilling in the car because86100:44:48.119 --> 00:44:50.920



the car was just that comfy, you know what I mean. Yeah,86200:44:51.119 --> 00:44:54.320



And it's comfy. I shot in one of the social videos.86300:44:54.360 --> 00:44:56.760



I shot all throughout the car, so I was in86400:44:56.760 --> 00:44:59.119



the driver's seat, I was in the passenger seat, I86500:44:59.159 --> 00:45:02.079



was in the backseat, and it was comfortable in all86600:45:02.119 --> 00:45:05.519



of the seats too. So it's not this one person's86700:45:05.559 --> 00:45:12.000



getting the most comfort. It's the full vehicles. It's luxury throughout.86800:45:12.280 --> 00:45:12.880



That's dope.86900:45:13.280 --> 00:45:15.039



Yeah, it's a it's a really nice car. I was87000:45:15.039 --> 00:45:15.719



really impressed.87100:45:16.719 --> 00:45:19.280



So you and I were heading out to the gym87200:45:19.400 --> 00:45:26.360



in a twenty twenty six Hyundai Palisades Palisades Hybrid. What87300:45:26.440 --> 00:45:28.639



are you playing? What's what's the playlist there?87400:45:30.280 --> 00:45:33.320



I mean some people need certain music to get pumped up.87500:45:34.440 --> 00:45:38.079



I'm pumped up because I come. I'm coming to get working.87600:45:38.840 --> 00:45:41.920



We can be in the hotel gym. We could be87700:45:42.039 --> 00:45:45.960



outside on a playground, we could be in my.87800:45:46.079 --> 00:45:48.599



Living room if we ready to work out.87900:45:49.480 --> 00:45:50.320



I'm in a zone.88000:45:50.800 --> 00:45:52.079



I'm coming to work.88100:45:52.440 --> 00:45:56.159



Some people gotta go to the trendy gym and this88200:45:56.239 --> 00:45:59.400



and that. I don't care if they got weights, they88300:45:59.440 --> 00:46:03.320



got machine, or if it ain't nothing but a pull.88400:46:03.159 --> 00:46:05.119



Up bar, and we're gonna get it in.88500:46:05.960 --> 00:46:09.960



We gonna get because that's where I'm dialed in like that.88600:46:10.119 --> 00:46:11.880



I come to work, I don't come to play it.88700:46:13.119 --> 00:46:15.480



All right, So how about you know we're in that88800:46:15.599 --> 00:46:20.159



Hyundai Palisade hybrid chilling, just going on a you know,88900:46:21.039 --> 00:46:23.760



chill ride. What what are you switching to?89000:46:23.840 --> 00:46:24.039



Then?89100:46:25.599 --> 00:46:29.000



I like a lot of Uh. I've been listening to89200:46:29.079 --> 00:46:32.159



the John Baptiste album where he did over the Beethoven.89300:46:32.800 --> 00:46:34.480



Mm hm, he's amazing.89400:46:35.039 --> 00:46:37.639



I went and saw him in Vegas amazing live too.89500:46:37.880 --> 00:46:40.840



Yeah, he looked his team looked out on for me89600:46:40.920 --> 00:46:45.280



and my woman on some tickets, my partner and we89700:46:45.360 --> 00:46:48.039



had a great time. But I would listen to I89800:46:48.079 --> 00:46:49.440



think it's Beethoven Blues.89900:46:49.719 --> 00:46:51.920



I think that's the name of the album.90000:46:52.519 --> 00:46:55.199



We'll We'll, We'll be popping out because I like I90100:46:55.280 --> 00:46:57.840



listened to a lot. I listened to old school hip hop.90200:46:57.880 --> 00:46:59.719



I listened to some new stuff. I listen to a90300:46:59.760 --> 00:47:02.480



lot of jazz. I listened to some blues. I listened90400:47:02.519 --> 00:47:04.400



to like Edna James, I.90500:47:04.400 --> 00:47:04.920



Listen to.90600:47:07.039 --> 00:47:09.440



So like Yeah, but that's one that kind of plays90700:47:09.480 --> 00:47:12.840



a lot in my house, and that skot of like90800:47:12.960 --> 00:47:14.599



new age piano.90900:47:16.360 --> 00:47:17.000



Like music.91000:47:17.639 --> 00:47:20.679



I listened to a lot even in classical too. Listen,91100:47:21.800 --> 00:47:25.239



we played classical for my daughter. So all kind of91200:47:25.320 --> 00:47:29.280



music get played in the house, Salsa, every nice.91300:47:29.360 --> 00:47:29.920



Yeah.91400:47:30.280 --> 00:47:33.920



So you know, streaking of chilling, you have a meditation91500:47:34.079 --> 00:47:39.719



album coming out, you know what. It's not that I91600:47:39.760 --> 00:47:42.440



would think somebody, you know, if I was like, yo,91700:47:42.519 --> 00:47:45.280



did you get that new Little John, I don't think91800:47:45.280 --> 00:47:48.320



they would immediately think like, you know, now a say91900:47:48.519 --> 00:47:54.400



type of you know, meditation album. What what has led.92000:47:54.239 --> 00:47:55.119



You to this?92100:47:56.119 --> 00:47:56.320



Well?92200:47:56.360 --> 00:47:59.639



This is my third project.92300:47:58.840 --> 00:47:59.000



Uh.92400:47:59.840 --> 00:48:04.280



The the first one was we did what's the name?92500:48:04.320 --> 00:48:06.239



I can't even remember the name of the freaking album.92600:48:06.679 --> 00:48:09.599



This is the third. Total Meditation was the first album,92700:48:10.000 --> 00:48:14.880



and then Manifest Abundance Affirmations for Personal Growth was the92800:48:14.920 --> 00:48:19.519



second album. And this album is remixed meditation. So I92900:48:19.599 --> 00:48:24.079



recorded this album kind of about two three years ago.93000:48:24.159 --> 00:48:28.840



When I recorded the other stuff and we this one,93100:48:29.280 --> 00:48:31.440



me and my partners were like, oh, this is amazing,93200:48:31.480 --> 00:48:34.760



but I was I was like, this cannot come first93300:48:35.199 --> 00:48:38.440



because basically this album is I took a bunch of93400:48:38.480 --> 00:48:41.480



songs that I produced are that were my songs that93500:48:41.559 --> 00:48:45.000



I was on artist on and I turned those into meditations.93600:48:45.679 --> 00:48:49.440



So like we're we're putting the first single out as yeah,93700:48:49.519 --> 00:48:51.800



and it's like say yeah to life.93800:48:52.119 --> 00:48:52.719



You know what I mean.93900:48:52.840 --> 00:48:56.719



So it's like, so we flipped it and like it's94000:48:56.760 --> 00:48:59.440



the music is totally different. Shout out to Kabar Sego.94100:48:59.519 --> 00:49:02.679



He produced all of this, the music and the album94200:49:03.199 --> 00:49:09.159



and it's like meditation music. But so imagine, yeah, the94300:49:09.280 --> 00:49:14.519



music flipped to you know, meditation like we did Lovers94400:49:14.519 --> 00:49:17.480



and Friends and Lovers and Friends just like a jazz94500:49:18.760 --> 00:49:24.719



jazz but it's like jazz meditation music. You know, It's94600:49:24.800 --> 00:49:28.360



just it's awesome. It's something different, and I think it's94700:49:28.400 --> 00:49:30.920



something that's going to really connect with people. And it's94800:49:30.920 --> 00:49:34.039



probably gonna go crazy on TikTok because people love the94900:49:34.079 --> 00:49:35.119



crack jokes.95000:49:35.480 --> 00:49:37.880



So they had some jokes about it.95100:49:38.079 --> 00:49:40.719



But and that's why I didn't want to put that95200:49:40.800 --> 00:49:42.880



album out first, because I want.95300:49:42.760 --> 00:49:45.360



To take this serious yeast.95400:49:46.599 --> 00:49:50.079



When they heard Total Meditation, they were like, okay, this95500:49:50.599 --> 00:49:53.360



They didn't know what to expect, but they were like, okay,95600:49:53.400 --> 00:49:56.679



this is actually it actually is calming and soothing. And95700:49:57.320 --> 00:49:59.000



you know, I had so many people who come to95800:49:59.039 --> 00:50:02.639



me and say, I never meditated before, but you know,95900:50:03.039 --> 00:50:05.039



you brought this to me, and I was able to96000:50:06.119 --> 00:50:08.679



I was actually able to meditate or help me sleep.96100:50:09.039 --> 00:50:11.639



Someone even came to me and said it helped them96200:50:11.639 --> 00:50:14.280



get through some grief that they were going through. So96300:50:15.199 --> 00:50:18.000



I'm just happy to be out here and inspire with96400:50:18.400 --> 00:50:21.480



not just the meditation, with the weight loss, because so96500:50:21.480 --> 00:50:25.079



many people, even in the weightlifting, so many people say, ah,96600:50:25.159 --> 00:50:26.880



I can't do it. I can't go to the gym,96700:50:27.000 --> 00:50:28.760



I can't do this, I can't do that. I'm fifty96800:50:28.800 --> 00:50:32.199



three years old, i got a ten month old daughter.96900:50:32.639 --> 00:50:35.400



I'm in the studio, and I'm on the road doing shows,97000:50:35.760 --> 00:50:38.840



and I was able to compete, So it's no excuse97100:50:38.880 --> 00:50:43.599



for anybody else. And you know, chef on the road97200:50:43.719 --> 00:50:47.239



with me. I have a trainer, but I'm you know,97300:50:47.280 --> 00:50:49.639



I saw some people like say, oh, he can do97400:50:49.679 --> 00:50:53.320



it because he got this, that, this and that. No, still,97500:50:53.440 --> 00:50:56.599



I gotta do the work. Yeah, dedicated, I got to97600:50:56.639 --> 00:51:00.239



eat right, you know, And it's hard. All of that97700:51:00.440 --> 00:51:04.440



is extremely hard on the road and especially also trying97800:51:04.440 --> 00:51:09.079



to work out on the road because something traveling. I'm tired,97900:51:09.119 --> 00:51:12.559



I'm exhausted. And if you work out when you're exhausted,98000:51:13.480 --> 00:51:16.599



you defeat the purpose because you can't have growth and98100:51:16.679 --> 00:51:18.960



you can you can potentially hurt yourself, you could potentially98200:51:19.000 --> 00:51:23.519



get sick. So it's a balance. It's a struggle. It's hard,98300:51:23.599 --> 00:51:27.559



but it's a lifestyle change for me, you know. So98400:51:27.599 --> 00:51:30.639



it's you know, help with now for me is everything,98500:51:30.800 --> 00:51:33.519



you know. I have my daughter's here, she's ten months old,98600:51:34.239 --> 00:51:35.880



and I look at it like I got to be98700:51:35.920 --> 00:51:42.000



there for her first day of school. Yeah, college graduation.98800:51:42.280 --> 00:51:46.280



I gotta be there to walk her down. So I98900:51:46.320 --> 00:51:48.360



can only do that if I take care of myself,99000:51:49.079 --> 00:51:51.719



you know. So I hope, I hope I can inspire99100:51:51.800 --> 00:51:56.079



other people to do the same. Stop eating the fast foods,99200:51:56.320 --> 00:52:00.000



stop eating the processed foods, watch what you're putting into99300:52:00.079 --> 00:52:04.440



your body, and you know, take the proper supplements and99400:52:04.519 --> 00:52:08.079



you can live along, healthy.99500:52:07.159 --> 00:52:08.000



Happy life.99600:52:08.639 --> 00:52:13.760



Yes, sir, and physical I love that. I love that99700:52:13.880 --> 00:52:16.320



so much, Little John, thank you so much. Come back99800:52:16.360 --> 00:52:18.880



on the show Man, we'll talk about your album. I99900:52:18.880 --> 00:52:21.239



can't wait to hear that, a mix of Deepak and100000:52:21.320 --> 00:52:22.559



Oprah and John.100100:52:22.840 --> 00:52:29.360



And uh and that that comes out in October, the100200:52:30.360 --> 00:52:31.400



October twenty.100300:52:31.239 --> 00:52:33.599



Ninth, yes sir, October twenty nine.100400:52:34.480 --> 00:52:41.559



And then Awesome and then the Hyundai Palisade Hybrid that100500:52:41.639 --> 00:52:43.840



campaign is out right now and you're on the road100600:52:43.880 --> 00:52:46.519



with Mariah Carey. Thank you so much.100700:52:46.559 --> 00:52:51.679



Brother, Yes, sir, thank you.100800:52:51.679 --> 00:52:55.239



Get low, get Lo, get Lo, getting Lo.100900:52:55.679 --> 00:53:00.159



All right, Little John, love Little John, and love our101000:53:00.199 --> 00:53:03.880



friends at Hyundai. So we're going to switch gears and101100:53:04.039 --> 00:53:08.079



dive into The Last Frontier, the new Apple TV Plus101200:53:08.119 --> 00:53:11.199



series that gives big I need to binge this in101300:53:11.239 --> 00:53:14.239



one sitting vibes. I'm telling you it's really really good.101400:53:14.440 --> 00:53:17.039



First up, we were joined by co creator, writer, and101500:53:17.079 --> 00:53:21.440



executive producer John baching Camp to talk about how The101600:53:21.519 --> 00:53:25.199



Last Frontier came together and how he went from creating101700:53:25.360 --> 00:53:29.119



The Blacklist to now ep ing The Last Frontier.101800:53:29.119 --> 00:53:35.320



Here he is, John backing Camp. Thank you so much101900:53:35.360 --> 00:53:36.280



for speaking with me.102000:53:36.320 --> 00:53:39.360



John app for sure it yeah, thank you, Tom So.102100:53:39.760 --> 00:53:43.119



First of all, congrats on the Last Frontier. It is102200:53:43.320 --> 00:53:49.760



really compelling. I am loving every second of it. What gig,102300:53:50.320 --> 00:53:50.840



of course?102400:53:50.920 --> 00:53:51.599



What gave you?102500:53:52.360 --> 00:53:53.440



Why this project?102600:53:53.679 --> 00:53:57.159



You know, why were you drawn to this project?102700:53:57.440 --> 00:53:59.400



I think I was really drawn to the scope of it, right,102800:53:59.440 --> 00:54:04.559



the idea something so remote and yet so beautiful, and102900:54:05.880 --> 00:54:10.840



the problems that the rugged nature of Alaska would present103000:54:11.239 --> 00:54:14.800



to a planeload of inmates who are incredibly ill equipped103100:54:15.119 --> 00:54:16.840



to be in this landscape.103200:54:16.920 --> 00:54:19.840



Right, that's part of it, you know.103300:54:19.920 --> 00:54:23.239



The The idea of trying to do something that's that's103400:54:23.280 --> 00:54:27.199



action forward, that's very frenetic, that has an incredible pace103500:54:27.280 --> 00:54:30.159



to it was also interesting to me. And yeah, I103600:54:30.159 --> 00:54:31.960



think that's sort of the jumping off point probably.103700:54:33.000 --> 00:54:37.559



And you know, you're no stranger to prestigious fan loved103800:54:38.039 --> 00:54:44.199



successful series with The Blacklist and all. Was this something103900:54:44.199 --> 00:54:45.559



that was on your radar?104000:54:47.079 --> 00:54:48.039



You know what I mean?104100:54:48.519 --> 00:54:50.920



The Blacklist was on for a long time. Was this104200:54:50.960 --> 00:54:53.880



something kind of cooking up in the background, or.104300:54:54.320 --> 00:54:55.119



You know how that's funny.104400:54:55.159 --> 00:54:58.920



It's funny. I've written a bunch of things that have104500:54:59.440 --> 00:55:01.800



some of them. Some are sitting in a on a104600:55:01.840 --> 00:55:05.000



shelf in my closet. Some probably never should be made,104700:55:05.039 --> 00:55:07.239



there's all. You know, there's always these ideas and you104800:55:07.320 --> 00:55:09.519



never know what one's going to connect for whatever reason.104900:55:10.119 --> 00:55:12.159



This is an idea that I had kicked around with105000:55:12.199 --> 00:55:14.960



my dear friend Rich to video back in two thousand105100:55:14.960 --> 00:55:17.599



and six. Right, this is forget. There was no Apple105200:55:17.639 --> 00:55:20.639



TV plus, there were no iPhones. Everyone's on a flip phone.105300:55:20.719 --> 00:55:25.719



It's a long time ago, right, and and so as105400:55:25.760 --> 00:55:27.840



as I was leaving Blacklist and looking forward to what105500:55:27.880 --> 00:55:30.280



else would be fun to do, this felt like a105600:55:30.320 --> 00:55:33.440



series that also had just a little bit of a procedural.105700:55:32.840 --> 00:55:33.559



Feel to it.105800:55:33.559 --> 00:55:36.440



It felt it felt comforting in that way, and yet105900:55:36.480 --> 00:55:39.440



the scope of it is so much bigger and sort106000:55:39.519 --> 00:55:43.039



and how and it has also that sort of serialized106100:55:43.199 --> 00:55:45.280



mystery at the heart of it that it just felt106200:55:45.280 --> 00:55:48.679



like a natural next step. You know, it's a it's106300:55:48.719 --> 00:55:52.760



it's comfort food. It's something that is definitely there's probably106400:55:52.760 --> 00:55:55.280



a little DNA of the Blacklist in it, but it's106500:55:55.320 --> 00:55:58.079



its own. It's its own series that lives and breathes106600:55:58.119 --> 00:55:58.760



on its own.106700:55:59.760 --> 00:56:03.000



And do you, you know, as you're kind of cooking106800:56:03.039 --> 00:56:07.239



this up, if you will, are you kind of thinking,106900:56:07.360 --> 00:56:10.960



you know, Frank and the inmates and that.107000:56:10.960 --> 00:56:11.480



Sort of thing.107100:56:11.840 --> 00:56:14.679



Are you in the earlier stages, are you kind of107200:56:14.679 --> 00:56:21.400



putting together I want this protagonists kind of as a107300:56:21.519 --> 00:56:24.159



character not you know, not obviously fully fleshed out at107400:56:24.159 --> 00:56:26.360



that point, But are you saying like, I need somebody107500:56:26.360 --> 00:56:30.000



who's empathetic but strong for that, you know, or does107600:56:30.039 --> 00:56:32.039



it kind of come organically over time?107700:56:32.239 --> 00:56:35.679



Well, nothing comes organically to me. It's always super painful,107800:56:36.599 --> 00:56:42.159



but the you know, in this it was it was107900:56:42.199 --> 00:56:44.760



sort of the concept first, But then I think very quickly,108000:56:44.760 --> 00:56:46.519



when you sit down with other writers and you start108100:56:46.559 --> 00:56:48.960



looking at, Okay, what's the story going to be, that108200:56:49.039 --> 00:56:52.320



concept sort of falls away. It's a it's a an engine.108300:56:52.360 --> 00:56:55.519



It's something that launches us and gets us going. But ultimately,108400:56:55.599 --> 00:56:59.679



I think the people, the characters, what they're confronting that108500:56:59.760 --> 00:57:02.039



because not only in the riding, but in the viewing108600:57:02.079 --> 00:57:04.840



of the show, the thing that's more important and probably108700:57:04.880 --> 00:57:08.119



the only thing people remember is these characters, right. And108800:57:08.199 --> 00:57:11.760



so as much as it was a blast to sort108900:57:11.760 --> 00:57:13.559



of come up with as big of a situation as109000:57:13.559 --> 00:57:16.239



we could that would launch us into a sort of109100:57:16.280 --> 00:57:19.400



heightened world, then I think you immediately try to ground109200:57:19.400 --> 00:57:21.360



it and figure out who are the people that we're109300:57:21.360 --> 00:57:24.840



going to go on this ride with, what is their109400:57:24.880 --> 00:57:26.840



sort of point of view, what are they up against?109500:57:27.039 --> 00:57:29.039



And that's where all the that's where all the juice is.109600:57:29.079 --> 00:57:34.639



I think, had you been to Alaska before, Yeah, I'd109700:57:34.679 --> 00:57:37.719



been once years ago. I went up there on a109800:57:37.719 --> 00:57:41.280



family vacation. I was mesmerized by it. I flew on109900:57:41.440 --> 00:57:45.320



one of these little float planes, you know, and mosquitoes,110000:57:45.400 --> 00:57:48.559



the size of like seagulls and everything about it was110100:57:48.639 --> 00:57:52.119



just larger than life. And I've been very romantic about110200:57:52.119 --> 00:57:54.199



it since, but I haven't spent a ton of time there.110300:57:54.920 --> 00:57:58.719



And did you kind of you know, well, so this110400:57:58.920 --> 00:58:01.519



was before like two thousand and six when you started110500:58:01.599 --> 00:58:02.599



kind of thinking about that.110600:58:02.760 --> 00:58:05.199



Yeah, probably, yeah, yeah, okay.110700:58:05.519 --> 00:58:09.920



So as you're you know, putting this together, are you110800:58:10.039 --> 00:58:13.039



kind of taking some of those things that you remembered,110900:58:13.639 --> 00:58:15.800



you know, on your trip and being like, you know111000:58:15.880 --> 00:58:16.920



that stuck out in my mind.111100:58:16.920 --> 00:58:18.960



I want that and very much, so very much.111200:58:19.039 --> 00:58:21.760



I remember vividly staying at this place where they had111300:58:22.000 --> 00:58:24.280



I don't know what they technical called them, the dogs111400:58:24.280 --> 00:58:26.599



that are part of the idea rod right, This family111500:58:26.679 --> 00:58:28.360



had these dogs and they were all chained up to111600:58:28.400 --> 00:58:30.159



these little huts and they're all barking when you go111700:58:30.199 --> 00:58:32.639



out at night, and I thought, wow, what is that111800:58:32.679 --> 00:58:33.360



like that.111900:58:33.400 --> 00:58:35.480



Those sort of pieces, they're just to me.112000:58:35.519 --> 00:58:37.039



There's sort of little pieces that maybe go in an112100:58:37.039 --> 00:58:39.760



email to myself or little pieces that stick in your mind.112200:58:39.760 --> 00:58:43.559



But then that's what's almost therapeutic about going through writing112300:58:43.599 --> 00:58:48.199



the series. You're grabbing little pieces of memories, of trips,112400:58:48.400 --> 00:58:51.599



of things that stuck out or felt strange or dangerous112500:58:51.599 --> 00:58:54.000



and trying to put them into this soup and make112600:58:54.079 --> 00:58:54.679



sense of it all.112700:58:55.880 --> 00:58:59.519



Do you I'm just curious about, you know, as you112800:58:59.679 --> 00:59:03.639



are doing a project like this, do you start to112900:59:04.159 --> 00:59:10.079



kind of you know, for instance, the characters themselves are obviously,113000:59:10.239 --> 00:59:13.239



you know, integral, and they're so well written and fleshed out,113100:59:13.559 --> 00:59:19.599



but Alaska, you know, the scene itself kind of becomes113200:59:19.639 --> 00:59:22.519



a character in a lot of ways. You know, do113300:59:22.559 --> 00:59:27.639



you know that kind of going in, like obviously it's113400:59:27.679 --> 00:59:32.000



part of the premise, but it really is integral.113500:59:31.440 --> 00:59:33.239



To the entire story.113600:59:33.360 --> 00:59:37.760



I know, Look, I have a good point of reference113700:59:37.800 --> 00:59:40.599



for that because I did not know that going in.113800:59:40.800 --> 00:59:44.360



So many times people say, you know, oh, the location,113900:59:44.519 --> 00:59:48.079



the landscape is a character in the story, and I114000:59:48.119 --> 00:59:49.880



was nervous about that because I didn't really know.114100:59:49.840 --> 00:59:50.360



What that meant.114200:59:50.360 --> 00:59:53.360



I knew visually what that meant, but not necessarily what114300:59:53.400 --> 00:59:56.039



it meant to the characters. And through working we had114400:59:56.079 --> 01:00:00.840



a consultant from there who helped us with a lot114501:00:00.840 --> 01:00:03.039



of sort of indigenous points of view on the show.114601:00:03.360 --> 01:00:07.159



But he was talking about Sam Alexander started talking to114701:00:07.239 --> 01:00:10.920



me one day about how you have to be the114801:00:10.920 --> 01:00:14.199



community is very important. You might be stuck thirty miles114901:00:14.239 --> 01:00:16.400



away from anything, and the only person that's going to115001:00:16.440 --> 01:00:18.320



come by on the road is that neighbor who you115101:00:18.360 --> 01:00:19.880



really don't get along with, but he's going to be115201:00:19.880 --> 01:00:21.519



the one who's going to help you out, right, And115301:00:21.599 --> 01:00:24.639



so there are problems in a place like this that115401:00:24.679 --> 01:00:26.400



you can't buy your way out of, you can't pick115501:00:26.480 --> 01:00:28.480



up the phone call your way out of, and you115601:00:28.559 --> 01:00:32.559



have to depend on people, right, And so that community,115701:00:33.119 --> 01:00:34.880



that's what I became really interested in it. And so115801:00:34.920 --> 01:00:40.000



when we talk about the sort of the landscape being115901:00:40.039 --> 01:00:42.159



a character in the show, it really is, but again116001:00:42.320 --> 01:00:44.960



only through those people who are existing in this place.116101:00:44.960 --> 01:00:46.920



And I thought that was a really interesting point of view.116201:00:48.039 --> 01:00:49.119



It is, and it.116301:00:49.079 --> 01:00:51.920



Comes across beautifully and a great way for everybody to116401:00:51.960 --> 01:00:53.320



see The Last Frontier.116501:00:53.400 --> 01:00:54.360



John, It's really great.116601:00:54.440 --> 01:00:55.280



Hey, thank you so much.116701:00:55.320 --> 01:00:56.639



I appreciate you taking the time to chat.116801:00:57.320 --> 01:00:59.239



Thank you, and I hope to see you for more.116901:01:00.440 --> 01:01:06.599



Cool care, Take care, John bukin Camp.117001:01:06.960 --> 01:01:11.400



Awesome guy, awesome show, and you've got to watch The117101:01:11.480 --> 01:01:14.519



Last Frontier. Gonna take a quick break, but when we117201:01:14.559 --> 01:01:18.079



come back. We're staying in that Last Frontier with its117301:01:18.119 --> 01:01:20.679



star and executive producer Jason Clark.117401:01:20.920 --> 01:01:28.280



I'll see you in sixty Welcome back.117501:01:28.480 --> 01:01:31.239



We're continuing with The Last Frontier and we've got its117601:01:31.320 --> 01:01:34.519



star and executive producer Jason Clark, who is one of117701:01:34.559 --> 01:01:38.440



those actors who just disappears into every role. Meanwhile, I117801:01:38.480 --> 01:01:41.719



can't disappear anywhere because I'm too loud and tan. You117901:01:41.760 --> 01:01:47.199



know Jason from things like pat Cemetery, Terminator, Genesis, and118001:01:47.760 --> 01:01:51.079



that little movie called Oppenheimer. Now he is going to118101:01:51.159 --> 01:01:55.360



talk to us about Apple TV plus is the Last Frontier.118201:01:55.400 --> 01:02:02.239



Here he is, Jason Clark. Thank you Jason for joining me.118301:02:02.280 --> 01:02:02.960



I appreciate it.118401:02:03.000 --> 01:02:04.639



Good mate. How are you. It's a great setup you118501:02:04.719 --> 01:02:05.440



got going on there.118601:02:06.000 --> 01:02:11.119



Oh, thank you, I appreciate it. Congratulations on the series.118701:02:11.239 --> 01:02:13.719



I really really loved The Last Frontier.118801:02:14.039 --> 01:02:15.480



Oh I love him that, I really do.118901:02:15.559 --> 01:02:17.199



You guys watch a lot of stuff and it's just119001:02:17.239 --> 01:02:21.079



you know, it's I really respect it because you've been119101:02:21.119 --> 01:02:23.719



watching it, you've gone through it, you're inundated all the time.119201:02:23.760 --> 01:02:25.719



So thank you very much. I enjoyed it.119301:02:25.679 --> 01:02:28.119



Too, And that's what I was going to ask you119401:02:28.239 --> 01:02:28.880



what you know.119501:02:29.039 --> 01:02:35.239



Obviously it's it's a drama, thriller, action, But was it fun.119601:02:35.000 --> 01:02:40.519



To to had a ball man? I rode horses, cadoos, planes,119701:02:41.239 --> 01:02:42.519



you know, thunderbuggies.119801:02:43.159 --> 01:02:43.360



You know.119901:02:43.440 --> 01:02:45.559



It was you know, six and a half minute action120001:02:45.719 --> 01:02:49.199



sequences with Sam Hargray's one of the legends of you know,120101:02:49.280 --> 01:02:52.840



of action and stunt work. It was, you know, we120201:02:52.920 --> 01:02:57.679



shot in mountains and dogs, sledding, and it was it was,120301:02:57.760 --> 01:02:59.480



you know, there were very rarely a day that I120401:02:59.480 --> 01:03:02.599



didn't come home. I'm feeling good, like feeling like I'd120501:03:02.599 --> 01:03:05.320



put in a lot of hard work. You know, there120601:03:05.360 --> 01:03:07.639



was sweat on the brow, I'd rolled up my sleeves.120701:03:08.119 --> 01:03:10.239



I had a great bunch of cast and crew and120801:03:10.320 --> 01:03:12.760



riders and directors around me, a great crew in Montreal,120901:03:13.079 --> 01:03:15.679



and I felt like we'd done something. And then when121001:03:15.719 --> 01:03:17.559



I watched it, I watched all ten and I very121101:03:17.639 --> 01:03:19.440



rarely watch a lot of stuff that I do.121201:03:19.559 --> 01:03:21.559



I wait usually quite a while to do it. So121301:03:21.559 --> 01:03:22.079



that's well in.121401:03:22.039 --> 01:03:26.360



The distance, and I was there was an ease to it,121501:03:26.440 --> 01:03:28.000



do you know what I mean? And I don't mean121601:03:28.039 --> 01:03:29.920



that in a shallow way. I mean there was just121701:03:29.960 --> 01:03:32.280



an ease to man. I really enjoyed that episode.121801:03:32.280 --> 01:03:32.760



There you go.121901:03:32.880 --> 01:03:33.480



Yeah, you know.122001:03:33.519 --> 01:03:35.159



I asked my you know, my son, my ten yure122101:03:35.159 --> 01:03:36.599



and say, what do you think of that? He said, baas,122201:03:36.599 --> 01:03:37.199



watch the next.122301:03:37.079 --> 01:03:38.840



One and you go. And there was something in the122401:03:38.880 --> 01:03:40.199



same way that we shot it. There was a lot122501:03:40.199 --> 01:03:43.039



of confronting things. It was very difficult shooting something this122601:03:43.199 --> 01:03:48.840



ambitious for this long. But you know, I mean, holy moly, dude,122701:03:49.320 --> 01:03:51.679



it's some days you just go, I'm on a this122801:03:51.920 --> 01:03:52.960



is you know man?122901:03:53.079 --> 01:03:56.599



Anyone? Yeah?123001:03:57.239 --> 01:03:59.960



Did you was it there any difficult?123101:04:00.159 --> 01:04:02.679



Is? I mean, you know, it's it's cold, it's dark,123201:04:02.800 --> 01:04:06.079



it's you know, did you did that affect you or123301:04:06.119 --> 01:04:06.960



your performance?123401:04:07.079 --> 01:04:09.960



Or how did you deal with that for your performance?123501:04:10.079 --> 01:04:11.679



Of course, there's a lot of things to you know,123601:04:11.719 --> 01:04:13.920



the big I'll give you. I'll give you a small story.123701:04:14.039 --> 01:04:15.599



But you remember that scene where we get out of123801:04:15.599 --> 01:04:18.599



the helicopter with a big fight, right, yeah, memory, my123901:04:18.800 --> 01:04:21.000



go to load my gun and my gun's jammed and124001:04:21.039 --> 01:04:22.599



there's well there's nothing on a reload.124101:04:22.679 --> 01:04:24.760



Okay, that was all one you know what I mean?124201:04:25.159 --> 01:04:28.039



So yeah, I had to get up and do after124301:04:28.079 --> 01:04:30.679



emptying on the ground, get up and it was slippery,124401:04:30.679 --> 01:04:31.760



it was flat, hard ice.124501:04:32.599 --> 01:04:36.119



And the guy that ran at me and Gator rolled me.124601:04:36.559 --> 01:04:39.679



He's he was the heavyweight jiu jitsu champion of the world,124701:04:40.199 --> 01:04:43.639



Lee Villeneuve, a wonderful man, the strongest man I have124801:04:43.719 --> 01:04:45.320



ever felt in my life, by none.124901:04:45.800 --> 01:04:47.800



And we'd rehearsed it a couple of times, you know,125001:04:47.960 --> 01:04:49.360



in carpeted places on it.125101:04:50.039 --> 01:04:51.239



But he rolled me.125201:04:51.599 --> 01:04:52.280



We did the role.125301:04:52.360 --> 01:04:53.840



That was all great, because that was the important but125401:04:53.920 --> 01:04:55.960



I well, he picks me up to roll me. I125501:04:56.039 --> 01:04:58.519



gotta let it go as I'll do my knee very125601:04:58.599 --> 01:05:01.079



dangerous and once again this this is three minutes, three125701:05:01.159 --> 01:05:04.920



enough minutes into the sequence, so shit's breaking loose already.125801:05:05.519 --> 01:05:09.559



But when he go, when he's hit me in all that,125901:05:09.639 --> 01:05:12.239



before he gets shot, he picked me up, and for126001:05:12.280 --> 01:05:16.719



whatever reason, I thought, holy shit, I'm further off the126101:05:16.760 --> 01:05:19.679



ground than I should be, you know that, for whatever126201:05:19.760 --> 01:05:22.199



it is, because I knew he was gonna slam me down,126301:05:22.719 --> 01:05:24.920



and he slammed me, and you can see it my126401:05:25.000 --> 01:05:28.199



head bang and the whole tent were just like, you know,126501:05:28.360 --> 01:05:30.320



I didn't enough. They thought, oh my god, you know,126601:05:30.480 --> 01:05:34.320



Jason's knocked out, and I was dude, and I thought,126701:05:34.360 --> 01:05:36.760



and he grabbed me again. I thought that was off script.126801:05:36.760 --> 01:05:39.039



You shouldn't be up, so I hope he's I did, Lord,126901:05:39.159 --> 01:05:42.679



do not pick me up again, Man, do a d127001:05:42.960 --> 01:05:45.159



But then Dom comes out of nowhere and shoots him,127101:05:45.199 --> 01:05:46.840



you know what I mean. And it's on but you127201:05:46.840 --> 01:05:48.920



can see me. There's then getting up and I really127301:05:49.119 --> 01:05:52.119



was seeing stars. But like at that point, there's something127401:05:52.159 --> 01:05:54.679



about the old doctor theater. You can't stop because we're127501:05:54.679 --> 01:05:57.280



pulling this off, so you have, you know, get my127601:05:57.360 --> 01:05:59.679



beanie down on my head because I can't leave that down.127701:06:00.800 --> 01:06:02.960



So there was things like that, you know, that were127801:06:03.079 --> 01:06:04.760



you know, there was just things that would happen, and127901:06:04.760 --> 01:06:06.280



you kept going because of the start and you had128001:06:06.280 --> 01:06:08.760



to and you wanted to. The other part was just128101:06:10.000 --> 01:06:12.440



you know, eight months eight months in front of a128201:06:12.480 --> 01:06:15.559



camera gets pretty weird, you know what I mean. It's128301:06:15.559 --> 01:06:20.119



like in your business, it's just you have a strange relationship.128401:06:20.159 --> 01:06:23.519



Then after a while, you know, like you're always on camera,128501:06:24.239 --> 01:06:26.960



you know, you're always and it's the relationship with yourself128601:06:27.039 --> 01:06:31.519



as well, because it's like, you know, you to kind128701:06:31.519 --> 01:06:33.960



of forget the reality of this tunnel you're in, you know,128801:06:34.719 --> 01:06:37.639



and that was hard, you know, and then just you know,128901:06:37.719 --> 01:06:39.880



and then just just just sticking to it, man, you know,129001:06:39.880 --> 01:06:42.119



I mean making sure they didn't get seek, making sure129101:06:42.119 --> 01:06:44.239



I didn't get any injuries, making sure I knew my lines,129201:06:44.280 --> 01:06:46.840



making sure that everyone else was okay, you know, and129301:06:47.199 --> 01:06:49.519



that everyone was happy, you know, because it was it129401:06:49.559 --> 01:06:51.880



was a you know, it was a massive circus that troubled,129501:06:52.280 --> 01:06:55.039



you know, everywhere, and worked for long hours and had129601:06:55.079 --> 01:06:55.639



a lot of fun.129701:06:56.360 --> 01:06:58.079



Well, it really shows.129801:06:58.199 --> 01:07:00.800



I can't wait for everybody to see The Last Frontier.129901:07:00.880 --> 01:07:03.559



You are a gem in it and everything you do.130001:07:03.639 --> 01:07:05.679



So thank you, Jason, I thank you, Mike d I130101:07:05.760 --> 01:07:07.800



appreciate it. Have a great day.130201:07:07.960 --> 01:07:16.079



Enjoy you too, Jason Clark, love him love the Last130301:07:16.119 --> 01:07:19.320



Frontier and it is available right now on Apple TV.130401:07:19.559 --> 01:07:22.599



I highly suggest you watch it, and then of course130501:07:22.679 --> 01:07:25.400



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All right, we go from one thriller to another as131201:07:48.920 --> 01:07:52.840



I chat next with Abby Elliott and Jake Lacy about131301:07:52.880 --> 01:07:56.360



their new project, All Her Fault, which is a limited131401:07:56.400 --> 01:07:59.840



series on Peacock based on the book All Her Fault131501:08:00.199 --> 01:08:05.239



Andrea Amara, which basically is where a mom goes to131601:08:05.360 --> 01:08:08.440



pick up her son from like his first play date131701:08:08.599 --> 01:08:12.320



with a new friend, but the woman who answers the131801:08:12.480 --> 01:08:15.800



door has never heard of her son.131901:08:15.880 --> 01:08:18.319



It's really crazy, really good.132001:08:18.680 --> 01:08:22.840



The vibes are like suspense, drama, mystery, and the occasional132101:08:22.880 --> 01:08:26.199



I can't trust anybody, you know, just like family holidays.132201:08:26.520 --> 01:08:30.439



In any event, let's kick off All Her Faults with132301:08:30.520 --> 01:08:36.560



Abby Elliott and Jake Lucy. Thank you Jake and Abby132401:08:36.600 --> 01:08:37.159



for joining me.132501:08:37.239 --> 01:08:38.319



I really appreciate it.132601:08:38.800 --> 01:08:40.239



Thanks for having me so much.132701:08:40.279 --> 01:08:41.479



Thanks of course.132801:08:41.680 --> 01:08:45.880



So first of all, congratulations on the project. It is132901:08:46.720 --> 01:08:51.199



captivating and I can't wait to talk about it with people.133001:08:51.680 --> 01:08:54.840



How did you both, you know, were you familiar with133101:08:54.880 --> 01:08:57.760



the source material with the book beforehand, and if so,133201:08:57.880 --> 01:09:01.960



did you read it and did that play into your133301:09:02.600 --> 01:09:05.239



you know, doing your characters?133401:09:05.800 --> 01:09:08.960



I I did not. I didn't read it, but I133501:09:09.439 --> 01:09:14.159



love this genre of story, whether it's you know, on133601:09:14.239 --> 01:09:18.159



TV or reading a book or audiobook. I listened to133701:09:18.199 --> 01:09:20.640



a lot of audiobooks. But uh, but this is the133801:09:20.760 --> 01:09:23.359



kind of thing that I love. But I am glad133901:09:23.359 --> 01:09:26.399



that I didn't read it because apparently my character Leah134001:09:26.479 --> 01:09:29.800



is very different in the book, and you know, there134101:09:29.800 --> 01:09:31.520



aren't too many similarities.134201:09:32.840 --> 01:09:40.199



So well, I mean there are, but like with Leah later, but.134301:09:41.159 --> 01:09:45.239



Yeah, I just, uh, I was excited to dive into134401:09:45.279 --> 01:09:48.319



something new and different for me coming from comedy, this134501:09:48.520 --> 01:09:54.840



is like, you know, something I've never done before, and and.134601:09:54.920 --> 01:09:57.479



Yeah, I I was. I was thrilled to work with134701:09:57.520 --> 01:09:59.119



these amazing actors.134801:09:59.399 --> 01:10:03.000



How about for you, I read the book, but but this,134901:10:03.479 --> 01:10:06.359



you know, the script is just like the the thing135001:10:06.399 --> 01:10:07.119



you're going off of.135101:10:07.159 --> 01:10:09.359



At no point of you, like, you know, Megan in135201:10:09.399 --> 01:10:10.920



the book, it says.135301:10:10.439 --> 01:10:13.439



Like, you know, but it weren't similarities, that's right.135401:10:13.520 --> 01:10:16.920



Yes, there's discrepancies between the material, yes.135501:10:18.000 --> 01:10:18.720



But not to know that.135601:10:22.000 --> 01:10:25.640



But but there's like there will be Like a good135701:10:25.640 --> 01:10:31.359



example is in the book, Peter is like fifteen years135801:10:31.399 --> 01:10:34.880



older than Marissa, and so then there's this kind of135901:10:36.000 --> 01:10:41.880



like paternal aspect and this kind of generational difference between136001:10:42.720 --> 01:10:46.880



Marissa and Leah and Colin, and then Peter is sort136101:10:46.880 --> 01:10:51.800



of removed from that in a way, and his really136201:10:51.880 --> 01:10:56.079



his point of view on Colin is very clear in136301:10:56.159 --> 01:11:01.680



the book that Peter is like, why is this dead136401:11:01.720 --> 01:11:07.640



weight hanging around my family? And that wasn't as clear136501:11:07.760 --> 01:11:11.000



early on in the scripts, but it was nice to136601:11:11.079 --> 01:11:13.760



have that information because it does come out later that136701:11:13.800 --> 01:11:17.560



Peter's point of view on Colin is like, you're a loser,136801:11:18.159 --> 01:11:21.840



Like why are you involved with anyone in my circle?136901:11:22.399 --> 01:11:25.159



You're dragging them down. And so to have that.137001:11:24.960 --> 01:11:27.720



Little piece to even if it's just a look or137101:11:27.760 --> 01:11:29.640



in the back of my mind and doesn't wind up137201:11:29.640 --> 01:11:33.479



in the edit like that vibe will affect something where137301:11:33.520 --> 01:11:36.359



the dominoes kind of make sense as they fall later.137401:11:37.079 --> 01:11:41.279



But but yeah, it's just it's like those little things137501:11:41.279 --> 01:11:44.039



he blew it. What I'm trying to do is nag you.137601:11:44.680 --> 01:11:46.479



And we could go back in time.137701:11:46.680 --> 01:11:51.439



Let's just so I guess.137801:11:51.520 --> 01:11:52.920



I guess I wouldn't know because.137901:11:52.640 --> 01:11:54.359



I well, I was.138001:11:56.199 --> 01:11:56.720



Told not to.138101:11:56.880 --> 01:11:58.159



That's that's all I'm gonna say.138201:11:58.399 --> 01:12:00.600



No, I got you, And it was clear that this138301:12:00.760 --> 01:12:01.560



was a different thing.138401:12:02.520 --> 01:12:06.279



But project, and you know, one of the things I138501:12:06.319 --> 01:12:09.680



was going to ask the both of you. Is uh138601:12:09.720 --> 01:12:11.840



and I am you're kind of answering it now in138701:12:11.880 --> 01:12:15.960



between your interaction, but it is, you know, a heavy project.138801:12:16.279 --> 01:12:17.960



Did you have moments of a levity?138901:12:18.000 --> 01:12:20.159



Which I think in the last five minutes you guys139001:12:20.199 --> 01:12:22.239



have shown me there there may have been a time139101:12:22.319 --> 01:12:25.920



or two that uh that you found did you did139201:12:25.920 --> 01:12:29.079



you grasp on to those moments? You know, those funny139301:12:29.199 --> 01:12:34.399



moments between each other, you know the cast, uh, because139401:12:34.399 --> 01:12:37.960



it is heavy material, yeah, or is it like cut139501:12:38.000 --> 01:12:42.800



and then you're like, you know, it's a party. No.139601:12:42.920 --> 01:12:44.880



I think that there were some days where we kind139701:12:44.880 --> 01:12:49.239



of sat in it and you know, especially kind of139801:12:50.199 --> 01:12:54.560



you know, in the beginning one of the first kind139901:12:54.600 --> 01:12:58.840



of scenes, well, I guess it's yeah, we went chronologically,140001:12:59.000 --> 01:13:02.600



and but but the stuff in the house we shot later.140101:13:02.840 --> 01:13:06.680



So like all the kind of setting things up that140201:13:06.840 --> 01:13:08.800



we shot first, and that was really great because we140301:13:08.880 --> 01:13:10.880



got to know each other and got to know the cast,140401:13:11.000 --> 01:13:14.439



and then like the stuff where we're all together in140501:13:14.479 --> 01:13:18.279



the house that was shot later, and that those scenes140601:13:18.279 --> 01:13:21.520



were a little more tense because that's when the revelations140701:13:21.560 --> 01:13:26.319



start kind of unfolding. And and but you know, as parent,140801:13:26.479 --> 01:13:31.000



like I'm a parent, Jake is a parent, and to140901:13:31.159 --> 01:13:33.720



have like to cut and to be able to have141001:13:34.279 --> 01:13:37.680



you know, that friendship kind of already formed, and you know,141101:13:37.960 --> 01:13:41.039



to know when to joke around and to know when Okay,141201:13:41.600 --> 01:13:44.119



Abby's like really in it right now she's like having141301:13:44.119 --> 01:13:45.199



trouble with that scene or whatever.141401:13:45.199 --> 01:13:47.880



I'm not going to like bother her, and like.141501:13:48.159 --> 01:13:50.840



You know, like the that's like the primary thing I141601:13:50.880 --> 01:13:54.640



think is like reading the room. Yeah, if somebody's got141701:13:55.000 --> 01:13:58.119



you know, some of these scenes really are a small141801:13:58.199 --> 01:14:00.760



piece in setting up this very heavy story, but the141901:14:00.800 --> 01:14:05.159



actual scene itself is not particularly heavy or dramatic, and142001:14:05.199 --> 01:14:08.239



so you handle that one way and then other days142101:14:08.279 --> 01:14:11.560



it's like, oh, someone really has to like hit this thing.142201:14:11.680 --> 01:14:13.680



It's very specific, it's emotional.142301:14:13.760 --> 01:14:16.119



It's all that you just want to like give people142401:14:16.119 --> 01:14:18.880



their space to do their work and read the room142501:14:18.920 --> 01:14:20.680



and kind of follow their lead.142601:14:20.520 --> 01:14:22.279



In that moment to go like do you want to142701:14:22.920 --> 01:14:25.079



mess around in between or is that helpful to just142801:14:25.159 --> 01:14:26.079



kind of raise off.142901:14:26.000 --> 01:14:27.720



A little or do you want to be left alone?143001:14:27.760 --> 01:14:31.319



And you know, yeah, and also for me at least,143101:14:31.359 --> 01:14:36.079



like I want to it's a lot of I just143201:14:36.119 --> 01:14:36.640



keep saying this.143301:14:36.680 --> 01:14:39.039



I sound like I'm just whining about takes, but like143401:14:39.359 --> 01:14:41.920



it's a lot of takes. It's a lot of coverage143501:14:41.960 --> 01:14:46.039



to get like a wide, a three shot, a two shot,143601:14:46.159 --> 01:14:49.600



a tight to a single an ECU. Like you're doing143701:14:49.640 --> 01:14:54.199



a lot of takes and to stay like it's happening143801:14:54.239 --> 01:14:59.560



the first time. For me, I want some like levity143901:14:59.600 --> 01:15:02.880



and create activity and joking around in between because it144001:15:02.960 --> 01:15:05.920



keeps my brain, it keeps my energy up.144101:15:06.239 --> 01:15:07.760



And you're trying to keep like.144201:15:07.680 --> 01:15:12.159



The emotional life alive but maybe not full, and then144301:15:12.279 --> 01:15:15.600



also just be like responding organically so that you're.144401:15:15.479 --> 01:15:18.119



Not I don't know.144501:15:18.880 --> 01:15:21.960



Yeah, he takes where you're like, I don't know, you144601:15:22.079 --> 01:15:24.159



think you've really hit something, but then you watch it144701:15:24.199 --> 01:15:25.880



back and you go just looks like an actor who's144801:15:25.920 --> 01:15:30.119



like really into their own crying, which that's pretty boring.144901:15:30.640 --> 01:15:33.039



So you know, you want to like find this balance145001:15:33.079 --> 01:15:37.039



of how to keep it full emotionally and alive at145101:15:37.039 --> 01:15:37.640



the same time.145201:15:38.000 --> 01:15:40.880



Yeah, thank you both so much.145301:15:40.920 --> 01:15:43.399



I can't wait for everybody to see it, so, like145401:15:43.439 --> 01:15:44.960



I said, I can finally talk about it.145501:15:45.000 --> 01:15:46.239



I really appreciate you both.145601:15:46.680 --> 01:15:47.960



Dude, thank you so much.145701:15:48.119 --> 01:15:49.359



Nice talking to you.145801:15:49.359 --> 01:15:51.199



You as well, have a good day. Thank you.145901:15:51.640 --> 01:16:00.880



Thanks Abby Elliott and Jake Lucy if that weren't We've146001:16:00.880 --> 01:16:03.920



also got Sarah Snook and Dakota Fanning to round out146101:16:03.920 --> 01:16:09.279



this absolute marathon of an episode to powerhouses, to legends,146201:16:09.760 --> 01:16:12.479



and two people who have their lives together way more146301:16:12.520 --> 01:16:12.920



than I do.146401:16:13.079 --> 01:16:17.479



So let's dive right in. Sarah Snook and Dakota Fanning,146501:16:19.920 --> 01:16:22.399



thank you both for joining me. I really appreciate it.146601:16:24.239 --> 01:16:28.439



So the series, first of all, congratulations, it really is incredible,146701:16:28.640 --> 01:16:31.359



and I wonder especially for you.146801:16:31.399 --> 01:16:34.960



I'll start with you, Sarah, being a.146901:16:35.000 --> 01:16:40.359



Parent, did this you know, kind of have even heavier147001:16:40.520 --> 01:16:44.239



weight than maybe another role did as you're filming.147101:16:45.079 --> 01:16:48.960



Yeah, it definitely gave me an insight track to what147201:16:48.960 --> 01:16:52.199



it would feel like to lose your child, because.147301:16:51.920 --> 01:16:53.600



All of a sudden, I have one to lose.147401:16:54.840 --> 01:16:57.039



So yeah, I would say that definitely there's a there's147501:16:57.039 --> 01:17:01.039



a there's a deep feeling and a ignition of what147601:17:01.079 --> 01:17:06.159



it would be like to have your child disappear. But imaginatively,147701:17:06.199 --> 01:17:09.640



I really had to separate her from my experience on147801:17:09.760 --> 01:17:14.239



set because useful to draw on, but not useful to147901:17:14.319 --> 01:17:16.640



have in the moment too much.148001:17:16.720 --> 01:17:16.920



You know.148101:17:17.720 --> 01:17:22.239



Yeah, And Dakota for you, you know, you are playing148201:17:22.279 --> 01:17:22.840



this kind.148301:17:22.720 --> 01:17:25.920



Of support person, and.148401:17:27.520 --> 01:17:31.119



How do you draw from that for you know, as148501:17:31.159 --> 01:17:35.279



you're preparing to dive into the character, you know, do148601:17:35.359 --> 01:17:38.479



you do it as okay? You know, do you take148701:17:38.520 --> 01:17:41.680



from your your close relationships like, oh, if this was148801:17:41.720 --> 01:17:43.399



my best friend, this is what I would do, Like148901:17:43.399 --> 01:17:44.920



how does that process work for you?149001:17:46.279 --> 01:17:58.039



Well, Kyle, I think you're describing out Yeah, you know,149101:17:58.159 --> 01:18:03.439



I mean being in any any character, any story. You Yeah,149201:18:03.520 --> 01:18:06.359



you draw from what's useful from your own experience. But149301:18:06.640 --> 01:18:09.520



you know, sometimes you're you're playing someone who's at a149401:18:09.520 --> 01:18:11.439



different stage in their life or a different kind of149501:18:11.439 --> 01:18:15.000



personality or whatever. So yeah, you draw on, like Sarah said,149601:18:15.039 --> 01:18:18.000



the things that are helpful from from your own experiences.149701:18:18.039 --> 01:18:20.720



And then being an actor is really about just having149801:18:20.760 --> 01:18:24.840



like a wild imagination and being able to just imagine149901:18:24.880 --> 01:18:34.000



these scenarios however intense or crazy or otherworldly or paranormal150001:18:34.199 --> 01:18:36.560



or you know, I mean all all kinds of different things,150101:18:36.640 --> 01:18:43.680



and just yeah, being being really like immersed in the150201:18:43.760 --> 01:18:48.600



script and the story and the and tracking all the relationships,150301:18:48.720 --> 01:18:50.720



especially in something like this which just has kind of150401:18:50.760 --> 01:18:54.640



a thriller or mystery element you're you're sort of always150501:18:56.399 --> 01:18:59.960



orientating yourself about, like, Okay, who knows what I know150601:19:00.199 --> 01:19:02.600



this yet? This hasn't been revealed yet, you know, so150701:19:02.960 --> 01:19:05.000



it becomes a little technical in that way too.150801:19:05.039 --> 01:19:07.199



It's like, oh, I haven't been told that yet. Never mind,150901:19:07.199 --> 01:19:09.039



like I shouldn't have said that line that way.151001:19:09.119 --> 01:19:09.279



You know.151101:19:09.399 --> 01:19:12.760



It's it's so you know, you're thinking about all kinds151201:19:12.760 --> 01:19:16.880



of things, and yeah, using what's helpful from your own life,151301:19:16.880 --> 01:19:19.680



and then also just you know, making stuff up too,151401:19:20.560 --> 01:19:21.119



And do.151501:19:21.039 --> 01:19:24.520



You did you did either of you read the source151601:19:24.600 --> 01:19:25.760



material first?151701:19:26.239 --> 01:19:29.720



And if so, did you find that helpful or not?151801:19:30.840 --> 01:19:31.039



Yeah?151901:19:31.079 --> 01:19:33.880



I read the book beforehand, and in sort of in152001:19:34.119 --> 01:19:36.920



part of signing on to the project, I read the152101:19:36.960 --> 01:19:40.159



book and it was great. It was useful actually because152201:19:40.159 --> 01:19:43.239



it helped as a and Andrea was very keen to152301:19:43.359 --> 01:19:46.359



let us elaborate and expand the world of the book.152401:19:47.079 --> 01:19:50.359



And so the book exists in a in a as152501:19:50.399 --> 01:19:53.000



its original form, obviously, but then we've taken it further.152601:19:53.039 --> 01:19:56.000



We've we've explored a lot of the more social themes152701:19:56.000 --> 01:19:59.319



in there. We've we've developed more characters, we've changed a152801:19:59.399 --> 01:20:01.720



bunch of the care a little bit where Brian is152901:20:01.760 --> 01:20:06.039



slightly different and Colin is slightly different, and that's that's153001:20:06.159 --> 01:20:07.640



nice because you get to you.153101:20:07.640 --> 01:20:08.279



Have a real.153201:20:09.640 --> 01:20:12.079



Firm foundation and then you can leap off from it.153301:20:13.439 --> 01:20:13.920



I love that.153401:20:14.039 --> 01:20:16.439



Thank you both so much. I can't wait for everybody153501:20:16.479 --> 01:20:19.399



to see this. I really appreciate your time. Thanks Chyle,153601:20:19.720 --> 01:20:21.479



thank you, and I've learned about acting.153701:20:24.560 --> 01:20:31.319



Take care. Thank you, Sarah Snook and Dakota Fannie.153801:20:33.439 --> 01:20:36.760



All Her Faults is streaming right now in Peacock and153901:20:36.800 --> 01:20:39.520



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