HALLOWEEN 2023! LVCRFT & Valerie Complex (Deadline) Talk Horror & Halloween Movies!

WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.240 --> 00:00:05.360 In this special Halloween twenty twenty three edition of pop Culture Weekly, I talk 2 00:00:05.440 --> 00:00:11.199 with Valerie Complex from Deadline all about horror movies today and then once again I 3 00:00:11.279 --> 00:00:17.800 bring back Lovecraft to talk about their brand new album. Let's go. Welcome 4 00:00:18.079 --> 00:00:24.120 to pop Culture Weekly with Kyle McMahon from iHeartRadio your pop culture news, views, 5 00:00:24.359 --> 00:00:29.079 reviews and celebrity interviews on all the movies, TV, music and pop 6 00:00:29.079 --> 00:00:38.799 culture u crabe Weekly. Here's Kyle mcmahonner no Nonerner. Hello, Welcome to 7 00:00:38.840 --> 00:00:42.320 pop Culture Weekly with Kyle McMahon. I of course am Kyle McMahon and I 8 00:00:42.320 --> 00:00:45.359 am so happy. You know, this is my favorite time of the year. 9 00:00:45.479 --> 00:00:49.840 Halloween is my favorite holiday, my favorite day of the year, and 10 00:00:49.960 --> 00:00:56.119 so I always look forward to it and this episode in particular. Today once 11 00:00:56.159 --> 00:01:00.520 again Lovecraft is back and we talk about their brand new album, which I 12 00:01:00.560 --> 00:01:07.359 can't wait to discuss. And from Deadlinehollywood Deadline dot Com, Valerie Complex joins 13 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:12.799 me. She is an associate editor and film writer with Deadline and a horror 14 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:17.560 fan and she's a badass girl. Let me tell you that love her. 15 00:01:18.120 --> 00:01:22.040 So without further ado, let's just get right into it. Okay, let's 16 00:01:22.079 --> 00:01:26.239 just get to the good stuff. Here we go, Valerie Complex. So 17 00:01:27.319 --> 00:01:33.079 I am here with the one and only Valerie Complex. She is awesome. 18 00:01:33.159 --> 00:01:38.400 She is an associate editor and film writer at Deadline, which, as I've 19 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:42.239 talked about all the time on the show, my go to resource for breaking 20 00:01:42.280 --> 00:01:48.439 news in Hollywood and beyond. Thank you so much for joining me, Valerie. 21 00:01:48.439 --> 00:01:52.560 I really appreciate it. Thank you for having me much appreciate it. 22 00:01:52.680 --> 00:01:56.599 Of course, I feel like this has been like months in the making because 23 00:01:56.680 --> 00:02:01.359 it has. Right, Life happened and schedules don't aligne sometimes, so it's 24 00:02:01.400 --> 00:02:07.879 all good. Yeah. And you are a busy, busy person with the 25 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:14.280 all the award award shows, film circuits, film festival circuits and all that 26 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:17.080 good stuff. You are highly in demand, so I really appreciate you chilling 27 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:22.240 with me for a little bit. So we are talking. We're in my 28 00:02:22.400 --> 00:02:24.919 favorite month of the year, leading up to my favorite day of the year, 29 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:30.599 my favorite holiday, and that is Halloween. And you and I are 30 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:38.719 big horror film genre film people. And that's how you got your start into 31 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:40.840 journalism, right I was, Yeah, that's how I got involved. I 32 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:50.280 was covering mostly horror and science fiction on the now defunct movie Pilot website. 33 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:54.719 I don't know if anybody remembers. I remember there, and then you know, 34 00:02:55.680 --> 00:03:00.000 moved up from there. I started writing for genre sites like a GS, 35 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:04.360 The nerdst Black Girl Nerds and things of that nature, and that was, 36 00:03:04.439 --> 00:03:06.639 you know, and then I you know, wrote for Io nine, 37 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:09.639 which is a big sci fi or so I so that was fun. I 38 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:15.520 wasn't always like straight laced, you know, right right? Yeah, you 39 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:19.639 know, randomly, what is your favorite if you can pick one your favorite 40 00:03:19.719 --> 00:03:24.879 horror movie of the year or just in general, just in general. That's 41 00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:29.759 hard because you know, you have a film that's your favorite when you're younger. 42 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:30.759 As you get older, you're like, wow, does this trash? 43 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:36.360 And so yeah. So many, like very little have held up. But 44 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:39.439 if I have to talk about one that's held up even into adulthood, I 45 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:43.759 would have to say the exorsis ooh, that's a good woman. And it's 46 00:03:43.800 --> 00:03:47.000 what the fortieth anniversary this year. Yeah, And I know it's like a 47 00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:53.319 super you know, regular answer and kind of cliche it at this point, 48 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:55.120 but it's only one that I can think of that has been like, oh 49 00:03:55.199 --> 00:03:58.759 wow, this held up. Yeah, So let me talk about letterbox, 50 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:03.439 because I may have an option and there that I didn't think of, But 51 00:04:03.639 --> 00:04:09.560 I would say the exercise what about you? I would probably say the Original 52 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:14.680 Halloween. I'd say the Original Halloween for whatever reason. I don't know if 53 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:17.439 it's part nostalgia or what, but as a horror movie, you know, 54 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:23.199 I think it's still really effective. Just the score and just everything kind of 55 00:04:23.240 --> 00:04:29.720 comes together to be really creepy, even today for me. Okay, so 56 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:34.000 now some more are sort of rolling off the rolling, you know, out 57 00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:40.279 of my head, and so I'm thinking about like the ring to the Japanese. 58 00:04:42.040 --> 00:04:48.560 I really liked a film called It's called Cairo in Japanese, but it's 59 00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:55.879 the Japanese, Okay. So in America it's called Pulse. In Japan is 60 00:04:55.959 --> 00:05:00.920 called Cairo. Okay. That's a really awesome movie that sort of stands up 61 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:10.639 against time. And let's see. Uh. I liked Midsmar. I know 62 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:14.319 that's like a oh boy. Can we talk about that for a second. 63 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:20.600 Yes, So I first of all, I love the writer director. Secondly, 64 00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:28.399 I still to this day I love A twenty four and almost everything that 65 00:05:28.399 --> 00:05:33.160 they've ever released. I was in the theater and I remember when it ended 66 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:38.560 I said to myself, and I still feel this way today. I don't 67 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:44.199 know if that was the worst thing I've ever seen or the best thing I've 68 00:05:44.199 --> 00:05:47.560 ever seen, And today today I'm still I still feel that way. I 69 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:51.439 think a lot of people feel that sort of the sort of you know, 70 00:05:53.360 --> 00:05:57.800 confusion about that film, and I don't blame them. You know, It's 71 00:05:57.800 --> 00:06:00.160 just it's just an extremely divisive film, and I don't think I realized that 72 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:04.079 until much much later after it came out, and you know, you talk 73 00:06:04.160 --> 00:06:08.199 to people in your own enthusiastic and then like, I fucking hate that movie. 74 00:06:08.839 --> 00:06:14.480 Oh okay, nice. I felt the same way about Mother from uh 75 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:18.720 who was it, Darren was or whatever? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 76 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:21.319 I felt the same way. I was like at the end of the movie, 77 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:25.959 I'm like, what the fuck is that? And then I'm like, 78 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:29.720 but wait a second. You know, I started thinking about what it represents 79 00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:34.000 and like the whole Adam and Eve and you know, uh that that kind 80 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:39.600 of you know, deep meaning behind it. And then I'm like, well, 81 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:43.959 that's also kind of genius, but like, what the hell did I 82 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:46.680 just watch? It was just I feel the same way about those two movies, 83 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:51.279 actually, and I think we often forget about like the you know, 84 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:57.879 the horror films that cross genres, like Event Horizon. It wasn't a very 85 00:06:57.920 --> 00:07:00.160 popular film when it came out in ninety seven, but it's become sort of 86 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:04.240 a cult classic, you know, blending sci fi and horror together, which 87 00:07:04.279 --> 00:07:11.879 I thought was a great film. If you look at if you're looking at 88 00:07:11.920 --> 00:07:16.600 action horror, there's I don't really have I guess what is the name of 89 00:07:16.600 --> 00:07:23.040 that movie, Overlord, Oh with the like Nazi thing. Yeah, yeah, 90 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:28.439 yeah, have your your your action sort of or like Dawn of the 91 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:33.040 Dead, which would be like action horror, and you know, you have 92 00:07:34.040 --> 00:07:41.879 your more traditional horror films like The Witch, which I really liked, or 93 00:07:42.040 --> 00:07:46.360 like Pitch Black, which a lot of people don't talk about. But I 94 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:49.959 still think that like one of Ben Diesel's best performances and probably one of the 95 00:07:49.959 --> 00:07:57.240 best movies he's been in because it comes from a really creative angle. It 96 00:07:57.399 --> 00:08:01.079 did something we didn't see before. What is it like to be an anti 97 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:07.079 hero in this situation? So really really good stuff. I really liked Tales 98 00:08:07.079 --> 00:08:11.639 from the Hood nineteen ninety five. Yes, that's at one a big sort 99 00:08:11.680 --> 00:08:16.160 of classic. Let's see, I'm looking at my list here. I love 100 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:18.360 the Omen. I think the Omen is still pretty creepy to this day. 101 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:26.399 Oh yeah, he remake the original nineteen version. And let's see some other 102 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:31.200 ones. Have you ever seen movie Demons? Not Night of the Demons, 103 00:08:31.799 --> 00:08:35.840 but Demons? I think this is this a Dario Argento movie? I think? 104 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:39.200 So? Mm Okay, I know I haven't, but I know I 105 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:46.559 think I know exactly what you're talking about. It takes in a movie theater 106 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:52.360 and everybody turns into monsters and everybody's trying to get out, and it takes 107 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:58.000 place in Italy. Okay, now, so so I should watch that one. 108 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:05.200 I would. I would watch it by Limberto Baba. So not Daria 109 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:13.519 Argentle but Daria our Gentle Light. Yeah. Oh gosh, I'm just looking 110 00:09:13.559 --> 00:09:18.759 at my list and just seeing what about Sorry, oh no, no, 111 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:24.200 you're totally fine. Creep showed the original original. That's a great one. 112 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:30.200 Everything will most likely be original. I don't. Remakes are rarely good to 113 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:35.519 me. So well, let me ask you, Suspira. Am I saying 114 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:41.639 it Rightspiria? Yes? Actually? Okay, so like you, you just 115 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:46.320 turn me into a hypocrite because I was going to say that the remake of 116 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:52.600 Suspiria is better than the originals. Yes, that is my list because that 117 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:56.559 was a It was a really it was shocking because I actually didn't know what 118 00:09:56.720 --> 00:10:01.080 to expect going in, and I had a really faded memory of what the 119 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:07.120 original was like mm hmm. But seeing this version was like, oh shit, 120 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:18.279 like like Luca Guandnino turned this into something right right? Uh crap? 121 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:26.039 Oh are you in New York or law York? Okay, So there is 122 00:10:26.360 --> 00:10:30.759 a haunt haunted attraction. I don't know if it's open still, but at 123 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:33.919 least as a few as of a few years ago, it was called uh 124 00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:41.279 sleep No More in New York hm hm. And it is not really a 125 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:48.600 traditional haunted house. Everybody has to wear a mask, there's no phones. 126 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:54.799 You uh go in with whoever you came with. That's it. So I 127 00:10:54.840 --> 00:11:00.360 went by myself because I was doing a piece for Huffington Post and and so 128 00:11:00.440 --> 00:11:07.559 they put you in by yourself and you wear these masks that every single mask 129 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:11.279 is the same, so it's all very anonymous, and it takes place in 130 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:18.159 a it's in a like kind of an old hotel. It is just it's 131 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:24.320 very interactive. So there's all these things going on in different rooms and halls, 132 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:28.159 and maybe an you know, an actor who you don't know as a 133 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:31.480 guest, or an actor takes your hand and pulls you into a room. 134 00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:35.600 And this is what happened to me. Somebody took me into a room. 135 00:11:37.840 --> 00:11:43.480 In this room, there was just a chair and there was like a light 136 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:50.279 bulb hanging from like a string or whatever above the chair, really really creepy. 137 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:54.080 And she sat me down and then like went like this, like wait 138 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:58.519 a second, and then left the room and in behind me it was all 139 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:01.799 dark, and so I'm like, is there somebody behind me? I'm like 140 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:09.080 looking around, and I mean it was just weird and eerie and disturbing. 141 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:15.200 That's what Suspiria. It was. It felt like the movie version of Suspiria. 142 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:20.600 I mean the it felt like the real life version of Suspiria. Really 143 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:24.159 really cool. If anybody's in New York and Sleep No More is still going, 144 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:26.360 which I hope it is, I should probably look it up real quick. 145 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:31.480 It looks like it is oh awesome. It is really really well worth 146 00:12:33.320 --> 00:12:41.440 checking out. Oh yeah, the McKittrick Hotel mckitchrickcotel dot com. Sleep No 147 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:46.840 More in New York. It is really really disturbingly weird. It's not like 148 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:52.039 a haunt where you leave because I'm a big Hona Attraction fan. It's not 149 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:54.759 like a haunt that you leave and you're like, oh my god, that 150 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:56.919 was so scary and fun and blah blah blah. This is like in your 151 00:12:58.039 --> 00:13:03.440 head like well after you leave. It's very strange, and they encourage you, 152 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:05.480 you know, if you're in a room, look through you know, 153 00:13:05.559 --> 00:13:13.320 the drawers or whatever, and it's just incredible. So uh, Suspiria actually, 154 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:16.519 you know, for me, is like the movie version of Sleep No 155 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:20.960 More well worth it if you're a HANT fan in New York. And I 156 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:22.360 took a friend with me. I remember taking a front with me to a 157 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:28.000 press screening and we were just like what, you know, what exactly are 158 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:33.519 we going to be getting into? And it wasn't until like the one scene 159 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:37.759 with old girl twisting inside out. Oh snap, we we're really in for 160 00:13:37.879 --> 00:13:43.639 something here. Yeah. Yeah, it delivered. Yeah, And that was 161 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:50.159 another you know work Suspiria that isn't just like oh that was so scary and 162 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:54.559 good like and you know, now I'm onto the next thing. That was 163 00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:56.639 one that like kind of stuck with me where I'm like thinking about it later, 164 00:13:56.759 --> 00:14:01.519 you know, like it's kind of just weird and stays with you. 165 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:05.919 And I think that that's the key to horror, right, like finding a 166 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:13.039 movie that sticks with you long after you've left the theater. And you know, 167 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:20.200 you have some films that sit like outside the genre but can be considered 168 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:31.320 like Horror Light Kristen Stewart Spencer, or films like Come and See, or 169 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:37.279 you know, there are films that are out there, you know, dramas 170 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:43.799 and thrillers that deployed a lot of horror tactics. Yeah. Wes Craven's Red 171 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:46.120 Eye, for example, is one of those. Haven't seen the Red Eye? 172 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:50.600 Oh wait? Is that with what's her name? On the plane? 173 00:14:50.559 --> 00:14:54.080 Yes? Yes, okay, I did see that. Yeah, yeah, 174 00:14:54.159 --> 00:15:00.600 that is one that Yeah, I enjoy those kinds of film as well. 175 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:05.399 Or like The Neon Demon, which is another devisive one. Yes, you 176 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:09.159 know sort of sits outside the horror genre, but you see a lot of 177 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:16.000 elements posted there. Mm hmm. Last Night and Soho was almost like that 178 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:20.320 for me. I believe that's what it's called. Yes, And I think 179 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:26.120 last Night a Soho was touted as true horror, which I disagreed with. 180 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:28.879 Right, it's kind of like horror light or horror ish or something. Yeah, 181 00:15:28.879 --> 00:15:35.960 it's horror ish. It deploys Giallo elements you know of horror. But 182 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:39.120 it wasn't like, oh my god, I'm so scared, right, I 183 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:43.360 can't sleep that night? Right, exactly? What about? So? I 184 00:15:43.559 --> 00:15:48.279 just created a list on on letterbox, which I I love letterbox, and 185 00:15:48.279 --> 00:15:54.759 you and I were just talking about our our letterbox accounts. I created a 186 00:15:54.759 --> 00:16:00.799 list best films for October and Halloween, and I had a when I created 187 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:06.279 it. In my mind, I didn't want to do my favorite horror movies, 188 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:10.279 you know what I mean. I wanted to do, like, what 189 00:16:10.360 --> 00:16:18.480 are the best Halloween slash October films? Which I feel like somebody listening or 190 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:22.639 may think, well, what's the difference, Like there are horror movies that 191 00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:29.879 I feel like, or even films in general that like you gotta watch during 192 00:16:29.879 --> 00:16:33.279 October or or on a Halloween night or something when you're like, oh, 193 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:38.399 what you know, let's just chill and watch movies tonight. So I created 194 00:16:38.399 --> 00:16:42.080 a it's called best Films for October and Halloween, and of course my name 195 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:49.679 on letterbox Kyle McMahon and yours is v complex and follow us on letterbox. 196 00:16:51.000 --> 00:16:52.559 So just some of mine. I'm just you know, obviously not going to 197 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:57.279 go through all of them, but like I even put like Casper on there, 198 00:16:57.399 --> 00:17:02.200 the original or yep, or maybe it's not the original, but then 199 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:06.000 like ninety five one, like I feel like that's like a great movie to 200 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:10.599 watch during October. There's just something about it. I don't know if it's 201 00:17:10.599 --> 00:17:15.359 like the childhood thing for me. Another one's hocus Pocus, which is a 202 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:19.160 I freaking love hocus Pocus, and I have friends that are like, oh, 203 00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:22.880 you know, over time it's like gotten cheesier. But then it have 204 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:27.079 people like me that are like just obsessed, like it's just become better over 205 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:30.480 time. And it's just some of the other ones off, you know, 206 00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:34.039 just randomly kind of and feel free to jump in if you have any thoughts 207 00:17:34.039 --> 00:17:37.839 on any of these. But Elvira Mistress of the Dark, obviously for many 208 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:41.319 it's a big one I used to watch as a kid, like yes, 209 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:45.039 yes, she religiously as a child exactly, and I don't know if you've 210 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:51.839 seen it lately, but it's just Elvira is very timeless in general for me, 211 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:55.480 you know, I mean even her whole stick and you know she's been 212 00:17:55.519 --> 00:18:00.200 on the show numerous times, and I love this about her that you know, 213 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:07.240 she's dressed as what like a you know, kind of a universally universal 214 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:15.599 monster sort of character. However, she's here whatever time that is, you 215 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:18.799 know, if you're watching it today, it's in the present or whatever. 216 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:25.519 And Mistress of the Dark really does hold up for me in that kitchy sort 217 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:32.839 of set set here what's the word satiric, satirical like manner, and she's 218 00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:37.039 got that you know, that charm and uh and humor that It's just one 219 00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:42.519 of those that every October I'm going to watch Elvira and then I have things 220 00:18:42.599 --> 00:18:47.279 like actually creep shows on my list. Ernest Scared Stupid. That's another kind 221 00:18:47.319 --> 00:18:52.519 of throwback one for me. That's that's you know, we're not gonna I 222 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:56.519 would hope somebody watching Ernest Scared Stupid isn't like Kyle this. You know, 223 00:18:56.599 --> 00:19:00.440 the direction was awful and the writing had plotholes, like I get, but 224 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:04.720 it is for me very enjoyable and I love it and a lot of that 225 00:19:04.839 --> 00:19:10.759 is the nostalgic value, but it's just a fun Halloween Movie, even Halloween 226 00:19:10.799 --> 00:19:14.640 Town. Have you ever seen any of those? No? Okay, so 227 00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:19.119 they're like a Disney ish I think it was like Disney Channel or something very 228 00:19:19.559 --> 00:19:23.359 you know. Debbie Reynolds starred, and they all live in this Halloween Town 229 00:19:23.519 --> 00:19:27.799 and it says, you know on the synopsis is on her thirteenth birthday, 230 00:19:27.880 --> 00:19:32.319 Marni learns she's a witch, discovers a secret portal, and is transferred to 231 00:19:32.359 --> 00:19:34.720 Halloween Town, a magical place where ghosts and ghules, which is where Wove 232 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:38.519 lives live apart from the human world. It's just one of those like kind 233 00:19:38.559 --> 00:19:44.559 of kitchy, like I'm gonna put this on and feel good sort of things, 234 00:19:44.599 --> 00:19:48.839 you know. But then I have things like Trick or Treat. I 235 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:52.759 want to know your thoughts on Trick or Treat? Have you seen it? 236 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:56.200 I'm gonna laugh, but I've never seen it before. What I haven't seen 237 00:19:56.240 --> 00:20:00.799 Trick or Treat? And my friend has been trying to get me to watch 238 00:20:00.839 --> 00:20:04.319 Ginger Snaps and I started off. I started it, and then I was 239 00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:11.759 like, let me just maybe maybe I'm just tired, like reconnect with it, 240 00:20:11.839 --> 00:20:18.720 and I'm going at some point my introduction to horror was never those things 241 00:20:19.079 --> 00:20:22.240 I didn't discover, like Halloween Town or anything like that. And love was 242 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:26.799 in my twenties. My dad would take me to see like Nightmare on Elm 243 00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:32.640 Street as a five year old, or you know, Friday the thirteenth. 244 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:37.559 He was like, let's get fully immersed in this business. And my mom 245 00:20:37.640 --> 00:20:40.640 says this because you know, he used to take her to see horror films 246 00:20:40.640 --> 00:20:44.519 when she was pregnant with me, and so you know, I U said, 247 00:20:44.559 --> 00:20:47.000 I was at the theater and I'd be all into it and everything and 248 00:20:47.039 --> 00:20:49.400 they get home be scared, which is true. But I was like five 249 00:20:49.480 --> 00:20:52.880 six years old. You know, at nine years old, my dad took 250 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:56.799 me to see Candy Man. He took me Wow, Angel Heart, which 251 00:20:56.839 --> 00:21:02.240 is like not appropriate for child, these things like Serpent in the Rainbow and 252 00:21:02.279 --> 00:21:07.200 all that, and so you know, it wasn't until like later that I 253 00:21:07.319 --> 00:21:10.559 discovered like, oh, there are these things for kids. I mean I 254 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:15.559 used to read Goosebumps and stuff like that. Graduated very you know early to 255 00:21:17.359 --> 00:21:22.920 reading an author called Christopher Pike who used to write like hy a violent ya 256 00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:29.680 like horror, okay, reading stuff like The Stand and Power. At fourteen, 257 00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:32.599 like you know, what I mean, or it was different for me, 258 00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:34.519 so like focus, focus and all that and see until I was an 259 00:21:34.559 --> 00:21:41.519 adult, right right, And like when I think of like perfect Halloween movies, 260 00:21:41.839 --> 00:21:47.559 I you know, it always depends on what's going on in my life 261 00:21:47.559 --> 00:21:49.480 at that time. I might watch a bunch of horror comedy like Seawan of 262 00:21:49.559 --> 00:21:56.960 the Dead and and Acol or you know, if I'm feeling for the classics, 263 00:21:56.039 --> 00:22:00.000 I'll just watch, you know, the Pantheon of horror. Watch some 264 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:04.680 Candy Man, even though those movies suck. I might watch Friday the Thirteenth, 265 00:22:04.759 --> 00:22:11.440 even though most of those sucked to you know, Freddy Jason, Michael, 266 00:22:12.279 --> 00:22:18.680 the Evil Dead, stuff like that. Yeah, So I always feel 267 00:22:18.720 --> 00:22:25.440 like that those are those are sort of a good place to start if you're 268 00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:27.680 looking just for something random to do, when you can always go into your 269 00:22:27.720 --> 00:22:36.759 genre things or you know, pick if you're you know whatever. I've been 270 00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:42.279 trying to get into animated horror recently, not really just Japanese anime, but 271 00:22:42.400 --> 00:22:48.799 just you know, seeing where the horror elements lie. So watching stuff like 272 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:55.000 Watershipped Down, which was depressing, and or like Disney's Fantasia, which is 273 00:22:55.599 --> 00:23:00.440 pretty like I think it scared me even as a kid, me too, 274 00:23:02.480 --> 00:23:07.359 or watching stuff like Legend Ooh, Tom Cruise. Yeah, it's a movie 275 00:23:07.400 --> 00:23:11.319 that he never talksbout, which I don't know why. Yeah, yeah, 276 00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:15.160 it's so good and it's terrifying. He was gonna say, it's a great 277 00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:21.039 film. It's wells directed and it's creepy. But you know, so it'll 278 00:23:21.240 --> 00:23:25.759 you know, depends on what you're looking for. If you're looking for something 279 00:23:25.759 --> 00:23:30.799 more modern. You know, Hulu does a horror thing every yes, Hulueen, 280 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:33.799 Right, yeah, Huluueen does something every year. Not to say that 281 00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:40.039 those movies are good, but you know it might be worth exploring. So 282 00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:41.079 I guess it just depends on your mood and what you're looking to do. 283 00:23:41.319 --> 00:23:47.880 Absolutely absolutely, I need you as a friend. Please see Trick or Treat. 284 00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:52.480 It's two thousand and seven, directed by Michael Dharty. It is definitely 285 00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:57.079 not for kids. It is it is a kind of anthology where these four 286 00:23:57.160 --> 00:24:06.160 stories are kind of interwoven. It for me, has become a quintessential Halloween 287 00:24:06.279 --> 00:24:15.119 movie. Very varied in the anthological stories. I shouldn't try to sound smart. 288 00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:18.839 I don't even know if that's a word, but very varied in the 289 00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:25.000 four stories that are told, like you know, there there's a slasher one, 290 00:24:25.039 --> 00:24:29.799 there's like a you know, a supernatural one. It is for me 291 00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:36.920 a work of Halloween genius. It is a quintessential Halloween movie. For me, 292 00:24:37.319 --> 00:24:40.559 there won't be a year that I will not watch Trick or Treat. 293 00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:45.240 And now, so that was what two thousand and seven, so we're fifteen 294 00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:49.920 years out or something. There has been demand that has been growing over time 295 00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:56.519 about a follow up, and there's been some some graphic novel tie ins and 296 00:24:56.799 --> 00:25:00.640 and that sort of thing. But Michael Darty is saying that Trick or Treat 297 00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:10.759 too is in the cards. So and there's this awesome character Sam from you 298 00:25:10.799 --> 00:25:12.839 know, from Trick or Treat And I'm trying to see his exact name. 299 00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:18.160 Oh yeah, it's Sam because it stams for Sam Hein or whatever I think? 300 00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:22.480 Am I saying that right? Sam Hein the Halloween Ritual or whatever it 301 00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:30.640 is. So this little guy Sam has become for me an iconic Halloween character 302 00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:37.400 like Jason or Freddie or Michael Myers or Pennyworth or Annabelle or whatever I mean, 303 00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:41.680 Penny Wise, not pennywhere. Please for me, if you have a 304 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:45.680 night or day or whatever where you have ninety minutes, Please watch Trick or 305 00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:51.440 Treat and I need to know what you think. Okay, I will check 306 00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:55.720 it out. I think you will like it. There's something as a horror 307 00:25:55.759 --> 00:26:00.400 fan. From one horror fan to another, I really really really make cited 308 00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:03.359 for you to watch it because I can't wait to know what you think. 309 00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:06.920 I can't wait to talk to you about it. But put it on your 310 00:26:06.960 --> 00:26:12.039 list please for me, I am interested. I will definitely check it out. 311 00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:15.279 Like my friends and stuff, I've been talking about it, but I'll 312 00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:18.880 check it out and see and see what it's you know, and see what 313 00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:22.400 it's like. Yeah, and I'm curious now because now I've built it up 314 00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:26.880 so much. But I really truly believe as a halloween you know, as 315 00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:30.880 a horror genre fan, that you will you will really like it. One 316 00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:37.039 last question, what are your What do you think are some kind of quintessential 317 00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:41.000 and you kind of mentioned some of them. We touched on this briefly, 318 00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:44.240 but I'm curious a little bit more in depth. You know, if I'm 319 00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:48.319 like, I've never been really into horror, Like, what where should I 320 00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:52.519 start? Would you say to start with the classics or is there a particular 321 00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:55.599 film you would say, all right, you've never been into horror, you 322 00:26:55.640 --> 00:26:59.440 want to give it a go because you have a Kyle or a Valerie. 323 00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:03.480 Again, where would you start them off? I don't know. I guess 324 00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:07.319 I would start. I will start with the I guess I would start with 325 00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:11.400 the classics first. You know, I would just have it would have to 326 00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:14.799 be curated a little bit, because it's like, you know, Nightmare on 327 00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:17.559 Elm Street, like one, two and three are great, but for five, 328 00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:22.720 six and whatever else, you don't go to the the first Friday thirteenth 329 00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:26.880 is not entertaining to me at all. But two and three are pretty decent 330 00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:33.480 in my opinion. Uh, the only two Halloweens that are worth anything are 331 00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:36.880 one and two, at least in my personal opinion. You didn't like three 332 00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:41.319 at all. Season of the Witch three? No, no, you know, 333 00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:45.640 but if I guess, if they're like serious about serious war. But 334 00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:49.480 if they're not serious, then I would start them off with something like Ghost 335 00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:55.599 of Mars, which a lot of people hate, but it's fun. That's 336 00:27:55.799 --> 00:28:00.359 John Carpenter, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, with ice Cube like 337 00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:06.720 go so Mars, like the first Resident Evil movie Sean of the Dead, 338 00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:11.240 like I will start them off with stuff like that, that's more, that's 339 00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:17.720 a little action heavy, so it could distract them from like being like terrified. 340 00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:21.440 Yeah, you know, there are levels. There are levels to it, 341 00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:23.640 you know. I might even suggest like the Blair Witch Project, which 342 00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:30.880 it's mostly boring and not much happens, so it's like, if you want 343 00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:33.680 to really be eased in, you know, here are these these things you 344 00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:38.400 should sort of go buy. All right, yeah, finally, and I 345 00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:42.880 think you and I talked about this offline last time. But under representation in 346 00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:48.559 Hollywood, which can never you know, I want to say, as as 347 00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:53.279 somebody who is not underrepresented in Hollywood that I feel like we're moving in a 348 00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:59.640 direction where it's becoming less of a problem as it was, you know, 349 00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:03.160 even ten years ago. But you have people like the incredible Jordan Peele, 350 00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:08.880 who's one of my favorites ever, who was bringing up voices like Nia da 351 00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:15.359 Costa. Thank you Nia da Costa for doing her version of Candy Man. 352 00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:19.799 Do you think that we are getting better in that aspect of horror? I 353 00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:25.680 think horror is one of the most flexible genres to exist. It's cheap to 354 00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:32.319 make horror films. Relatively, it is kinder to women and people of color. 355 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:37.119 It is full of or it can be full of social commentary, and 356 00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:41.839 it's flexible enough to examine some of these things within the genre. And that's 357 00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:48.480 why so many you see so many black women writing and directing horror. You 358 00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:52.720 have, you know, you have Mariyamadallo who created Master for Amazon. You 359 00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:59.839 have Nia DaCosta with Candy Man. You have Nanny. She wrote and directed 360 00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:06.119 Nanny, which is also on Amazon. Her name is Yahtu Jusu. She 361 00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:12.279 directed and wrote this sort of horror film based in African folklore. And you 362 00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:18.799 have Jordan Peel, who is whose budgets get bigger and whose stories get better? 363 00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:23.640 You know. Us was pretty divisive, but I enjoyed it. I 364 00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:30.000 didn't love Nope at first, but upon a second watch, I really dug 365 00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:33.000 it and really liked it. And I just think that it's just one of 366 00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:37.680 those genres that is really easy to break into, like I, you know, 367 00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:41.799 as long as it's cheap, like I've written, I have horror scripts 368 00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:45.839 that I've written, even though their ideas are a little bit more out there, 369 00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:48.079 you know. And I've had people tell me, well, this sounds 370 00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:52.200 so expensive. It's good but expensive. You know, I think that it's 371 00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:57.160 one of the great ways that one could break in absolutely. I mean, 372 00:30:57.160 --> 00:31:02.920 look at Megan. Megan was by a black woman, and I believe Malignant 373 00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:10.759 was that James I Malignant? A Yes, Aquila Cooper is doing a lot 374 00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:15.119 of great, you know, horror things, and she's writing she's writing Megan 375 00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:18.559 two point zero, which you know, it was a big hit. She 376 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.839 did write Malignant. She wrote Malignant, which she wrote it's so good. 377 00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:26.240 She wrote the Nun too. So you see, it's just like, you 378 00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:32.200 know, I have friends that have black women who have written horror Run Sweetheart, 379 00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:37.359 Run other Amazon horror film that was written by a friend of mine, 380 00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:42.519 and so it's just it's just so easy and even in a way to explore 381 00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:48.160 like queerness. Yeah, a lot of queer, like a lot of horror 382 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:55.400 has always been queer, but now it can be over as opposed to cobt 383 00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:57.400 like and she could just be straight out like you have Fear Street, you 384 00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:05.839 know, yes, films, but they existence or of of an intersection of 385 00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:13.000 queerness and horror. And you have films like Nice Plu's Heart and different other 386 00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:17.319 films that explore that aspect of what it means to be a queer person, 387 00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:22.240 on what it means to be trans and so there's that. I love that 388 00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:25.240 we have one minute and forty five seconds left. I could continue to talk 389 00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:29.799 to you forever about this, I could continue to talk to you forever about 390 00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:32.319 all things, because you are so awesome. But I want to thank you, 391 00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:37.480 Valerie. You are absolutely amazing. I can't wait for you to come 392 00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:42.079 back. I love talking with you in general and especially about my favorite genre. 393 00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:45.400 Thank you so much. Where can everybody find you? Everybody can find 394 00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:52.640 me on Instagram at Valerie Underscore Complex number two. You contact me via my 395 00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:55.839 website, which is Valerie coomplex dot com. I also have a podcast that 396 00:32:55.960 --> 00:33:00.839 Deadline called the Scene to Scene Podcast, where I talk to people from all 397 00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:06.200 facets of the industry about you know, personal topics, some of their favorite 398 00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:08.079 things in the business, and what it's like to work on you know, 399 00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:14.079 their specified projects. And you can check that out also on iHeartRadio, Apple 400 00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:17.200 and Spotify. Sweet, we will have all the links come back again very 401 00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:21.720 soon. Please, Oh yes, I definitely will. I want to see 402 00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:23.079 if I can come back in December, because I think Christmas is like a 403 00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:27.799 really interesting time. Awesome. Let's do it to talk about certain things. 404 00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:30.960 Sweet, So thank you for having me on. I really appreciate it. 405 00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:34.720 Thank you do finally, I know. Thank you so much. VI, 406 00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:40.400 take care you too. Bye bye bye, Valerie Complex. I love her. 407 00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:45.759 I love discussing film with her and genres and all the things. You 408 00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:52.839 can get all Valerie complex goodness at valeriecomplex dot com and you can follow her 409 00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:57.759 socials and contact her theirs here reviews and interviews. She's awesome. Can't wait 410 00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:06.279 to have her back Deadline all right. Next up, we have my interview 411 00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:13.800 for twenty twenty three with Lovecraft about their brand new album V So. I'm 412 00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:17.239 really stoked about that. I've heard the album. It's amazing and they are 413 00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:23.519 the music taste makers for the Halloween season and spooky season all year long. 414 00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:30.360 So let's just get right into it, Lovecraft. So I am here once 415 00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:36.239 again. I love the I love this act. I love everything you guys 416 00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:39.920 do. I am here with Amanda M and d r Aka deep cuts from 417 00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:45.519 Lovecraft. Thank you so much for speaking with me. Oh my gosh, 418 00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:51.559 thank you so much for having us back on Pop Culture Weekly. Of course, 419 00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:55.280 I've got to tell you so there's many songs that I listened to by 420 00:34:55.360 --> 00:35:02.480 you guys obviously throughout the year, but one in particular is uh maybe the 421 00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:10.880 Resido. I love that so yes, it is so good. It is 422 00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:16.559 literally on my Apple Music Replay twenty twenty three already for my most laid songs 423 00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:21.480 so far for the year. I love it so much, Oh my god, 424 00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:24.880 thank you so much. You know that's like that's from our Dias deelos 425 00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:30.960 Martos. I think that's EP one. Hmm. So we have an EP 426 00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:37.280 one and an EP does and it's and it was written by the Fears Latin 427 00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:43.599 ex artists Kat Dahlia aka Devil Dahlia in the in the Lovecraft Spooky Verse. 428 00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:47.719 So I'm so glad we're actually doing like a big activation this year around our 429 00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:53.440 our Das deelos Martos records, because you know, as that day is November 430 00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:58.639 first, and we're spooky never sleeps. Yeah, gotta keep it going. 431 00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:02.280 Absolutely. I love it, and it's just so catchy. Maybe it's just 432 00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:07.639 in the production on it. It's so good. I love it. I 433 00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:09.840 love that you love that because I love it and people, you know, 434 00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:16.639 we're we're located in Los Angeles, Southern California, and it's really great to 435 00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:22.239 to share you know, Spanish speaking like records in the spooky world with the 436 00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:27.440 whole LATINX community. It's just awesome. Yeah, you really keeps it up 437 00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:34.760 spooky for sure. Absolutely, and any any any instance, any of you 438 00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:38.559 know, chance to keep the spooky going all year is good for me and 439 00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:43.320 you guys. Yeah, no, we love it. I mean it really 440 00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:52.880 bridges us right into hell for the holidays, really spooky Christmas or spooky holiday 441 00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:55.880 music. So yeah, I love it, love it. Yeah. So 442 00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:00.800 well, and speaking of music, you guys have a new album out right 443 00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:06.519 now called V that just came out. Tell me about that. Oh my 444 00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:10.960 gosh. So you know last year's Scream Warriors like just was and that was 445 00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:16.559 our album four with Christopher Young made the scariest album ever made. And we 446 00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:20.880 had so much fun doing that and it was so amazing. It was just 447 00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:24.480 an immersive album. We love immersive everything in the horror spooky culture space, 448 00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:31.280 like from haunts to immersive theater to you know, everything, So to honor 449 00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:35.400 that we did that. But now then we were like, what's you know, 450 00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:37.719 what are we gonna do next year? And I was like, you 451 00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:43.880 know what I love Found Footage Tour. I love it too, I really 452 00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:47.559 do. I really, really really like Blair Witch. I was like right 453 00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:52.480 in the midst of like high school and that you know, dropped and it 454 00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:55.159 blew all of our minds. Yeah, you know, and a true, 455 00:37:55.199 --> 00:38:00.880 real original scare. And then of course like all the paranormal franchise VHS everything 456 00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:09.199 like that. So we wanted to honor that genre of horror with creating an 457 00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:15.119 album based on our lore. If if all of you to New Lovecraft Spooky 458 00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:19.639 Freaks as we call our fans we call spooky Freaks, if you've been with 459 00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:22.880 us from from day one, you'll know that their story arcs going with all 460 00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:28.400 of our characters. If you're new, just go to lvcrft dot net and 461 00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:32.280 go to the epitaphs of the Spooky Freaks and you'll you'll learn more about our 462 00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:39.559 lore. I digress, but we want also wanted to make like a retro 463 00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:43.400 spooky album, so we thought, like, why don't we tie in the 464 00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:50.519 lore of Lovecraft from where part of Skeleton Sam's lore into this album with found 465 00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:59.559 Audio, So that's was the inspiration. And then just to like like totally 466 00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:05.000 plaster the wall with blood and guts and spooky bops. So that was five. 467 00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:07.239 That is five? YEA love it? Yeah? It is such an 468 00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:10.360 awesome album. And is that how you pronounced it? Is it five or 469 00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:15.519 V V V either one? Like probably you know, and it is a 470 00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:19.559 nod to those of us I grew up in the eighties. If anyone remembers 471 00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:22.760 V the V people. Do you remember the mini series? Oh my god, 472 00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:28.440 okay, is that Aliens? It's like alien people? Okay, I 473 00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:30.880 do, I do? I do? I do? Yeah, because that 474 00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:35.719 like tortured me when I was well, I was like a kid, Christy 475 00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:37.880 ali was It was like such a crazy mini series. All right, So 476 00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:40.639 I gotta look. I gotta check into it thing because I do. I 477 00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:45.360 do vaguely remember. Weren't they didn't they have like it was like masks or 478 00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:54.480 something total they live kind of plot. Okay, all right, I'm definitely 479 00:39:54.519 --> 00:40:00.559 gonna have to check that one out. Then there's yeah V so there, 480 00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:05.320 I uh. There's so many great songs in this. One of my faves 481 00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:09.840 is bad Witches, which is a bop, a spooky bop. Tell me 482 00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:15.280 about that one. How we are like over one hundred songs deep into making 483 00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:22.519 spooky music. Okay, and we sometimes we laugh that we haven't written Bad 484 00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:30.559 Witches. Yeah right, yeah, And that was one that our iconic evil 485 00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:37.840 McQueen aka the legendary songwriter and architect for for modern pop music, Bonnie McKey, 486 00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:42.119 yes, yes, who For your listeners, Fannie me key is an 487 00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:46.280 artist songwriter who who wrote most of Katie Perry's Teenage Dreams album, but many 488 00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:52.280 of her hits and a million other hits. She's she's just such a talented 489 00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:58.599 musician and songwriter and she's part of our Slashers and and uh yeah, and 490 00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:01.719 it's like a Bonnie McCree witchcrafted hit, Bad Witches. Yeah, it's so 491 00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:07.400 cool. And every day is Halloween is another highlight for me. How did 492 00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:09.840 that one come? That's my favorite? Yeah? Yeah, I had nothing 493 00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:17.199 to do with that. So, so for your listeners, when we make 494 00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:23.440 the album, you know, in January and sometimes in November, we bring 495 00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:28.039 everyone together for a week or two, all the Slashers, and we run 496 00:41:28.199 --> 00:41:31.440 like two rooms, two production rooms in the same space, and so there's 497 00:41:31.480 --> 00:41:37.280 a little tiny spooky competition's going. And when I heard that one, I 498 00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:44.920 was like, ugh, you did it again, a little pumpkins. So 499 00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:49.480 it's I think that's interesting that you do the kind of writer's rooms. It's 500 00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:54.519 almost reminds me of a spooky Fleetwood mac Ish thing where you have you know, 501 00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:00.519 various singers and songwriters and producers. Obviously it's a little bit more expanded 502 00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:02.440 with you guys, but I think that's super interesting. And actually, you 503 00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:05.400 know, it was one of the things I was going to ask you is 504 00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:07.760 how do you you know, you have so many talented artist You have the 505 00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:13.440 core of you guys, but then you have your uh slashers or whatever in 506 00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:15.960 like this spooky verse. How do you choose we need to work with this 507 00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:22.440 person or how does that happen? Yeah, so honestly, we we bring 508 00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:27.639 it so just you know, for your spooky listeners, it's uh, we 509 00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:31.199 have a core group of creators. There's about five of us that work every 510 00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:36.559 year on the album, five to six, depending if people are touring, 511 00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:40.960 et cetera. So and then throughout the year we're all working in what I 512 00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:45.960 call non spooky music, which is less fun. I'll just say no, 513 00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:50.239 we love it. We love making music and we feel we feel honored we 514 00:42:50.280 --> 00:42:52.119 get to do it every day. But so we're working on people, you 515 00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:55.639 know, artists, that are signed to labels of working on their albums as 516 00:42:55.719 --> 00:43:00.320 producer songwriters, and you know those spaces are can me intimate, people are 517 00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:06.199 telling each other what they're into, relationships, et cetera. And then you'll 518 00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:09.480 find out like, oh, we got a lot of horror freaks that our 519 00:43:09.639 --> 00:43:15.280 musicians, and so you know it, it's it's definitely natural. And then 520 00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:22.079 will the founders Punkin Crates and I will call each other and be like I 521 00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:27.440 just had a session with so and so and they're absolute freaks for everything spooky. 522 00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:30.960 Let's bring them in next year. So that's generally how how how we 523 00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:36.039 add to our slashers. I love that and so it's very organic and how 524 00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:39.920 it happens. Yeah, and and it does just go to show everyone like 525 00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:45.840 people love spooky culture. Yes, they just love it. They love it. 526 00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:50.960 It's fun, it's exciting. I don't know what what it is. 527 00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:52.599 I mean, I know I just love it. But if you could if 528 00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:54.840 I could say, with a therapist to tap it out, you know, 529 00:43:55.159 --> 00:44:00.400 Yeah, it's funny that you say that about a therapy is because my therapist 530 00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:06.199 once said to me before she escaped, was she and she actually retired, 531 00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:09.599 but she said, you know, I could do a whole book on you 532 00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:15.880 on how you have you know, fear of flying and you know, you 533 00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:20.800 have all this anxiety and then you love going to haunted houses and you love 534 00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:24.320 horror movies and you love Halloween. Like She's like, there's something there that 535 00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:28.320 you know needs to be explored. And I'm like, I don't know if 536 00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:30.000 that's a compliment. I don't think it's a compliment, but thank you. 537 00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:34.000 And if you do do a book on it, please just you know, 538 00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:37.800 send me a little something. But but it is super interesting, how you 539 00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:42.679 know, it really does being in you know, the spooky world. I 540 00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:50.400 have so many friends that are you know, fellow spooky people. And it's 541 00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:52.960 like, you know, there's a family lawyer that is a friend of mine 542 00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:59.760 that is super into it and works at fright Land for fun. I mean 543 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.079 obviously you know they pay her, but she but she does it. She's 544 00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:06.639 like, that's my distressing and I can be my character and blah blah blah. 545 00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:10.679 And it's just it runs the gamut of you know, everybody I haven't 546 00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:16.039 really found because you typically think stereotypically, you know, it's like just goth 547 00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:19.840 kids or something, but it's not. I mean, it's like really, 548 00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:24.119 you know, there's hidden spooky freaks all over the world, and you know, 549 00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:29.400 guys reach out. I love the spooky community. Yeah, use it 550 00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:34.360 our music, make content, we lovecrap, we we we cheer you on 551 00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:37.559 and I know pop culture weekly, I know you do. Absolutely. It's 552 00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:39.880 yeah, I think there's a real you know, I've talked to some of 553 00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:44.960 my spooky community about it, because I would say all of us are have 554 00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:50.320 diagnosed PTSD or anxiety. I know I do disorders, you know, diagnosed 555 00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:54.280 et cetera. And I and I also find this community. You know, 556 00:45:54.599 --> 00:46:00.239 I've been in many different creative communities throughout my life as a creative. Always 557 00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:01.920 think I'm kind of boring, like one of my people I grew up with, 558 00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:06.559 Like what do you do? I'm like making music. Yeah, I'm 559 00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:09.320 kind of a one notre and uh yeah. We talked about it at link 560 00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:15.480 and and I think it's our ability to face our fears and and and to 561 00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:19.679 see those through. I think there's really like something in there because it and 562 00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:24.440 also I noticed the spooky community is quite an empathetic and caring and creative community. 563 00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:30.960 Yeah yeah, which is uh. Also, I think people wouldn't expect 564 00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:36.599 that for sure, for sure, and it really is a you know, 565 00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:40.079 I find it very I was doing an interview yesterday with friend of mine who 566 00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:47.280 she specializes in horror and sci fi with Deadline and uh and she you know 567 00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:52.719 does Yeah, they're amazing, and she she was telling me, you know, 568 00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:57.119 we were discussing about how forward thinking it really is where you know, 569 00:46:57.719 --> 00:47:02.079 traditional Hollywood in many respects, especially in film and television, is often afraid 570 00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:08.880 to bring on a showrunner or director or writer or whatever that is a person 571 00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:15.960 of color or LGBTQ or whatever. Horror has always kind of been a place 572 00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:23.840 where has been accepting and pushing the boundaries for the general population in underrepresented communities 573 00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:29.079 as well. So I find not just is it the people that are so 574 00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:34.400 empathetic, you know, with all of our fellow disorders and stuff, but 575 00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:37.679 it's also very much a come as you are community. You know, whatever 576 00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:42.920 you are, as you are, we love and accept you. And I 577 00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:46.480 think that's so awesome, you know, It's a thing that I'm proud of 578 00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:52.760 being that community for. Yeah, me me as well, because I think, 579 00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:57.360 like like horror has always been a space an outsider art form, you 580 00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:00.760 know, from film to music, everything and in the culture, celebrating the 581 00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:04.960 culture, and and it celebrates the other. And when you think of like, 582 00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:08.199 you know, uh, the success of Romero and in the zombie films 583 00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:13.920 and just self funding those and and the social commentary of those of those movies, 584 00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:19.039 and and and it's definitely been a space for for women and not male 585 00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:23.440 creators to to to like soar, you know. And now we're getting to 586 00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:30.199 a space I feel I've and obviously creator creators of color. It's in in 587 00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:34.760 the queer community. And now I'm hoping we get to the space where we're 588 00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:42.920 gonna start seeing more of the uh oscars and more like the awards area giving 589 00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:46.440 the acknowledgement. And like me, I'm still amazed at Miya Gothta not receive 590 00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:52.480 at the very least nomination. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And but I 591 00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:58.679 think exactly, And but I think that things like Lovecraft and films, you 592 00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:02.639 know, creators like and Peel in the film and television world are you know, 593 00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:07.960 look at the look at the business of the box office to this day, 594 00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:14.239 so many you know, analysts and studio heads, you know, they 595 00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:19.239 kind of don't count horror. And then they get this big explosion of a 596 00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:22.239 popular horror film and they're like, oh, how did that happen? Well, 597 00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:24.159 if you haven't noticed, it happens like four or five times a year, 598 00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:28.000 you know what I mean. It's it's not a it's not an underdog 599 00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:31.440 anymore. In many times, in many seasons, I should say, it 600 00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:36.360 is carrying the box office. When you have a you know, a five 601 00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:39.119 million dollar film go on and gross one hundred million dollars, like, you 602 00:49:39.239 --> 00:49:42.679 know, take note of that at this point, you know what I'm saying. 603 00:49:43.639 --> 00:49:46.159 Yeah, they're doing another another run of Terrifier too, through through the 604 00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:52.039 theaters to mainstream theaters again, yes, you know, And yeah, that's 605 00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:54.559 what I mean. To me, it's really the that you know, that's 606 00:49:54.639 --> 00:50:00.320 holding the box office up. There are the superhero Marvel and DC and horror. 607 00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:05.960 Yeah, and and I don't think we're just in a horror We're in 608 00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:07.440 a horror renaissance. But I don't think it's going anywhere, Like it's not 609 00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:09.880 going to be that like oh, we had the eighties era and then we 610 00:50:09.960 --> 00:50:15.679 had like a nineties era. I just like here and to me, the 611 00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:19.639 generally be like, no, it's going to get bad, But to me, 612 00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:23.039 the quality has just gotten better and better with like focus and you know, 613 00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:29.199 and for more of the indie horror film lovers like are starting to really 614 00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:35.320 see some amazing horror films coming out and absolutely Australian horror never disappoints me. 615 00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:37.760 Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah to me really blew my mind. Oh 616 00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:43.119 my god, that was so amazing. It was so good. I texted 617 00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:45.079 all my spooky friends. I was like, what are you doing right now? 618 00:50:46.039 --> 00:50:50.239 What you know we're laughing, you know, everyone's making those spooky jokes. 619 00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:52.320 I was like, to drop what you're doing, drop your knives, 620 00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:54.639 run to the movie theater. So I told everyone to know. I was 621 00:50:54.679 --> 00:50:58.719 like, do not walk, run it is Oh my god, it's so 622 00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:02.079 good. It is so good and terrifier too. By the way, was 623 00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:07.880 filmed mostly at Fright Factory in Philadelphia, which would be on the tour that 624 00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:14.920 I uh that I'm determined to set up for you guys, but uh yeah, 625 00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:17.599 I absolutely, And you know, there's just it's just such a creative 626 00:51:17.639 --> 00:51:22.360 community and you guys are just an extension of that. I'm so glad that 627 00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:27.320 there are powerful voices in the music industry who are saying, you know what, 628 00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:31.920 I'm gonna let my spooky freak flag fly and we're gonna be use our 629 00:51:32.039 --> 00:51:36.719 talents to do this at a big level. And it's it's you know, 630 00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:43.039 it's huge. You guys last year were everywhere in the Halloween season and now 631 00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:47.159 it's happening again. It's just awesome. When when you started this how many 632 00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:51.400 what four or five years ago, did you ever expect it to get to 633 00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:57.480 this level? No. I didn't expect it to become like essentially what what 634 00:51:57.679 --> 00:52:01.199 in the industry you call it an artist project like four and facing going to 635 00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:07.280 events, playing, But I didn't expect that. I expected it to like 636 00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:13.199 our goal was to make like an evergreen Halloween song and you know, just 637 00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:15.760 as like a freaky factoid for the audience. I want everyone to know. 638 00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:22.920 And we died as as the founders. We had never written a song with 639 00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:27.840 the title with Halloween and the title until album V right right, I noticed 640 00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:34.039 that we have three. Anyways, we just to this day the irony of 641 00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:37.679 that is like really funny to me, but yeah, and I would say, 642 00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:43.000 like our publishers and our managers were like, what are you doing here? 643 00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:47.679 Shime on this? And I was like, I was like, do 644 00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:51.360 you see how many? You know? And we just kind of did listen 645 00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:55.559 as artists do. We don't listen to anyone, right and now now to 646 00:52:55.679 --> 00:53:01.039 really be a part of seeing this grow, I mean it's not just us 647 00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:06.039 like our projects has grown, but spooky. I just call it spooky because 648 00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:10.000 it's so much bigger than Halloween. No. That to watch that grow and 649 00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:16.079 to be a part of that has been like really really really really fun. 650 00:53:16.519 --> 00:53:22.480 Yeah, I mean it's fun, well even to watch it as somebody that 651 00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:25.360 is a spooky person and a music lover, you know. I mean I 652 00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:29.760 think I told you I used to be signed with Warner out of high school 653 00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:36.119 and and so like from all sides, it's just like, from all sides, 654 00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:39.239 I'm so happy for you guys. I mean, you were a literally 655 00:53:39.480 --> 00:53:46.599 a g Grammy winning creator, artist, writer, producer, and you are 656 00:53:47.440 --> 00:53:52.119 as you mentioned probably to you know, your publishers. Horror at first, 657 00:53:52.519 --> 00:54:00.719 no pun intended. Are using that power and that name and that talent to 658 00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:02.039 say, you know what, this is important to me and I want to 659 00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:05.079 do it, and then it blew up, you know what I mean. 660 00:54:06.079 --> 00:54:09.199 Yeah, it's it's rare. And I'll tell you, like five years ago, 661 00:54:10.559 --> 00:54:14.199 I think when we would when you know, I take meetings because I 662 00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:19.719 I'm an artist in the non spooky world known as M and D R and 663 00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:27.000 like like an electro pop artist, and but I also work as a songwriter 664 00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:30.960 and producer. So when I'm taking meetings with A and r's asking you what 665 00:54:31.079 --> 00:54:32.800 you're up to, you and you're like, oh, yeah, I started 666 00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:39.079 this. This I co founded with with Evan Bogart and Peter Wada love Craft. 667 00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:45.199 We make like new Halloween music kind of rolled their eyes right. And 668 00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:52.960 now what we've found so interesting is now the majors are signing artists whose entire 669 00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:58.480 brands are spooky wow, blood Nymph. There's a whole skin and we're working 670 00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:01.400 with all of them, which is so ex That is really cool. We 671 00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:04.760 want to work, you know, we don't want to take all our spooky 672 00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:08.079 toys and not share. We're like, awesome, like more the merrier, 673 00:55:08.280 --> 00:55:13.719 like let's work together. Absolutely, it's been fun. That That is really 674 00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:15.840 cool. And you know, I love that angle and it's really in my 675 00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:21.199 opinion, you guys have opened the doors for that because I mean, look 676 00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:29.559 at you know, you had one of the most streamed songs last year during 677 00:55:29.760 --> 00:55:34.519 all of spooky season. Uh, and that for me has become, and 678 00:55:34.639 --> 00:55:37.199 I think for the culture now is going to be one of those you know 679 00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:43.400 Mariah who you know again, don't fall out yet, but but I think 680 00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:46.119 it's going to be one of those things like the like all I want for 681 00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:51.880 Christmas for for Spooky Season, where it's gonna be one of those songs every 682 00:55:51.960 --> 00:55:57.719 year that forever is going to be associated with spooky season. And I love 683 00:55:57.840 --> 00:56:00.599 that, you know, I love that so much. That was our goal 684 00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:06.639 and and here's a freaky factoid on that song Skeleton Sam, which I believe 685 00:56:06.679 --> 00:56:07.920 you're talking about. Yeah, oh, I didn't even say it. Yeah, 686 00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:15.760 yeah, was the okay we're audience, We're album V We're five albums 687 00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:22.599 and over one hundred songs written about spooky everything spooky, And that was the 688 00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:28.800 very first song that was written. I just find that so and again I 689 00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:32.719 had nothing to do. That was in the other room. But but we 690 00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:37.559 were doing a wu which is our second biggest record, yeah, yeah, 691 00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:45.880 and on on streaming platforms, streaming platforms, and in our goal was like 692 00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:51.920 we wanted to be part of like spooky culture the way Ghostbusters, thriller, 693 00:56:52.400 --> 00:56:55.360 Monster mash. That was our goal. And to reach that was like spooky 694 00:56:55.400 --> 00:57:00.960 tears yea. And to see it grow and this year has been like to 695 00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:06.239 see how people how people use that that song and in their creations has been 696 00:57:06.519 --> 00:57:09.840 really really humbling. Yeah. I mean TikTok has flooded with it all, 697 00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:15.920 you know, and has been for a month. Uh and and we're not 698 00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:20.400 even into peak spooky spooky season yet, you know. So, so it's 699 00:57:20.559 --> 00:57:23.480 just it's so awesome to see all of you know, to see all of 700 00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:30.800 this come come together. What what are you guys doing show wise? You 701 00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:35.280 did some interesting things last year. Uh, any things that we can look 702 00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:39.639 forward to this year? Yeah? So okay, so this year right now 703 00:57:40.599 --> 00:57:46.559 along with Skeleton Sam that was had a great placement. It's been in Hubie 704 00:57:46.599 --> 00:57:52.360 Halloween. It was re lyric for this season for the season bumpers of the 705 00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:57.480 Chilean Rents of Sabrina, which was a great lift for it, but it 706 00:57:57.599 --> 00:58:02.840 wasn't that version. They asked us to relyric to fit the narrative of that 707 00:58:04.039 --> 00:58:07.400 series, which was awesome. And that's version is called Straight to Hell, 708 00:58:07.639 --> 00:58:14.519 which I did have a part of songwriters just let you swooky audience. No 709 00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:20.239 songwriters and producers. We're just a little competitive it's freaky fun, competitive, 710 00:58:20.280 --> 00:58:23.719 but we always want to have the big one. But we're happy that all 711 00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:30.239 the all of us are right, I have one. So now you know 712 00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:34.679 we didn't have because we were in the shadows. You know, we wanted 713 00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:39.159 this project to to We didn't expect it to need to have a forward facing 714 00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:45.719 brand character. So none of us wants to do that, and so we 715 00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:54.519 conjured up what I call my Eddie from from Iron Maiden, Skeleton Sam. 716 00:58:55.639 --> 00:59:00.239 He's a he's a high red of Rob Halford and Eddie for me with a 717 00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:07.719 pop angle and Skeleton Sam took off as a character. Yeah, so now 718 00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:14.920 you know our live activations this season, he's getting asked to do media nights 719 00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:22.239 and come to independent Haunts to a lot to We are every night in Long 720 00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:31.159 Beach running the entertainment for Shaktoberfest, which is an amazing event. We run 721 00:59:31.239 --> 00:59:36.079 the block party stage with our DJ Reaper and Skeleton Salmon's there every night. 722 00:59:36.719 --> 00:59:40.840 There's Haunts, it's Shaktoberfest is my one of my favorite events to go to 723 00:59:40.920 --> 00:59:45.840 in southern California because there's nothing else like it. There's a fair, there's 724 00:59:46.119 --> 00:59:52.239 mazes, there's a bar, there's a dancing area. There's an and really 725 00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:55.880 ages from little to to you know, late night. It's very cool, 726 00:59:57.440 --> 01:00:01.079 very cool experience. But it's been very fun and to celebrate lovecraft. Skeleton 727 01:00:01.159 --> 01:00:07.880 Sam in Detroit this year at Hush we opened up there Haunted Media Night, 728 01:00:08.039 --> 01:00:15.039 and he's actually there as well, every every night there open this season, 729 01:00:15.639 --> 01:00:22.440 Skeleton Sam is multiplied. He's been on tour. We've been in Sacramento, 730 01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:30.760 Sacramento's Screamfest that Haunt and also we've got been to San Francisco for Terrible the 731 01:00:30.800 --> 01:00:38.679 Initiation, which is a nightlife immersive event with a vampire bar that is the 732 01:00:39.239 --> 01:00:47.199 brainchild of the iconic queen herself, Peaches Christ. Awesome. Yeah, so 733 01:00:47.480 --> 01:00:52.960 it has been one busy season that is awesome. And then then are you 734 01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:58.679 you know, we come to Halloween and and then at least for me and 735 01:00:58.679 --> 01:01:00.360 I'm sure for you too, Like you know, first week in November, 736 01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:04.000 I start kind of getting down because I'm like, eh, you know, 737 01:01:04.400 --> 01:01:07.079 like and then it gets at least on the East Coast, it gets darker 738 01:01:07.199 --> 01:01:12.920 early, darker, earlier. It's like four o'clock and it's dark, and 739 01:01:13.239 --> 01:01:16.480 I'm just I feel like I like go into hibernation and then uh, but 740 01:01:16.679 --> 01:01:22.920 you guys start either working on or or planning or all of the above for 741 01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:29.880 the next project, right Yeah, on November two, we do a postpartum 742 01:01:30.199 --> 01:01:35.719 meeting. We've already have album six scheduled in the calendars for the for the 743 01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:39.599 slashers and the creators, and we're gonna be diving right into the next body 744 01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:45.119 of work and before the end of the year. Don't think that the holiday 745 01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:51.119 season Christmas, New Years Han huh kwansa can't be spooky, right, So 746 01:01:51.280 --> 01:01:57.400 get ready for for our Hell for the Holidays EPs coming out with brand new 747 01:01:57.760 --> 01:02:02.639 Last year we did well. Our first spooky holiday song was Naughty and Nice 748 01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:07.880 and we have a new version of that which we're excited about. And then 749 01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:15.960 we have All I Want for Christmas Is Boo, which came out last year. 750 01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:21.480 And then this year we have a brand new song which we're very excited 751 01:02:21.519 --> 01:02:25.159 about. So we'll be keeping the bops going and obviously no member. First, 752 01:02:25.239 --> 01:02:30.480 we're selling Celebrating Das Dayley smrshals with their entire lad Nex community here and 753 01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:38.079 with our EPs one in Dose you Know and Dose and those are available on 754 01:02:38.119 --> 01:02:45.239 all streaming platforms. But if you're watching right now on our social media, 755 01:02:45.480 --> 01:02:50.559 we've also dove into storytelling and to tell our origin more. Yes, that's 756 01:02:50.599 --> 01:02:53.679 been really fun to watch. Okay have you been watching I have? Yes, 757 01:02:54.000 --> 01:02:58.039 okay, okay, yes, okay, and so and we'll have all 758 01:02:58.079 --> 01:03:04.000 the links up for everybody as well. But it is it is uh, 759 01:03:06.239 --> 01:03:09.800 I love the the universe, you know what I'm saying, the immersiveness. 760 01:03:12.199 --> 01:03:16.239 Yeah. So we this year are are rolling out in a twenty part series 761 01:03:16.960 --> 01:03:22.320 on our social media, a short film diving into the origin of Really Skeleton 762 01:03:22.440 --> 01:03:30.760 Sam and the Spooky Freaks. So it is really freaking I'm on part thirteen. 763 01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:34.519 It's very easy to find the parts and those of you, uh, 764 01:03:35.280 --> 01:03:38.440 you know, spooky freaks out there if you're someone like me that loves horror 765 01:03:38.519 --> 01:03:43.599 talk, Hashei horror Talk, Hashi horror Reels. There's a lot of great 766 01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:49.480 like short films, horror films that are being you know, run out on 767 01:03:50.239 --> 01:03:55.679 and on these platforms in parts right right, So we are also doing that 768 01:03:57.440 --> 01:04:00.559 this year to celebrate V and to tell the story of V and to tell 769 01:04:00.760 --> 01:04:08.639 the whole spooky verse of Lovecraft. So totally worth watching. It is on 770 01:04:08.800 --> 01:04:15.280 Instagram, YouTube shorts, on our YouTube channel and of course TikTok and it's 771 01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:19.320 getting really freaky. And we were able to use with the awesomeness of our 772 01:04:19.400 --> 01:04:27.079 partner's thirteenth Floor, who Run, Who Run, Shaktoberfest and Ellie he On 773 01:04:27.239 --> 01:04:31.760 a hay Ride and Delusion, which is an amazing immersive experience here in Los 774 01:04:31.800 --> 01:04:39.440 Angeles. We were able to do a lot of filming at a very creepy 775 01:04:39.519 --> 01:04:45.719 place in Pomona, California. So if you're like, what is going on, 776 01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:49.480 just know that that was a special treat and it was legitimately haunted. 777 01:04:50.760 --> 01:04:55.000 Wow. And a lot of that footage was haunted. Oh wow. Okay, 778 01:04:56.119 --> 01:04:59.559 yeah, all right, I love that. And then I want to 779 01:04:59.559 --> 01:05:04.280 see you guys is at like trans World in Saint Louis you know I'm talking 780 01:05:04.320 --> 01:05:09.320 about absolutely. We have plans to be there this year. Do you all 781 01:05:09.440 --> 01:05:15.400 right? We are having lunch or dinner or drinks or something. So great 782 01:05:15.400 --> 01:05:18.119 to know you'll be there, yes, yeah, it is. Uh so 783 01:05:18.559 --> 01:05:23.960 this will be your first time, right where have you been there? I 784 01:05:24.119 --> 01:05:27.599 haven't been there. Norman Crates went one year just to like check it out, 785 01:05:27.639 --> 01:05:30.480 see what it's all about. But we will be there as Lovecraft this 786 01:05:30.599 --> 01:05:35.440 year. Oh awesome. Okay, now I'm super duper excited. Yeah, 787 01:05:35.559 --> 01:05:41.519 you guys have to be there. Every Haunt owner in the country is there, 788 01:05:42.639 --> 01:05:46.679 and buyers and all kinds. I'm excited for you guys, and I'm 789 01:05:46.719 --> 01:05:55.400 excited for me to to see you guys together finally in person. So that's 790 01:05:55.480 --> 01:05:58.599 awesome. That'll be I think it's February or March. I can't remember the 791 01:05:58.719 --> 01:06:02.159 dates, but awesome. Yeah, and uh, and then you know, 792 01:06:02.440 --> 01:06:08.679 we'll be keeping on top of all of love Craft's awesome stuff throughout the year, 793 01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:12.239 keeping us going because you know, like you said, you know, 794 01:06:12.440 --> 01:06:15.320 spooky seas, spooky season never dies, you know what I mean. No, 795 01:06:15.519 --> 01:06:18.639 it's spooky try for seven and I love it. I love it like 796 01:06:18.800 --> 01:06:25.760 people can't believe how into it we're I'm home crafting, I'm uh, you 797 01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:30.119 know, decorating, throwing, throwing I with I have a toddler, so 798 01:06:30.239 --> 01:06:34.440 we're throwing kid parties, and I mean, we're just all about it. 799 01:06:34.679 --> 01:06:40.400 It isn't uh. It definitely is a labor of freaky love. And we're 800 01:06:40.519 --> 01:06:44.920 just so excited that we have people like you that want to celebrate what we're 801 01:06:44.960 --> 01:06:49.559 doing. We're so grateful for that. Of course, we absolutely love it. 802 01:06:49.920 --> 01:06:54.960 Of course of course, and I'm right there with you, Amanda. 803 01:06:55.039 --> 01:06:59.519 Thank you so much. Love Craft. We'll have all of the uh cool 804 01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:03.360 or the easy links to all the cool stuff you guys are doing. And 805 01:07:03.480 --> 01:07:10.000 of course be is streaming now on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen 806 01:07:10.199 --> 01:07:15.519 to your music. Thank you so much, and everybody, happy Hauntings and 807 01:07:15.320 --> 01:07:23.760 creep It Real, creep It real, love her Love Lovecraft love V their 808 01:07:23.800 --> 01:07:27.079 brand new album which you can stream wherever you get your music, just like 809 01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:32.519 on the free iHeartRadio app. That is our show for this year. Happy 810 01:07:32.639 --> 01:07:38.519 Halloween, Safe Halloween. You know I'll be keeping spooky season going all year 811 01:07:38.840 --> 01:07:43.239 long anyway. But for those of you that don't, please have a safe 812 01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:46.480 and happy Halloween. I will see you next week. I love you, 813 01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:51.320 we are Thank you for listening to pop Culture Weekly. Here all the latest 814 01:07:51.599 --> 01:08:03.639 at pop cultureweekly dot com. Maybe you may see sooner. Unlock your up 815 01:08:03.719 --> 01:08:12.920 the serra Kao Care of Moor or can be one shotgun in the truck, 816 01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:19.720 two lovers on the road. Yeah, but done. Thous