Dylan O'Brien & Eliza Scanlan (Caddo Lake); Scott Speedman (Teacup)

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In this episode of pop Culture Weekly, I talk with

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the stars of Kaddo Lake, including Dylan O'Brien who returns

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and Eliza Scalen, and I talked to the cast of

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Tea Coop, the Really Creepy series on Peacock Right Now,

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Scott Speedman, Von Strowski and more.

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Let's go Welcome to pop Culture Weekly with Kyle McMahon

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from my Heart Radio your pop culture news, views, reviews

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and celebrity interviews on all the movies, TV, music and

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pomp culture u CRABE Weekly. Here's Kyle McMahon.

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Nett no no, no net, Hello, and welcome to pop

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Culture Weekly with Kyle McMahon.

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It's an October episode, and you.

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Know that I love Halloween, I love spooky season, I

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love horror, so this is a great episode for all

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of you fellow you know, spooky horror lovers. Talk with

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the cast of Kato Lake, which is a HBO Max

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film written and directed by Selene Held and Logan George

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who I speak with, and it stars Dylan O'Brien, Eliza Scanlin,

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Eric Lang, Lauren Ambrose and guests.

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Who serves as producer of that.

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Film, m Knight, Shyamalin himself and you know I love

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m Knight and this film is really amazing. It is

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available right now on Max. Kato Lake is about a

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eight year old girl who disappears on Kado Lake, which

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is a real place, and then a series of past

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deaths and mysterious disappearances I'll begin to link together. It

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is extremely great. I really really loved it. Very spooky,

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twisty thriller. I really highly recommend you watch it. It

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is well well well well worth your time, especially at

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spooky season. It doesn't have to be because it's you know,

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a great thriller, but it's perfect for spooky season. So

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uh so I speak with the filmmakers Selene Held and

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Logan George as well as Dylan O'Brien returns once again.

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We talk about the film and Eliza.

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Scanlin and also Tea Cup, which is this incredible horror

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series on Peacock produced by Ian McCulloch and James Wand

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you know I love James Wand and it stars Yvon Strowsky,

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who you may know is the Emmy multi Emmy nominated

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actor from such series as The Handmaid's Tale and Chuck

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and Dexter and twenty four and Scott Speedman, who I

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love Scott. He kind of became big with Felicity, the

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series Felicity and then played Michael Corvin in the Underworld

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film franchise. He's been in Triple X, State of the Union,

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The Strangers, which is one of my favorite scary movies ever.

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And for Grey's Anatomy fans, doctor Nick Marsh who he

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has played on and off for a long time. So

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he joins me as well. So let's get right into

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this all spooky episode of Pop Culture Weekly. We are

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going to start off with the cast and filmmakers behind Teacup.

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So let's talk to.

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Ian McCulloch, who is executive producer and writer as he

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gives us some insight into how he took Teacup from

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a beloved book to a series.

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Let's speak with him Ian McCulloch.

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First of all, thank you Ian for speaking with me.

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I really appreciate it.

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Oh sure, nice to meet you.

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Nice to meet you. So, first of all, congratulations on Teacup.

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I absolutely love it. I'm a huge genre fan and

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this does an amazing job of not only being great

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genre work, but it's very layered and you know, there's

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it's a great drama, there's family stuff going on. You know,

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it's so layered, and I really appreciate that as a

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as a fan.

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So thank you, well, thank you.

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That's that's really good to hear.

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So tell me about why, you know, why you were

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attracted to this project and and and also taking it

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from a book but not you kind of took the

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essence of the book and and kind of did it

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did did it your own way? What was that important

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to you? And why did you Why was it important

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for you to do this project and why did you

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decide to do it in the way you did.

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Uh. Well, James Wallan's company came to me with the

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book and they said, here's a book. We're looking for

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somebody to adapt it. Would you give it a read?

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want to do this page for page, character for character adaptation.

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becomes interesting to me because the book still exists. If

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you want to go read the book, go read the book.

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It's a really good book. But the series is its

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own thing. And you said it perfectly, it's the essence

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of the book and nothing more. And I thought, what

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if you take away all the bells and whistles. What

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if you take away the town, you take away all

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the characters, take away the set pieces, the big crazy

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stuff that happens in the book, and you just deal

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with the ground level. And I use this in quotations

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reality of a family dealing with what happens in the book.

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And to me, that opened all the doors for me.

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It's the way to make it a long form narrative

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where you're invested in these characters and you see where

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they go. Because you're with this family at all times,

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you're at ground level with them experiencing this, and in

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that way, the audience experiences it with them, and that

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to me was really exciting. Now there's two things. One,

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James One and his company needed to feel the same way,

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and two, more importantly, Robert McCammon needed to feel the

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same way. And I, instead of asking for permission, I

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asked for forgiveness. I went and wrote a script which

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is basically the episode. One showed it to Atomic Monster

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in James and they said, fantastic, we love it. And

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then we showed it to Robert McCammon and he said,

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oh wow, this is really cool. This is different and

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he got on board, and those are the two voices

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that I needed to hear say yes before I could

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really invest, and we went from there.

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Was there any nervousness in because it you know, I

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would say a lot of times in this industry, you know,

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there's a lot of studio meddling, you know, where you

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don't want to stray from the norm and you want

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to go with something that's always worked. So there, you know,

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there is a bit of a risk in that. Was

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there any nervousness on your part, especially going to demand

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that wrote the book, where you'd like, here's what it

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is and here's my vision for it.

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I think that's and I was sure that as sure

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as I've ever been that it that it was the

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that it would work, not that it was the right

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thing to do, but that it would work. And I

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think going into something go whether it's going to James

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or McCammon, or to UCP or to Peacock. If you

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go in and you say this is the thing, you

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want to get on board this thing because it's really cool,

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then if they don't, then it's not for them. It's

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not that it's bad. It's not that it's but if

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you believe in it, it's gonna show. And that you know,

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there's a thousand reasons why they say no in this business,

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and I've been told no a thousand times, so maybe

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that's part of it as well. But I'm not nervous

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because the worst thing is they say no and they

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go home and have a sandwich, or they make it

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and I tell somebody else to get me a sandwich.

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of Teacup, you know, so often there's so much amazing

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genre work that's overlooked. What is one of your favorite pieces,

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whether you know a long form or a film that

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you feel is overlooked.

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remember what it's called. It's overlooked. Shoot, what is it called.

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It's so good. I can't think of it. Really hard

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because I know it, but I don't remember what it's called.

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It's like three times something song I don't remember. I

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don't remember. There's so many though, there's a I don't know. Jeez,

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that's a hard question. Shit, it's gonna be my first failure.

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In interviews today, I don't remember what it's called. All right,

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remember it like in five minutes exactly.

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There you go.

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Thank you. That's all right, Ian, thank you so much.

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I really appreciate speaking with you.

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All right, good talking to you.

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Ian mccullag. I love what he's done with Peacock.

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It is a really great horror, like legit terrifying series.

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It's so good. As a horror fan, you should watch it.

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If you're looking for something spooky, just for the Halloween

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spooky season, you should watch it. Jump right in, all right,

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Next up Chosky and Sir and Rob Morgan. Chowsky gained

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prominence as Sam Yuley in the Twilight films. He's also

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nominated for a British Academy Television Award for the BBC

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and Prime Video series The English. He's also been in Banshee,

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Sneaky Pete, and blind Spot, among many many others. Rob

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but you know, he's probably best known for his role

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as Turk Barrett in the Marvel Netflix series.

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You know, I'm a huge mcu fan, Marvel Studios.

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Fan, but he played Turk and daredevil Luke Cage, The Punisher,

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Jessica Jones, The Defenders, Iron.

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Fist, and I loved every second of it. He also

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played Hap Jackson and mud Bound Officer Powell of course

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in Stranger Things, and he is joining us with Chosky.

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So let's jump right into it. My conversation, my conversate,

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my conversation with Rob Morgan and Chosky Spencer.

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Thank you both for speaking with me. Thank you for

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having us Kyle of course. So, first of all, I

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love a teacup. It is so I'm a huge genre fan,

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but I think this is interesting because it works on

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many layers, not just as you know genre work, but uh,

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it's you know, there's drama and family and all kinds

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of things. So I wondered if for both of you

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that was also something that drew you to it. But

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you know, as as an actor.

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you actually get such quality writing with such in depth

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characters that you can download and play without having to

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figure it out so much on your own, but actually

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like just taking the tip in front of you and

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just really living it as honestly as possible. And it

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was a treat to have that.

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do if the writing spot.

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know it's inspired by the book, but had had either

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of you read the book before you took on the role,

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or I read a little bit of it, But then

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I found out that it what Ian did was take

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the essence of the book and create something on his own.

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just right to the source.

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and special of their own that was like inspired by

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the book but not totally going by the book verbatim,

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I just trusted in the scripts in my own research

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and went with that. So I didn't read the book,

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but I read the scripts.

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Gotcha. And both of you have been involved in uh

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in you know, the Marvel universe for instance, and you

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know all kinds of work all over in all kinds

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of spaces in entertainment, film, content, television. What drew you

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to Teacup?

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un much they've been investing in quality shows, and then

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with James wand name at the top of it, knowing

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his his resume and success, it just felt like a

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dream come true for an actor that really, you know,

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put in hard work and time to get to this

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M and for you, you know, I was talking to Scott

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and Yvonne and it popped up regarding isolation and how

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we've all kind of lived in isolation for at least

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a short period a few years ago. Has that affected

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you as an actor when you're doing something, you know,

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in a script like this, you know, series like this,

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where so much of it is based around isolation and

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that sort of thing, and we're kind of at a

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unique place in history where you know, there's not many

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points in history where you can say we were all

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kind of isolated, but then you have this series that

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comes along that is is very much isolation is very

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much a part of the story. Does that affect you?

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now I had had that on my resume, so I

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can you know or are you able to just it's

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in the script and so I'm gonna do that.

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I'm still isolated, I'm still living in isolation.

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things like that do it does help, Like actors, I

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think anything you give us we can absorb because we

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take it and do what we can with it. So

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it's just an added character.

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just the directors to like, you know, keep us in

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line with the tonality that we're trying to execute here.

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I love that And for either of you. Finally, what what?

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feel as a horror fan, I feel personally I'm a

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film buff obviously, but I love horror in particular. I

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often feel that there's some great work that's overlooked, uh,

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just because you know, especially with so many critics and stuff,

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it kind of gets snubbed sometimes and there's sometimes this

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feeling of or this air of you know, like or

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superior over that genre or something, which I think is

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a mistake. You know, there's incredible work like Teacup that

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is very much in the genre vein, but but it

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is also so much deeper than you know, a typical

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slasher or whatever. What if you could pick one of

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kind of those underlooked genre films for both of you,

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Rob and Shaske, What what would you what would that

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be for you?

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Overlook genre film? Can I go back to the eighties

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for Beach Street?

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I think that was overlooked because from where I was

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at my life and time, that was such a true

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depiction of culture that I really related to. But I

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seemed like I was the only one that liked it.

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You know, it didn't get no nomination, no nothing, but

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for me and my crowd, it was like the Bible

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at the time, you know what I mean.

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Beach Street that I remember that.

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I like stuff like that. I liked The Third.

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Man, Okay, and I know it's famous, but most people

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don't unless your film buff, don't really know about that movie.

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So I'm I'm a big fan of that type of genre.

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Awesome. I love that. Thank you both so much for

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speaking with me. I can't wait for everybody to see

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Teacup so I can talk about it.

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Thank you, Thank you for having me man.

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Thanks have a great day. Rob Morgan and Showsky Spencer

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love those guys. Love their roles in Teacup, which again

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exclusively on Peacock.

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It is so good. You gotta watch it. It's really terrifying.

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It's like it's you know, how often do we get

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a really actually scary TV series? This is one of them.

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So check it out, all right. Next up, we talk

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with the two main stars themselves, Scott Speedman and Yvonne Strowsky.

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I talked about them a little bit more at the

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top of the show, but let's just jump right into

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it right now here. They are Scott Speedman and Yvonne strav.

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First of all, thank you both so much for speaking

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with me. I really appreciate it.

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Thanks for having us.

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Of course. So tell me a little bit. You know,

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both of you have done such varied roles, and you've

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both had some horror in your you know, in your filmography.

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Why is it something that you know, something like teacup

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that Why is that something a genre that you'd like

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to go back to.

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I don't know if I think of it as a

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genre that I like to go back to. It's more

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it's more, I mean, every project is, you know, in

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case by case really, so it's it depends on the script,

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it depends on the people involved, it depends on how

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much fun or challenge I'm going to have as an

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actor on it, And I think this one ticked all

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the boxes pretty much for me. I mean, it was

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a great piece of writing. Ian is such a lovely

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human being, and as a first time a showrunner, was

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just super thoughtful and how he wanted to approach this.

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And I think that's what attracted me to the project,

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is not that we had a showrunner who wanted to

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make some kind of a classic horror with all the

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gore and the thrill. He wanted to make a horror

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with an amazingly grounded foundation of relationships and family and

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stuff that I think audiences can truly relate to, which

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sort of elevates the piece in a way that we

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might not often see.

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So yeah, okay, how.

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About for you, Scott, Yeah, I mean somewhat of a

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similar answer. It's not like I'm digging and searching and

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asking a representation find me the next horror thing or

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something in the genre space. I mean these scripts came

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along when they did, and I knew Evian's work from

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other things, and I was kind of really excited to

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see what he was going to do with something in

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this space because his work previously he wasn't. That's not

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really what floats his boat. So when I got the scripts,

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I was really excited. He nailed the world really well

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and the family really well, and the whole the idea

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of this family isolated on this farm in Georgia. I

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thought the drama of that whole situation alone was like

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really interesting and I thought, really going to be watchable

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for an audience. So when they started to add in

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the genre elements and I knew James Wand's company was gonna,

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you know, be behind the scenes with us here, I thought, Wow,

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this really could have something special going on.

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But I mean it was. It was, honestly, man.

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There were just there were good scripts, you know, there

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were good scripts that came along, and you just you're

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always searching for stuff like that.

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I love that. And you know, part of the reason

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that I love Teacup is that, you know, I think

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at a very human level, isolation is a scary thing

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for many of us were you know, social creatures, and

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that that alone is is scary for so many people,

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you know, and of course we've all recently collectively went

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through a very isolating, you know event that that I think,

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you know, tends to be on the back of our

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minds today now, and then you take that and then

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you have this great script on top of it with

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you know, it's really I love that there's drama. You know,

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it's not just a slasher or it's not just a

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straight up horror you know series, it's a it is

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very layered and so you know, so speaking to that

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we have, you know, we are four years out from

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a worldwide pandemic the beginnings of it. Does that change

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you as an actor? You know, now that you've kind

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of had this isolating experience and now you're playing characters

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that are forced to be isolated. I feel like almost

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if I was an actor, Like it's almost like I

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have real life experience now with that, you know what

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I'm saying. Has that changed either of you?

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I mean, for me, I think that whole situation changed

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all of us. So yes, collectively, of course, And I

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think we all have a different understanding of when something

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strange starts to happen, and you know, then you include

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your neighbors and your other the other parts of the

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town you're in and all that sort of stuff. I

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think collectively we just sort of subconsciously understand that and

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I think that's where some of the dread of this

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show comes in. And I think we all look at

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shows like this where you're not sure of what's happening

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to you, to your family, to the next family over

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to that family over there, to your neighbors.

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So we all have.

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An eerie, unsettled feeling around all that that when we

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start to watch our show, you can't not help but

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feel some shared subconscious thing that's going on for the viewers.

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So yeah, I mean on that level, but not something

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overt that. Like I read these scripts and I was like, oh, well,

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I know this now because of COVID or something right right,

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something a little more subtle, but yeah, it's in there

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for sure.

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How about for you, Bun, I don't know.

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I you know, I, as a Scott was spoking. I

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just sort of thought, you know, to add to that,

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it's interesting also to see how individuals, how dynamics play

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out in that circumstance, and certainly in real life and

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a pandemic, we had a lot of different opinions about

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how things should be or what was real what wasn't

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a lot of it political, so it's interesting to sort

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of bring it right down to this like microcosm and

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have and and and have characters that were sort of

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representative of that greater world that we all lived in.

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So yeah, that that's sort of what comes to mind

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when when we're talking about this.

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And finally James want you know, I'm a huge fan

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of his uh and and this you know, this is

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obviously based on a novel. Had had I either of

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you knew of the novel beforehand or did you read

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it in preparation for filming tea Cup?

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Oh?

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Sorry, no, I mean given that Ian, you know, Dean

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has always said this was the novel was an inspirational piece,

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but that a lot of it became different in how

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he had approached the show, and he kind of did

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that from the get go. So I didn't really feel

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it necessary to read it. Otherwise I probably would have.

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I usually would read something like that, but this might

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be the first time that I hadn't.

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Yeah awesome, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I didn't read

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it either. He was like, he, I think that book

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is like a huge book. It's like this huge story

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that involves the whole town and you know, like many many,

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many many characters, and he wanted to do a very

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much smaller story version of that, which I thought was

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a smart place to at least start the show.

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Se Yeah, well I love it. I can't wait for

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everybody to see it. Thank you, Yvonna and Scott. Teacup

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coming very very soon. Thank you, thank you, thank you,

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Yvon Strowsky and Scott speed Me. They are so good

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in Teacup and Teacup is so good. You've got to

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watch it. It's available right now on Peacock eight half

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hour episodes and it's well well well worth your time.

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The final two episodes will be premiering on Halloween of

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twenty twenty four. So depending on when you watch this,

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it's either coming out is out. It's either coming out

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or is out. So whatever one it is, there it is.

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I'm not making any sense, but you get it. All right.

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That's it for Teacup Peacock series Love Life of Love It.

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Next up, we're going to take a break real quick,

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and then we're going to come back and talk to

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the filmmakers and the cast and crew. Talk to the

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filmmakers and Dylan O'Brien and Eliza Scanlon all about their

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film Kado Lake be right back in sixty all right,

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Thanks for hanging in there and supporting our sponsors that

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make this show possible each and every week and bring

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incredible interviews to you, like the ones we're doing right now.

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Kato Lake. We talked about that at We talked about

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it at the top of the show.

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But it's a film exclusively on Max, produced by the

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amazing m Night Shy Malin, directed and written by Selene

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Held and Logan George, who are incredible, incredible filmmakers and

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stars Dylan O'Brien, Eliza Scanlon, and Lauren Ambrose who Lauren

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has been on the show a million times for Servant,

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the m Night series, one of my favorite series of

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all time from Apple TV. Another incredible spooky series that

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you need to watch.

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But let's get right into it.

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Let's talk with the filmmakers first, Selene Held and Logan George.

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First of all, thank you both so much for joining

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me or really appreciate it.

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Yeah, thanks thanks for you.

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Of course, nice meeting you. So, first of all, how

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did this project come to be? I heard and you

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can clear that if needed, but I heard that it

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came about from a photograph that you came upon from

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the actual Lake.

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Is that accurate?

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Read it from Reddit of the Lake, on Reddit.

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On earthporn so red earthporn, Yeah, no, sawas photo is

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May and we were just really like, what are we

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going to do? Our first feature, south By Southwest had

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been canceled, our first feature so hadn't seen the light

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of day yet, and we felt very stuck. We also

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were in this place of not being able to see

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our family and kind of this question a very covidy

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question maybe in retrospect, but like we were really curious

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in thinking about our parents, especially in like.

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Who they were before we were born.

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My mom had passed away in twenty nineteen, and Queen

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was talking about these conversations that she had with her

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and was bringing up these memories that she had spoken

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to Selene about and I was like, I've never heard this,

482
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:43.519
like like it doesn't even sound like my mom. And

483
00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:46.839
so I sort of prompted this question of like, how

484
00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:49.079
well do you really know your parents before you had

485
00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:51.359
this whole life, before you know they gave birth to you.

486
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:54.720
And yeah, so we grabbed my mom, We borrowed my

487
00:28:54.839 --> 00:28:57.559
mom's car so my parents weren't stuck in the house,

488
00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:03.240
and we drove down to Caddo from Brooklyn and it

489
00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:07.319
did not disappoint. It was three million times more magical

490
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:10.359
than that photo could have ever presented itself to us.

491
00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:15.400
And we met these incredible people and spent a few

492
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:19.319
months living off the lake writing that first draft that

493
00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:23.039
was a mess, and then kind of came back to

494
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:26.559
Brooklyn and got a big whiteboard and charted out another

495
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:27.480
draft too.

496
00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:30.680
I love that logan.

497
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:33.799
I I'm so sorry for your loss. I lost my

498
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:38.160
mom three years ago and my life has not been

499
00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:42.480
the same since. And uh, but I wonder how that

500
00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:44.960
you know, I know for me when I when my

501
00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:47.240
mom passed, she passed from pancratic cancer.

502
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:49.440
I had to.

503
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:52.920
Do something with it. And it seems similarly as you know, creators,

504
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:55.160
that's it seems like it's kind.

505
00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:55.599
Of what we do.

506
00:29:56.160 --> 00:30:00.440
So I called the uh, the president of iHeart, and said,

507
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:02.359
I have this idea for a show called death, Grief

508
00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:04.039
and other shit we don't discuss. And I'm going to

509
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:07.480
travel around the country and find out everything that I

510
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:11.039
can about the process of death and dying in the afterlife,

511
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:14.680
and you know all of it and and you guys51200:30:14.720 --> 00:30:16.720



are gonna pay for it, and so so I did.51300:30:17.599 --> 00:30:21.119



But it seems similarly from watching the film and talking51400:30:21.119 --> 00:30:23.519



to both of you that that those things have kind51500:30:23.559 --> 00:30:30.480



of greatly influenced what you ended up with, would you agree.51600:30:29.599 --> 00:30:31.079



Oh yeah, well it's just like you're saying, it just51700:30:31.200 --> 00:30:33.720



changes you, uh, you know, forever, So it can't help51800:30:33.839 --> 00:30:37.279



but start to like be infused into your art and51900:30:37.599 --> 00:30:42.400



what you write. We definitely wanted to make something that52000:30:42.519 --> 00:30:46.599



was like propulsive and wrapped in this genre thriller that52100:30:46.680 --> 00:30:49.359



had like a ton of energy and was ultimately very52200:30:49.440 --> 00:30:53.319



very entertaining. But yeah, like you know, the core emotionally52300:30:53.359 --> 00:30:56.039



comes from, you know, something that happens very early on52400:30:56.119 --> 00:31:00.160



in the film to Paris played by Dylan and and52500:31:00.559 --> 00:31:04.200



sort of everything is a ripple from this event that52600:31:04.240 --> 00:31:07.519



happens to him. So yeah, it was something that sort52700:31:07.519 --> 00:31:10.559



of I think was always there in the first draft52800:31:10.599 --> 00:31:13.559



that we mentioned. It was a female character who had52900:31:13.559 --> 00:31:17.079



lost her mom, and kind of the big unlock coming53000:31:17.079 --> 00:31:19.599



back to Brooklyn for us was this idea of like53100:31:19.960 --> 00:31:24.359



what if this is actually two protagonists and that sort53200:31:24.359 --> 00:31:27.359



of like unlocked this whole new puzzle box that we53300:31:27.359 --> 00:31:29.640



could weave together and was really like the guiding light53400:31:29.680 --> 00:31:33.480



of getting the scripture where it was. That made it53500:31:33.519 --> 00:31:34.680



like really good and fresh.53600:31:34.799 --> 00:31:39.240



So yeah, and then you know, so now you have53700:31:39.319 --> 00:31:41.880



this draft, you're back in Brooklyn, you you're you know,53800:31:42.000 --> 00:31:43.720



kind of refining it.53900:31:43.799 --> 00:31:48.200



What happens from there, what happens.54000:31:47.839 --> 00:31:52.000



From there, what happened from there.54100:31:52.640 --> 00:31:54.119



I was just going to say that it was a54200:31:54.240 --> 00:31:58.880



very hard script to kind of iterate and rewrite because54300:31:58.920 --> 00:32:02.200



you're you're so locked in the way that everything sort54400:32:02.200 --> 00:32:05.880



of loops back and feeds one another every scene. It54500:32:05.960 --> 00:32:08.319



was it was, you know, trickier than most sort of54600:32:08.359 --> 00:32:13.720



like straight storylines to rewrite. I remember that just being54700:32:13.799 --> 00:32:15.359



very challenging because it's like, oh, if we want to54800:32:15.440 --> 00:32:18.039



change this thing, then you have to change these six54900:32:18.240 --> 00:32:20.279



things that you haven't been ending anymore. It's like, really55000:32:20.440 --> 00:32:21.079



really tough.55100:32:21.880 --> 00:32:22.640



But we shared.55200:32:23.319 --> 00:32:28.559



We we were directing for Servant that following January February55300:32:29.359 --> 00:32:32.319



for Knight's TV show, and Night just said.55400:32:32.680 --> 00:32:34.880



Oh, if you ever have a feature, and we were like, oh.55500:32:34.680 --> 00:32:34.960



We do.55600:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.519



Gave him this s feature that we had and he55700:32:39.559 --> 00:32:41.559



called us in the next weekend and he said, I'm55800:32:41.559 --> 00:32:42.119



financing this.55900:32:42.160 --> 00:32:45.000



He was the first person to read it.56000:32:45.000 --> 00:32:48.960



It was it was it was really surreal, and he56100:32:49.039 --> 00:32:50.599



didn't We didn't spend a lot of time on the56200:32:50.640 --> 00:32:54.799



iteration process in pre production, which I think, and then56300:32:54.839 --> 00:32:57.839



in the post production process we spent a lot more56400:32:57.839 --> 00:33:00.359



time like reworking, And part of me is like what56500:33:00.400 --> 00:33:02.880



would have happened? But like Logan said, it all would56600:33:02.880 --> 00:33:06.960



have fallen apart. It took actually being there. Eliza Dillon56700:33:07.480 --> 00:33:10.720



had a lot to do with, like who their characters became,56800:33:10.920 --> 00:33:14.200



like every life of a project. The life of a56900:33:14.240 --> 00:33:17.400



project is in three parts and you have to respect57000:33:17.519 --> 00:33:21.480



each piece. So like that production part is so different57100:33:21.519 --> 00:33:23.400



than you know that you can write the best script ever,57200:33:23.599 --> 00:33:26.400



everything changes during production, so to write a movie that57300:33:26.599 --> 00:33:31.960



was ultimately so complicated, everything changed anyway anyway, So what57400:33:32.079 --> 00:33:36.960



happened was the project is I don't know, it works somehow,57500:33:37.119 --> 00:33:39.960



maybe like some duct tape and super glow, but like57600:33:40.079 --> 00:33:40.559



it works.57700:33:40.960 --> 00:33:43.559



I love it and I love the film and I57800:33:43.599 --> 00:33:46.960



love night He and Servant is one of my favorite57900:33:46.960 --> 00:33:51.359



shows ever. I covered, Yeah, I covered it every season.58000:33:51.400 --> 00:33:54.680



I talked with the cast and night and then came58100:33:54.759 --> 00:33:57.480



out to the series finale thing in New York and58200:33:58.319 --> 00:34:01.440



did all that is It's one of one of my58300:34:01.519 --> 00:34:04.519



top two three favorite shows ever and I can never58400:34:04.559 --> 00:34:06.599



figure out which one is number one or two or three.58500:34:06.680 --> 00:34:08.760



But but what.58600:34:08.760 --> 00:34:12.239



Do you hope for for you know, once this this58700:34:12.559 --> 00:34:15.000



is out there in the world, what do you what58800:34:15.039 --> 00:34:18.199



are your wishes for it as the as you have given.58900:34:17.920 --> 00:34:18.639



Birth to it.59000:34:20.960 --> 00:34:23.440



I hope people watch it and want to I want59100:34:23.480 --> 00:34:26.559



to get in touch with family, watch it and want59200:34:26.559 --> 00:34:27.400



to like call their mom.59300:34:28.559 --> 00:34:31.800



That would mean a lot to me. Yeah, I hope it.59400:34:34.639 --> 00:34:37.559



Yeah, I hope that it can be something that's like59500:34:38.320 --> 00:34:41.000



when you rewatch it, that you'll keep seeing these pieces59600:34:41.400 --> 00:34:43.920



that we really carefully put into the beginning.59700:34:46.199 --> 00:34:48.440



Yeah, that you that you wouldn't recognize first watch.59800:34:49.039 --> 00:34:49.280



Yeah.59900:34:49.960 --> 00:34:52.519



Well, it's just that like some of these relationships we60000:34:52.639 --> 00:34:56.880



have in our family are so delicate but like so60100:34:57.079 --> 00:34:59.000



strong at the same time and.60200:34:58.880 --> 00:35:00.239



Sort of like just really.60300:35:01.760 --> 00:35:04.639



Appreciating that, like Selene saying, like just like you know,60400:35:06.039 --> 00:35:08.119



hugging your mom or your dad or just your brother,60500:35:08.239 --> 00:35:10.239



like just like that one second longer.60600:35:10.320 --> 00:35:11.480



Well you chosen family.60700:35:11.639 --> 00:35:15.840



I mean, yeah, I think Ellie at the beginning, you know,60800:35:15.880 --> 00:35:17.400



and it's even in the trailer her saying, I'm not60900:35:17.440 --> 00:35:21.320



really to telling these people obviously you know now spoilers,61000:35:21.320 --> 00:35:24.840



but but yeah, there's there's something, there's something there and61100:35:24.880 --> 00:35:26.599



like we we have our family, we also have our61200:35:26.679 --> 00:35:29.639



chosen family. We have these people that we choose to61300:35:29.639 --> 00:35:32.159



go through life with and making sure that they are,61400:35:32.480 --> 00:35:35.760



you know, totally aware how much they mean to us.61500:35:37.239 --> 00:35:37.840



I love that.61600:35:37.960 --> 00:35:41.360



I can't wait for everybody to see the film exclusively61700:35:41.880 --> 00:35:45.400



on Max. Selene and Logan, Thank you very much for61800:35:45.440 --> 00:35:46.079



speaking with me.61900:35:46.880 --> 00:35:48.400



Can't wait to check out your podcast.62000:35:48.599 --> 00:35:51.199



Thank you, I appreciate it. Take care.62100:35:53.039 --> 00:35:59.360



Selene out and Logan zors incredibly talented creatives.62200:35:59.599 --> 00:36:00.800



I love them.62300:36:01.000 --> 00:36:04.840



I love their work with Topside and now Kato Lake,62400:36:05.320 --> 00:36:08.079



and I can't wait to see what they do next.62500:36:08.880 --> 00:36:12.239



All right, We're gonna speak next with Eliza Scanlin.62600:36:12.360 --> 00:36:13.480



She is incredible.62700:36:14.119 --> 00:36:18.639



She kind of broke out in the Australian soap opera62800:36:18.679 --> 00:36:22.000



called Home and Away, then in the US and really62900:36:22.039 --> 00:36:22.880



then the rest of the world.63000:36:23.000 --> 00:36:26.000



She broke through as a troubled.63100:36:25.559 --> 00:36:31.199



Teenager in the HBO miniseries called Sharp Objects with Amy Adams.63200:36:31.599 --> 00:36:34.079



She played Beth March in Little Women.63300:36:34.119 --> 00:36:37.639



From twenty nineteen, she played fifteen year old Kara and63400:36:37.840 --> 00:36:42.119



m knights Old, who was in the incredibly powerful film63500:36:42.159 --> 00:36:45.599



The Starling Girl. She played Eleanor Roosevelt in the First63600:36:45.760 --> 00:36:50.679



Lady and now she plays Ellie in Kado Lake. Let's63700:36:50.840 --> 00:36:54.400



jump right into my interview with Eliza Scanlon.63800:36:54.639 --> 00:36:55.199



How are you.63900:36:56.039 --> 00:36:56.559



I'm good?64000:36:56.599 --> 00:36:58.559



How are you? I'm doing well? Thank you.64100:36:58.719 --> 00:37:01.519



First of all, welcome to ir Radios Pop Culture Weekly.64200:37:01.559 --> 00:37:04.639



I appreciate you joining me. Thank you for having me,64300:37:04.920 --> 00:37:05.519



of course.64400:37:05.920 --> 00:37:10.519



So first of all, this film is so incredible.64500:37:10.679 --> 00:37:14.280



I love how layered it is, and I'm trying to64600:37:14.320 --> 00:37:16.719



be a spoiler free as possible, but I love how64700:37:16.840 --> 00:37:22.119



you know there's multiple things going on, if I can64800:37:22.159 --> 00:37:23.039



put it that way.64900:37:23.760 --> 00:37:28.000



What drew you to this film?65000:37:28.079 --> 00:37:30.519



I mean, good job on not spoiling anything. It's the65100:37:30.599 --> 00:37:34.119



hard one to do with this film. Yeah, what drew65200:37:34.159 --> 00:37:37.599



me to the project? I mean, first and foremost, they65300:37:37.639 --> 00:37:41.440



think Selena and Logan, the filmmakers drew me to the project.65400:37:41.599 --> 00:37:49.880



They are really talented, unique, distinctive filmmakers. And when this65500:37:50.199 --> 00:37:54.639



film arrived in my inbox, I know did a deep dive,65600:37:54.719 --> 00:37:58.639



as you always do, on the filmmakers, and I watched65700:37:58.639 --> 00:38:03.760



that film top side, and I mean they've made so65800:38:03.920 --> 00:38:06.800



much stuff, but top side their film and also their65900:38:06.800 --> 00:38:10.239



short film Caroline were two things that blew me away.66000:38:10.960 --> 00:38:15.440



And I just knew, even from seeing their work that66100:38:15.519 --> 00:38:20.599



I had to make this thing with them. And then66200:38:20.760 --> 00:38:24.239



I read the script. The script was unlike anything i'd66300:38:24.480 --> 00:38:32.719



read before. It was straddling two very different, you know, sensibilities.66400:38:32.800 --> 00:38:42.280



I think like you've got, you know, genre mystery with naturalism,66500:38:42.639 --> 00:38:48.559



very grounded performances, family drama. So yeah, and I'd never66600:38:48.599 --> 00:38:51.119



done a like a kind of a film for where66700:38:52.800 --> 00:38:58.440



the plot was so like action driven. So there were66800:38:58.480 --> 00:39:00.239



just like a bunch of things that really excited me66900:39:00.320 --> 00:39:01.519



about the project.67000:39:01.800 --> 00:39:04.599



Yeah, I love that, and that's one of the many67100:39:04.679 --> 00:39:08.079



reasons that I love watching it. You know, it's just67200:39:08.519 --> 00:39:12.159



for all of the reasons you said, and more. As67300:39:12.199 --> 00:39:14.920



you're filming, is it hard for you? I asked Dylan67400:39:14.960 --> 00:39:15.519



this as well.67500:39:15.800 --> 00:39:17.000



Is it hard for you to.67600:39:19.280 --> 00:39:23.239



Knowing that there's kind of knowing that what we know67700:39:23.360 --> 00:39:25.840



as the viewer, as you as an you know, an actor.67800:39:26.360 --> 00:39:30.199



Is it hard for you to put certain plot elements67900:39:30.239 --> 00:39:36.239



away as you're shooting or are you able to be like, Okay, no,68000:39:36.480 --> 00:39:38.559



I'm in the here and now for this scene or68100:39:38.599 --> 00:39:39.639



how does that work for you?68200:39:40.760 --> 00:39:44.000



That's a really good question. I remember finding that really68300:39:44.039 --> 00:39:49.320



difficult when we were shooting because I mean there were68400:39:49.320 --> 00:39:53.239



even moments on set where you know, the people us68500:39:53.360 --> 00:39:56.639



who you know should be the one to like know68600:39:56.760 --> 00:39:58.480



the thing back to front, and you think you do,68700:39:59.400 --> 00:40:02.880



until you know you get to a certainty and you're like, wait,68800:40:03.760 --> 00:40:06.360



what am I meant to know right now? And like68900:40:06.440 --> 00:40:11.800



what's happened? And who knows who? And yeah, there's kind69000:40:11.840 --> 00:40:16.519



of it definitely messed with you a little bit just69100:40:16.639 --> 00:40:21.199



keeping track of the story. I did find that really69200:40:21.440 --> 00:40:25.159



really difficult. But sometimes you kind of just have to69300:40:25.159 --> 00:40:27.800



throw that all away and be like, Okay, I'm running69400:40:27.840 --> 00:40:30.000



down the street. That's that's what I'm doing.69500:40:31.719 --> 00:40:35.440



And you had worked with Night M Night before, who69600:40:35.480 --> 00:40:40.360



he's one of my favorites ever, and you had worked69700:40:40.400 --> 00:40:44.280



with him in Old How did you come into this?69800:40:44.440 --> 00:40:45.679



Was it through M Night?69900:40:45.880 --> 00:40:48.840



Was it before? And he just happened to come in?70000:40:48.920 --> 00:40:49.719



How did that work?70100:40:51.039 --> 00:40:56.239



Well, he wasn't part of it initially, but as you know,70200:40:56.360 --> 00:41:02.159



Selene and Logan worked with Night on Servant and yeah,70300:41:02.199 --> 00:41:06.280



I came onto the project and he learned about the70400:41:06.280 --> 00:41:09.760



project and wanted to support it and come on in70500:41:09.760 --> 00:41:12.199



a producing capacity, which I believe was the first time70600:41:12.199 --> 00:41:13.719



that he ever did that.70700:41:14.159 --> 00:41:15.960



For somebody else's film, right.70800:41:16.039 --> 00:41:18.719



Yeah, yeah, yeah, and so it was a huge deal.70900:41:19.840 --> 00:41:22.960



And yeah, I think it just like really kind of71000:41:23.000 --> 00:41:29.480



bolstered the film and to have his kind of wisdom71100:41:29.559 --> 00:41:33.559



and guidance in, you know, throughout the production and post71200:41:33.760 --> 00:41:37.880



it was. Yeah, it was kind of like a did71300:41:37.920 --> 00:41:40.599



not unexpected serendipitous thing to happen.71400:41:41.719 --> 00:41:41.920



Yeah.71500:41:41.920 --> 00:41:44.199



I thought that was interesting, especially for you and and71600:41:44.280 --> 00:41:46.800



Lauren you know, who of course was on Servant, which71700:41:46.840 --> 00:41:51.760



is one of my favorite shows every Yeah. So for you,71800:41:51.760 --> 00:41:56.360



you know, you've done such varied work, you know, eleanor Roosevelt,71900:41:56.440 --> 00:42:00.079



and you know, and what is it like for you72000:42:00.280 --> 00:42:02.920



as an actor? I mean, obviously you get to choose72100:42:02.960 --> 00:42:07.760



your roles, but you get a script like this, Is72200:42:07.760 --> 00:42:10.000



it ever a conscious thing to be like, well, I've72300:42:10.000 --> 00:42:11.239



never done anything in.72400:42:11.199 --> 00:42:12.280



That space before.72500:42:12.559 --> 00:42:15.400



Let me dive in and kind of flex my muscles,72600:42:15.599 --> 00:42:18.280



or does it come down just to the script and72700:42:18.320 --> 00:42:19.440



the filmmakers for you?72800:42:20.320 --> 00:42:22.760



How do you kind of make that choice?72900:42:25.119 --> 00:42:30.119



I think I'm always looking for things that challenge me,73000:42:30.280 --> 00:42:33.760



things that I haven't done before. It's very easy to73100:42:34.000 --> 00:42:41.320



quite quickly fall into the type casting trap. And also73200:42:41.440 --> 00:42:43.400



I'm sort of I'm at an age where I can73300:42:44.119 --> 00:42:49.239



play still play roles that are quite young, but I'm73400:42:49.239 --> 00:42:53.480



also reaching a stage where I'm i can play characters73500:42:53.679 --> 00:42:57.039



that are a bit older. So I'm just constantly looking73600:42:57.280 --> 00:43:02.400



for Yeah, sometimes it's it's like, because I'm twenty five now,73700:43:02.480 --> 00:43:06.079



Sometimes you're like, how many times can I play a73800:43:06.119 --> 00:43:11.320



coming of age film when I'm twenty five? But you know,73900:43:11.440 --> 00:43:14.039



I just think it comes down to the story and74000:43:14.119 --> 00:43:17.039



if it's if it's trying to do something different, and74100:43:17.079 --> 00:43:20.480



if it feels like it's exploring, you know, a facet74200:43:20.599 --> 00:43:26.039



of yourself that you haven't quite you know, exploriat or74300:43:26.119 --> 00:43:29.000



if it's like, if it's scary, that's usually an indicator74400:43:29.719 --> 00:43:33.840



to do it. But yeah, yeah, I mean I'm doing it.74500:43:33.880 --> 00:43:35.840



Was about to do a play that's a comedy and74600:43:35.880 --> 00:43:38.280



I don't really do comedies, and I'm a bit l74700:43:38.599 --> 00:43:43.559



uh oh, but it'll be it'll be great because if74800:43:43.559 --> 00:43:45.840



it's scary, that means it's the right thing.74900:43:45.800 --> 00:43:48.000



To be doing, right And I know that you mean75000:43:48.159 --> 00:43:52.239



scary as in, you know, out of my comfort zone immediately.75100:43:52.719 --> 00:43:57.199



But as a huge horror fan, are you are you75200:43:57.360 --> 00:44:02.360



like a genre fan? Are you a horror or obviously75300:44:02.360 --> 00:44:05.000



I wouldn't call this horror. But but are you a75400:44:05.039 --> 00:44:05.559



horror fan?75500:44:06.679 --> 00:44:15.079



I'm not, Okay, I I am weak. I don't really.75600:44:15.239 --> 00:44:19.320



I mean I feel like there obviously there's such a75700:44:19.719 --> 00:44:25.519



huge horror fan base, and horror is what keeps you know,75800:44:26.079 --> 00:44:31.280



movie theaters alive. And but I think like the horror75900:44:31.280 --> 00:44:37.400



genre is totally expanding, which is really cool. And it's like,76000:44:37.599 --> 00:44:40.920



I guess like there was probably a day, you know,76100:44:41.000 --> 00:44:43.639



probably five years ago if you told if you ask76200:44:43.719 --> 00:44:46.239



me whether I like horror, I'd be like, no, I76300:44:46.320 --> 00:44:49.320



don't like horror. But I feel like I've had a76400:44:49.840 --> 00:44:53.800



I've learned more about the genre, and I yeah, I76500:44:53.840 --> 00:44:56.800



just feel like there's some really interesting things happening in76600:44:56.880 --> 00:45:00.320



horror at the moment. So I certainly something I want76700:45:00.360 --> 00:45:01.360



to explore, that's for.76800:45:01.280 --> 00:45:03.119



Sure, okay. Uh.76900:45:03.159 --> 00:45:05.599



And I love that, you know, as a horror fan77000:45:05.800 --> 00:45:08.840



and as a testament to what you're saying, you know,77100:45:08.960 --> 00:45:12.719



there are serious filmmakers that are you know, exploring in77200:45:12.800 --> 00:45:18.679



horror and kind of pushing the boundaries as creators and actors.77300:45:18.280 --> 00:45:21.960



And you know, the whole teams of what horror means.77400:45:21.960 --> 00:45:24.079



And then you have all these kind of genre bending77500:45:24.159 --> 00:45:27.079



films and and creators like M Knight, who kind of77600:45:27.199 --> 00:45:31.400



you know, towes so many lines between so many genres77700:45:31.480 --> 00:45:35.159



that in many ways it's become you know, of course77800:45:35.199 --> 00:45:38.159



there's horror horror, but in many ways it's there's a77900:45:38.159 --> 00:45:40.079



blurb between many of those.78000:45:39.880 --> 00:45:40.440



Things, you know.78100:45:41.239 --> 00:45:44.880



Yeah, for sure, for sure. And I think that's probably why.78200:45:45.360 --> 00:45:48.320



I mean, like straight horror is probably not something I'm78300:45:48.599 --> 00:45:51.480



like immediately drawn to, but like you're saying, the sort78400:45:51.480 --> 00:45:55.960



of genre bending stuff, I think it's really cool and like,78500:45:56.960 --> 00:46:00.440



you know, it's that's where I like slain logo comes in,78600:46:00.559 --> 00:46:05.440



you know, doing some really interesting stuff that I don't78700:46:05.480 --> 00:46:08.599



think has been really quite done before.78800:46:08.760 --> 00:46:13.239



So yeah, yeah, I could see you in Like have78900:46:13.280 --> 00:46:15.239



you have you seen the others with Nicole Kidman?79000:46:16.199 --> 00:46:16.960



No? I haven't.79100:46:17.039 --> 00:46:18.920



Oh you got to watch it. Like who would think79200:46:19.079 --> 00:46:21.599



Nicole Kidman of all people is like in a horror79300:46:21.599 --> 00:46:26.079



movie and it is a horror movie, but it's Nicole Kidman.79400:46:26.159 --> 00:46:28.599



But it's kind of like that genre bending you know,79500:46:28.599 --> 00:46:32.119



but it's so cool and her performance is so elevated79600:46:32.159 --> 00:46:34.800



and it just I feel like brings the genre up79700:46:34.840 --> 00:46:35.639



for everybody.79800:46:35.719 --> 00:46:35.920



You know.79900:46:36.760 --> 00:46:38.800



Oh, I'm such a big Nicole Kidman fan.80000:46:39.320 --> 00:46:40.440



Yeah, you got to check it out.80100:46:40.920 --> 00:46:41.079



Oh.80200:46:41.159 --> 00:46:44.000



I think she's so cool and she does like I80300:46:44.000 --> 00:46:47.440



don't know, I just think she does. She's not She's80400:46:47.480 --> 00:46:53.159



open to everything and anything and takes risks, and that80500:46:53.159 --> 00:46:56.800



doesn't surprise me that she's done a full blown horror film.80600:46:56.960 --> 00:46:57.199



Yeah.80700:46:57.679 --> 00:47:01.039



Yeah, Well, and for you for this film, you know,80800:47:01.920 --> 00:47:04.639



I had I lost my mom three years ago to cancer.80900:47:05.360 --> 00:47:07.480



This film is in many ways. I was talking to81000:47:07.679 --> 00:47:11.480



the filmmakers and Logan was saying he had lost his81100:47:11.519 --> 00:47:15.159



mom in the journey with this project. So much of81200:47:15.199 --> 00:47:19.079



this film for me as a viewer, is about grief81300:47:19.519 --> 00:47:22.320



and what we do with that grief and that journey81400:47:22.400 --> 00:47:25.440



and how you know, my grief journey of losing my81500:47:25.480 --> 00:47:29.519



mom is different than Logan's with his mom and different,81600:47:29.559 --> 00:47:34.239



you know, it's also individualistic. What do you think the81700:47:34.400 --> 00:47:36.440



essence of codder Lake is.81800:47:39.559 --> 00:47:44.239



Yeah, I totally understand what you're saying about the grief journey.81900:47:44.239 --> 00:47:48.760



Everybody has their own journey that and it looks different82000:47:48.800 --> 00:47:57.800



for everyone. And I think for Ellie, she's you know,82100:47:58.159 --> 00:48:01.800



she's had to grieve, you know, her dad not being82200:48:01.840 --> 00:48:06.960



in her life from a very young age, and that's82300:48:07.000 --> 00:48:14.039



something that she has to confront again and again, and yeah,82400:48:14.639 --> 00:48:17.159



and also she has as a result of that, she82500:48:17.159 --> 00:48:22.880



has such a fraught relationship with her mother and they82600:48:23.000 --> 00:48:25.320



have hurt each other in a lot of ways. And82700:48:25.360 --> 00:48:28.039



I you know, and I think that's also a huge82800:48:28.039 --> 00:48:31.840



part of grief, is that in you know, when you82900:48:31.920 --> 00:48:37.519



lose someone people, it's very easy to you know, like83000:48:38.320 --> 00:48:41.679



carry that that the weight to that loss, and use83100:48:41.760 --> 00:48:47.000



that as ammunition to hurt other people. I think that83200:48:47.079 --> 00:48:53.159



this this film is you know, trying to explore the83300:48:53.239 --> 00:48:56.760



life that your parents had before you were born, and83400:48:58.800 --> 00:49:01.079



you know, the people that they were before you existed.83500:49:01.400 --> 00:49:06.920



And I think also it's a film about forgiveness too.83600:49:08.840 --> 00:49:14.800



And yeah, I just think probably what people I hope83700:49:14.840 --> 00:49:19.480



people take away from the film is like, yeah, finding83800:49:21.039 --> 00:49:24.679



finding a place in their hearts to forgive. And I83900:49:24.679 --> 00:49:30.079



think it's obviously very hard to especially family can be84000:49:30.199 --> 00:49:35.920



so complicated that Yeah, I think it's like the ending84100:49:35.960 --> 00:49:40.119



is quite hopeful and it's like the beginning of a84200:49:40.199 --> 00:49:48.719



journey of like forgiveness in within Ellie's family. So yeah,84300:49:48.840 --> 00:49:54.400



it's quite a grounded, you know, like theme to take84400:49:54.440 --> 00:49:55.440



away from the film.84500:49:56.159 --> 00:49:56.760



I love that.84600:49:57.360 --> 00:50:00.760



Thank you so much for speaking with me. I cannot84700:50:00.760 --> 00:50:04.760



wait for everybody to see Kato Lake exclusively on Max.84800:50:04.800 --> 00:50:09.199



Eliza, thank you, thank you so much, of course you too,84900:50:09.559 --> 00:50:14.400



Eliza Scanln. What she does in Kado Lake is incredible.85000:50:14.440 --> 00:50:19.119



I mean, she's an incredible actress anyway, but I really really,85100:50:22.199 --> 00:50:23.119



you gotta watch.85200:50:22.920 --> 00:50:26.079



It, and you gotta watch her performance. She's just so good.85300:50:26.880 --> 00:50:29.440



All Right, last, but not least, for the show, I85400:50:29.440 --> 00:50:34.440



am once again the incredible Dylan O'Brien returns. He was85500:50:34.559 --> 00:50:36.760



last on the show in twenty twenty.85600:50:36.519 --> 00:50:40.760



Two to talk about the Hulu film Not Okay that85700:50:40.840 --> 00:50:44.440



he started, but in case you needed a reminder, he85800:50:44.559 --> 00:50:49.159



kind of broke through with Style Stelenski in the MTV85900:50:49.320 --> 00:50:53.119



series teen Wolf, and of course he was the lead86000:50:53.159 --> 00:50:56.199



in the Maze Runner trilogy. It was Bumblebee in the86100:50:56.239 --> 00:51:02.159



Transformers film Bumblebee. And he's done an incredible amount of86200:51:02.199 --> 00:51:06.239



work everywhere else, from playing in pony Boy, he plays86300:51:06.280 --> 00:51:09.400



dan Aykroyd right now and Saturday Night, and he's won86400:51:09.679 --> 00:51:12.440



so many awards, So let's just bring him back right.86500:51:12.280 --> 00:51:14.920



Now, Dylan O'Brien.86600:51:15.599 --> 00:51:18.320



So, first of all, Dylan, welcome back to iHeartRadio's pop86700:51:18.360 --> 00:51:21.280



culture weekly. I appreciate you hanging out with me.86800:51:22.599 --> 00:51:24.760



Oh yeah, here before.86900:51:24.639 --> 00:51:28.119



You have It's all good.87000:51:28.480 --> 00:51:32.079



It was yeah, it was last year for for a87100:51:32.119 --> 00:51:38.119



film you did and uh what uh it was? Oh87200:51:38.199 --> 00:51:41.519



my god, you had blonde hair. I'm totally drawing a blank.87300:51:41.880 --> 00:51:45.280



Oh shit, Okay, ago a couple of years ago.87400:51:45.440 --> 00:51:46.000



Was it that long?87500:51:46.159 --> 00:51:46.480



It's not?87600:51:46.719 --> 00:51:49.000



Okay, not okay, thank you.87700:51:49.039 --> 00:51:53.440



There you go, and now you're back for this. So87800:51:53.559 --> 00:51:56.920



I appreciate you. Uh, I appreciate your time. But so87900:51:57.400 --> 00:51:59.679



first of all, congratulations on the project.88000:51:59.760 --> 00:52:00.119



It is.88100:52:01.320 --> 00:52:05.360



You know, it's really great. You know, it's a genre88200:52:05.519 --> 00:52:10.920



bending film that I'm in love with it. I wondered88300:52:11.320 --> 00:52:13.159



what drew you to it?88400:52:15.760 --> 00:52:19.360



So many things. First of all, thanks, really appreciate it.88500:52:21.800 --> 00:52:24.639



I guess I'll start with Celine and Logan, the filmmakers88600:52:24.719 --> 00:52:25.400



they were.88700:52:27.679 --> 00:52:30.719



They had sort of this eclectic array of these really.88800:52:30.559 --> 00:52:35.800



Dynamic short films that I was kind of sent a88900:52:35.840 --> 00:52:37.719



few years ago, four or four years ago now, I89000:52:37.719 --> 00:52:41.360



think it was twenty twenty, and I just thought that89100:52:41.440 --> 00:52:44.920



they were so gifted and I wanted to meet with them.89200:52:44.960 --> 00:52:47.199



So we kind of just like zoomed generally, and I89300:52:47.280 --> 00:52:52.639



really like dug their vibe and their passion and their sensibility.89400:52:52.920 --> 00:52:58.519



And a year later, maybe even less like eight or89500:52:58.599 --> 00:53:01.320



nine months later, they like sent me this project. Usually,89600:53:01.320 --> 00:53:03.199



like you take those general meetings and then it's even89700:53:03.239 --> 00:53:06.280



if you like vibe with someone, it's like so rare89800:53:06.320 --> 00:53:08.159



that something comes of it. They like followed up and89900:53:08.199 --> 00:53:10.400



like sent me this script. And the first thing that90000:53:10.440 --> 00:53:11.519



I opened was sort.90100:53:11.360 --> 00:53:11.800



Of a.90200:53:13.519 --> 00:53:16.880



Some footage that they had gone down to Cato Lake90300:53:16.960 --> 00:53:20.079



and shot with their TP and it so the first90400:53:20.079 --> 00:53:23.280



thing that I opened up was this stunning shot of90500:53:23.320 --> 00:53:25.199



this lake that I'd never seen before, and I was like,90600:53:25.320 --> 00:53:30.239



what the fuck is this place? And the sounds were90700:53:30.360 --> 00:53:34.639



so I just was immediately sort of like wow, what90800:53:34.719 --> 00:53:39.519



a cinematic element, you know, to set something in. And90900:53:39.519 --> 00:53:41.440



then I dove into the scripts from there and I91000:53:41.599 --> 00:53:46.639



just really I was really drawn in by the grounded91100:53:48.840 --> 00:53:51.920



nature to the characters and the way that they were written,91200:53:51.920 --> 00:53:53.599



in the way that the world was built. And it91300:53:53.639 --> 00:53:59.599



was sort of this family drama dripping with like a91400:53:59.599 --> 00:54:03.280



little cot of mystery and sort of like spins into91500:54:03.320 --> 00:54:09.119



this heightened you know, sort of like uses a divisive91600:54:09.239 --> 00:54:13.239



kind of like you know, supernatural element to kind.91700:54:13.079 --> 00:54:15.559



Of round out that story.91800:54:15.800 --> 00:54:21.199



The family drama ultimately about really about loss, love and family,91900:54:21.400 --> 00:54:23.599



and you know, I thought that was just fantastic.92000:54:24.880 --> 00:54:28.840



Yeah, I was talking to the filmmakers yesterday and they92100:54:28.880 --> 00:54:31.360



said that this all started from a photo they saw92200:54:31.440 --> 00:54:36.119



on Reddit, which I think is incredible and then spun92300:54:36.280 --> 00:54:36.840



into this.92400:54:37.079 --> 00:54:40.559



And speaking with Logan, he had lost his mom and92500:54:40.679 --> 00:54:42.039



I had lost my mom.92600:54:42.559 --> 00:54:46.519



So we were, you know, talking about that and how92700:54:47.039 --> 00:54:51.599



it turned into this piece for him on his end,92800:54:51.760 --> 00:54:56.280



that that was about this profound grief that you know,92900:54:56.320 --> 00:54:59.559



they were able to make, like turn this into something93000:54:59.599 --> 00:55:03.679



that he was able to channel his grief through as93100:55:03.719 --> 00:55:04.440



as you know.93200:55:04.599 --> 00:55:09.199



As the project happened. I do find it super.93300:55:08.840 --> 00:55:12.079



Interesting the and I'm trying to be as spoiler free93400:55:12.079 --> 00:55:16.639



as possible the back and forth if you obviously you93500:55:16.679 --> 00:55:19.400



know what I mean. But but how how was that93600:55:19.599 --> 00:55:22.719



for you as an actor to be able to kind93700:55:22.760 --> 00:55:26.840



of know that these story wise, these two things are93800:55:26.880 --> 00:55:30.119



going on. Is is it hard for you to kind93900:55:30.119 --> 00:55:34.559



of keep those How do I say it? Is it94000:55:34.599 --> 00:55:36.559



hard for you to kind of organize those in your94100:55:36.559 --> 00:55:39.679



mind as an actor? Or does it kind of muddy94200:55:39.719 --> 00:55:40.760



the waters a bit?94300:55:42.239 --> 00:55:46.000



You know what it's And I'm gonna be careful too.94400:55:46.519 --> 00:55:52.159



That's really hard. Uh, it's it's it's one of those94500:55:52.159 --> 00:55:56.239



things you just at the beginning of the movie, I94600:55:56.320 --> 00:55:58.880



was like, you know what, I need to put this94700:55:58.920 --> 00:56:03.039



out of my head and trust Selene and Logan. That's94800:56:03.079 --> 00:56:06.760



at the end of the day, like they're tracking everything.94900:56:09.400 --> 00:56:12.480



I think if I if I try to sort of95000:56:13.320 --> 00:56:19.400



be overly conscious about how these sort of intertwining like95100:56:19.519 --> 00:56:24.679



narratives link, I think it would strip away a lot95200:56:24.719 --> 00:56:29.639



of the grounded and like naturalistic nature that the film really.95300:56:31.320 --> 00:56:34.000



Runs on. At the end of the day. It's fueled95400:56:34.079 --> 00:56:35.800



by this.95500:56:37.920 --> 00:56:42.719



Authentic sort of sense of realism and the spirit of95600:56:42.760 --> 00:56:47.960



this community and this environment. And I think I just95700:56:48.000 --> 00:56:50.920



needed to sort of like as my character would, right,95800:56:51.119 --> 00:56:54.599



we're real people in these you know what become very95900:56:54.639 --> 00:57:00.960



extraordinary circumstances. And I believe that just sort of staying96000:57:01.000 --> 00:57:07.239



grounded and honest in that was like the recipe that96100:57:07.360 --> 00:57:12.599



the the ingredients, the ingredients that the recipe required, like96200:57:12.679 --> 00:57:14.760



for the film, I cass and sort of just trusting96300:57:14.800 --> 00:57:19.400



Selena and Logan's sensibility to handle the rest and and96400:57:19.599 --> 00:57:23.920



to make sure that the that the narratives were were96500:57:23.960 --> 00:57:27.800



cohesive and sinking and and yeah, I.96600:57:27.719 --> 00:57:30.119



Guess that's the thought on that.96700:57:30.239 --> 00:57:31.079



Okay, I love that.96800:57:31.199 --> 00:57:34.719



And finally I'm a huge film buff obviously, and I96900:57:34.800 --> 00:57:38.360



love M Night is one of my favorites. He was97000:57:38.360 --> 00:57:41.199



a producer on on the film. What was that like97100:57:41.320 --> 00:57:44.800



for you? You know, you're a film buff yourself, what97200:57:45.239 --> 00:57:47.519



was that like for you? You know, to be involved97300:57:47.719 --> 00:57:49.920



with like, you know, I just feel like everything he97400:57:50.000 --> 00:57:53.920



touches is for me, like so like amazing, you know.97500:57:54.920 --> 00:57:55.679



How was that for you?97600:57:56.920 --> 00:58:00.239



Well? He was what a what a great chance in97700:58:00.559 --> 00:58:04.519



to have come in and support these filmmakers, you know,97800:58:04.639 --> 00:58:08.679



So I just think he's somebody who I agree with you.97900:58:08.719 --> 00:58:10.559



I see everything MNET does.98000:58:12.679 --> 00:58:12.920



You know.98100:58:13.159 --> 00:58:18.840



I love that he self finances and you know, really98200:58:18.880 --> 00:58:23.639



believes in, you know, autonomy for a filmmaker. And so98300:58:24.199 --> 00:58:30.000



when we were sort of attached to this script and98400:58:30.159 --> 00:58:35.360



sort of about to take it out to financiers, because98500:58:35.360 --> 00:58:37.159



that's kind of how it came together, you know, Selene98600:58:37.159 --> 00:58:39.719



and Logan got hired to do a couple of episodes98700:58:40.280 --> 00:58:44.599



on his show, and he just fell in love with98800:58:44.639 --> 00:58:49.840



them because they're so infectious and talented and you know, passionate,98900:58:51.239 --> 00:58:54.880



and he just begged to know like what was next99000:58:54.880 --> 00:58:56.480



for them, if they had anything in the pipeline, if99100:58:56.480 --> 00:58:59.679



they'd written anything, and they they gave him this, and99200:58:59.719 --> 00:59:01.559



he was like, I want to finance this. I want99300:59:01.559 --> 00:59:03.440



to help you guys make this, you know. So it99400:59:03.519 --> 00:59:07.880



was sort of like incredible news. We were like just99500:59:07.920 --> 00:59:10.280



about to take the movie out as like an independent99600:59:11.199 --> 00:59:15.119



feature with Eliza and I attached, and we immediately got99700:59:15.199 --> 00:59:18.079



financing from m Night. It was going to be and99800:59:18.119 --> 00:59:21.760



it was I'm pretty certain of the first project that99900:59:21.800 --> 00:59:25.320



he financed outside of one of his own directorial efforts.100000:59:25.800 --> 00:59:31.159



And just what a gift to have that type of producer,100100:59:31.599 --> 00:59:34.519



you know, in the kitchen, right because I think the100200:59:34.599 --> 00:59:39.159



main concern would be, particularly with these like talented filmmakers,100300:59:39.159 --> 00:59:41.519



would be like, Okay, well, hopefully we don't end up100400:59:41.559 --> 00:59:45.360



somewhere where they're being really micromanaged.100500:59:44.679 --> 00:59:46.760



You know, or like we're not you know.100600:59:47.280 --> 00:59:50.519



Being allowed to take the swing ultimately that we creatively100700:59:50.559 --> 00:59:51.000



want to be.100800:59:51.079 --> 00:59:51.840



Taking, you know.100900:59:52.760 --> 00:59:55.320



So it was really great to have such a seasoned101000:59:56.800 --> 01:00:00.280



filmmaker in his own right come on as a producer, sir,101101:00:00.599 --> 01:00:06.599



and be there to support these young and gifted filmmakers,101201:00:08.199 --> 01:00:10.760



you know, and and let with you know, sometimes the101301:00:10.760 --> 01:00:14.519



best support is is space, you know, sort of like101401:00:15.559 --> 01:00:18.360



allowing them to you know, flourish and then setting the101501:00:18.440 --> 01:00:21.159



environment for them and giving them the resources they need101601:00:21.199 --> 01:00:23.480



and then like go, you know, do what you guys101701:00:23.519 --> 01:00:24.880



do and and you.101801:00:24.840 --> 01:00:27.039



Know, get out there, evolve, learn, you know what I mean.101901:00:27.079 --> 01:00:29.840



It's going to be the the biggest feature that they've102001:00:29.920 --> 01:00:34.199



done yet. And but they're they're so fantastic and and102101:00:34.559 --> 01:00:37.960



you know, they grew a lot throughout the shoot, you know,102201:00:38.079 --> 01:00:40.559



like we all do every time out, you know, And yeah,102301:00:40.559 --> 01:00:41.039



it was great.102401:00:41.079 --> 01:00:43.599



Happy to m night as as our champion for that.102501:00:44.079 --> 01:00:44.639



I love that.102601:00:44.719 --> 01:00:47.000



Dylan, thank you so much for speaking with me. I102701:00:47.000 --> 01:00:50.039



can't wait for everybody to see it, Uh so I102801:00:50.039 --> 01:00:51.440



can talk about it first of all.102901:00:52.280 --> 01:00:55.039



Yeah, yeah, for sure, I really we really care a103001:00:55.119 --> 01:00:55.840



lot about this one.103101:00:55.920 --> 01:00:59.960



So yeah, I really appreciate your questions and your passion103201:01:00.079 --> 01:01:02.400



for it. And yeah, spread the word. I hope, you know,103301:01:02.480 --> 01:01:04.760



people check it out. I hope it catches a little.103401:01:04.599 --> 01:01:07.199



Bit of fire, you know, absolutely, brother, thank you man,103501:01:07.239 --> 01:01:08.719



I really appreciate it.103601:01:08.800 --> 01:01:09.519



Jeers, thank you.103701:01:09.599 --> 01:01:10.239



Have a great day.103801:01:10.639 --> 01:01:15.719



Dylan O'Brien, thanks of course to Dylan and everybody else103901:01:15.840 --> 01:01:20.079



who came and talked to me. Kato Lake is out104001:01:20.280 --> 01:01:22.079



right now on Max.104101:01:22.159 --> 01:01:26.880



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