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Dylan O'Brien & Eliza Scanlan (Caddo Lake); Scott Speedman (Teacup)

Dylan O'Brien & Eliza Scanlan (Caddo Lake); Scott Speedman (Teacup)

What if your Halloween film lineup could leave you questioning the very fabric of reality? Join me, Kyle McMahon, in a chilling conversation with the stars of "Caddo Lake," Dylan O'Brien and Eliza Scanlen, as we unravel the enigmatic story of...

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What if your Halloween film lineup could leave you questioning the very fabric of reality? Join me, Kyle McMahon, in a chilling conversation with the stars of "Caddo Lake," Dylan O'Brien and Eliza Scanlen, as we unravel the enigmatic story of mysterious disappearances and the horror series Teacup.

Experience the gripping universe of "Teacup," the mesmerizing & terrifying horror series on Peacock. Listen to creator Ian McCulloch, and stars Yvonne Strahovski, and Scott Speedman as they share how they brought this complex story from page to screen. With James Wan's influence, the series blends family dynamics with horror elements to create an intricate narrative that captivates viewers. Actors Chaske Spencer and Rob Morgan further enrich our discussion by sharing how isolation and societal themes resonate through their characters, offering a fresh take on genre storytelling.

Then, supported by legendary producer M. Night Shyamalan and crafted by the visionary filmmakers Celine Held and Logan George, Caddo Lake, a MAX exclusive film, is a spellbinding journey into suspense that you won't want to miss this spooky season.

Finally, we venture into the creative depths of "Caddo Lake's" production journey, uncovering how a photograph transformed into a compelling narrative, enriched by M. Night Shyamalan's support. Eliza Scanlen gives us a glimpse into her experience navigating this haunting story, and Dylan O'Brien returns to reflect on the challenges and emotional layers that define his role in the film. This episode is packed with thrilling insights and behind-the-scenes stories that will keep every horror and suspense fan on the edge of their seat.

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Transcript
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In this episode of pop Culture Weekly, I talk with

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the stars of Kaddo Lake, including Dylan O'Brien who returns

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and Eliza Scalen, and I talked to the cast of

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Tea Coop, the Really Creepy series on Peacock Right Now,

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Scott Speedman, Von Strowski and more.

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Let's go Welcome to pop Culture Weekly with Kyle McMahon

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from my Heart Radio your pop culture news, views, reviews

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and celebrity interviews on all the movies, TV, music and

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pomp culture u CRABE Weekly. Here's Kyle McMahon.

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Nett no no, no net, Hello, and welcome to pop

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Culture Weekly with Kyle McMahon.

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It's an October episode, and you.

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Know that I love Halloween, I love spooky season, I

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love horror, so this is a great episode for all

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of you fellow you know, spooky horror lovers. Talk with

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the cast of Kato Lake, which is a HBO Max

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film written and directed by Selene Held and Logan George

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who I speak with, and it stars Dylan O'Brien, Eliza Scanlin,

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Eric Lang, Lauren Ambrose and guests.

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Who serves as producer of that.

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Film, m Knight, Shyamalin himself and you know I love

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m Knight and this film is really amazing. It is

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available right now on Max. Kato Lake is about a

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eight year old girl who disappears on Kado Lake, which

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is a real place, and then a series of past

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deaths and mysterious disappearances I'll begin to link together. It

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is extremely great. I really really loved it. Very spooky,

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twisty thriller. I really highly recommend you watch it. It

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is well well well well worth your time, especially at

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spooky season. It doesn't have to be because it's you know,

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a great thriller, but it's perfect for spooky season. So

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uh so I speak with the filmmakers Selene Held and

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Logan George as well as Dylan O'Brien returns once again.

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We talk about the film and Eliza.

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Scanlin and also Tea Cup, which is this incredible horror

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series on Peacock produced by Ian McCulloch and James Wand

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you know I love James Wand and it stars Yvon Strowsky,

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who you may know is the Emmy multi Emmy nominated

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actor from such series as The Handmaid's Tale and Chuck

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and Dexter and twenty four and Scott Speedman, who I

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love Scott. He kind of became big with Felicity, the

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series Felicity and then played Michael Corvin in the Underworld

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film franchise. He's been in Triple X, State of the Union,

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The Strangers, which is one of my favorite scary movies ever.

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And for Grey's Anatomy fans, doctor Nick Marsh who he

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has played on and off for a long time. So

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he joins me as well. So let's get right into

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this all spooky episode of Pop Culture Weekly. We are

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going to start off with the cast and filmmakers behind Teacup.

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So let's talk to.

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Ian McCulloch, who is executive producer and writer as he

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gives us some insight into how he took Teacup from

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a beloved book to a series.

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Let's speak with him Ian McCulloch.

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First of all, thank you Ian for speaking with me.

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I really appreciate it.

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Oh sure, nice to meet you.

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Nice to meet you. So, first of all, congratulations on Teacup.

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I absolutely love it. I'm a huge genre fan and

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this does an amazing job of not only being great

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genre work, but it's very layered and you know, there's

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it's a great drama, there's family stuff going on. You know,

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it's so layered, and I really appreciate that as a

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as a fan.

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So thank you, well, thank you.

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That's that's really good to hear.

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So tell me about why, you know, why you were

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attracted to this project and and and also taking it

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from a book but not you kind of took the

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essence of the book and and kind of did it

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did did it your own way? What was that important

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to you? And why did you Why was it important

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for you to do this project and why did you

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decide to do it in the way you did.

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Uh. Well, James Wallan's company came to me with the

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book and they said, here's a book. We're looking for

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somebody to adapt it. Would you give it a read?

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want to do this page for page, character for character adaptation.

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becomes interesting to me because the book still exists. If

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you want to go read the book, go read the book.

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It's a really good book. But the series is its

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own thing. And you said it perfectly, it's the essence

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of the book and nothing more. And I thought, what

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if you take away all the bells and whistles. What

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if you take away the town, you take away all

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the characters, take away the set pieces, the big crazy

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stuff that happens in the book, and you just deal

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with the ground level. And I use this in quotations

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reality of a family dealing with what happens in the book.

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And to me, that opened all the doors for me.

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It's the way to make it a long form narrative

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where you're invested in these characters and you see where

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they go. Because you're with this family at all times,

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you're at ground level with them experiencing this, and in

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that way, the audience experiences it with them, and that

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to me was really exciting. Now there's two things. One,

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James One and his company needed to feel the same way,

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and two, more importantly, Robert McCammon needed to feel the

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same way. And I, instead of asking for permission, I

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asked for forgiveness. I went and wrote a script which

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is basically the episode. One showed it to Atomic Monster

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in James and they said, fantastic, we love it. And

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then we showed it to Robert McCammon and he said,

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oh wow, this is really cool. This is different and

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he got on board, and those are the two voices

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that I needed to hear say yes before I could

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really invest, and we went from there.

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Was there any nervousness in because it you know, I

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would say a lot of times in this industry, you know,

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there's a lot of studio meddling, you know, where you

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don't want to stray from the norm and you want

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to go with something that's always worked. So there, you know,

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there is a bit of a risk in that. Was

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there any nervousness on your part, especially going to demand

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that wrote the book, where you'd like, here's what it

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is and here's my vision for it.

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I think that's and I was sure that as sure

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as I've ever been that it that it was the

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that it would work, not that it was the right

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thing to do, but that it would work. And I

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think going into something go whether it's going to James

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or McCammon, or to UCP or to Peacock. If you

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go in and you say this is the thing, you

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want to get on board this thing because it's really cool,

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then if they don't, then it's not for them. It's

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not that it's bad. It's not that it's but if

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you believe in it, it's gonna show. And that you know,

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there's a thousand reasons why they say no in this business,

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and I've been told no a thousand times, so maybe

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that's part of it as well. But I'm not nervous

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because the worst thing is they say no and they

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go home and have a sandwich, or they make it

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and I tell somebody else to get me a sandwich.

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Right, I love that. And finally, just in the spirit

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of Teacup, you know, so often there's so much amazing

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genre work that's overlooked. What is one of your favorite pieces,

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whether you know a long form or a film that

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you feel is overlooked.

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Oh man, I have the perfect example, but I can't

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remember what it's called. It's overlooked. Shoot, what is it called.

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It's so good. I can't think of it. Really hard

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because I know it, but I don't remember what it's called.

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It's like three times something song I don't remember. I

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don't remember. There's so many though, there's a I don't know. Jeez,

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that's a hard question. Shit, it's gonna be my first failure.

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In interviews today, I don't remember what it's called. All right,

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remember it like in five minutes exactly.

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There you go.

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Thank you. That's all right, Ian, thank you so much.

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I really appreciate speaking with you.

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All right, good talking to you.

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Ian mccullag. I love what he's done with Peacock.

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It is a really great horror, like legit terrifying series.

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It's so good. As a horror fan, you should watch it.

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If you're looking for something spooky, just for the Halloween

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spooky season, you should watch it. Jump right in, all right,

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Next up Chosky and Sir and Rob Morgan. Chowsky gained

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prominence as Sam Yuley in the Twilight films. He's also

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nominated for a British Academy Television Award for the BBC

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and Prime Video series The English. He's also been in Banshee,

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Sneaky Pete, and blind Spot, among many many others. Rob

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Morgan is known I love, I mean, all of his work,

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but you know, he's probably best known for his role

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as Turk Barrett in the Marvel Netflix series.

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You know, I'm a huge mcu fan, Marvel Studios.

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Fan, but he played Turk and daredevil Luke Cage, The Punisher,

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Jessica Jones, The Defenders, Iron.

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Fist, and I loved every second of it. He also

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played Hap Jackson and mud Bound Officer Powell of course

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in Stranger Things, and he is joining us with Chosky.

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So let's jump right into it. My conversation, my conversate,

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my conversation with Rob Morgan and Chosky Spencer.

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Thank you both for speaking with me. Thank you for

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having us Kyle of course. So, first of all, I

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love a teacup. It is so I'm a huge genre fan,

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but I think this is interesting because it works on

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many layers, not just as you know genre work, but uh,

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it's you know, there's drama and family and all kinds

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of things. So I wondered if for both of you

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that was also something that drew you to it. But

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you know, as as an actor.

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Oh man, it's special to get material like this where

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you actually get such quality writing with such in depth

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characters that you can download and play without having to

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figure it out so much on your own, but actually

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like just taking the tip in front of you and

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just really living it as honestly as possible. And it

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was a treat to have that.

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Yeah, it makes our job easier to do what we

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do if the writing spot.

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On And had either of you read you know, I

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know it's inspired by the book, but had had either

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of you read the book before you took on the role,

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or I read a little bit of it, But then

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I found out that it what Ian did was take

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the essence of the book and create something on his own.

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So I just kind of put the book away and

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just right to the source.

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And when I realized that they were doing something unique

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and special of their own that was like inspired by

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the book but not totally going by the book verbatim,

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I just trusted in the scripts in my own research

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and went with that. So I didn't read the book,

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but I read the scripts.

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Gotcha. And both of you have been involved in uh

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in you know, the Marvel universe for instance, and you

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know all kinds of work all over in all kinds

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of spaces in entertainment, film, content, television. What drew you

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to Teacup?

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It was Ian? It was I, yeah, writing all that.

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Yeah, Ian, the opportunity to work with Peacock and seeing

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un much they've been investing in quality shows, and then

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with James wand name at the top of it, knowing

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his his resume and success, it just felt like a

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dream come true for an actor that really, you know,

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put in hard work and time to get to this

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M and for you, you know, I was talking to Scott

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and Yvonne and it popped up regarding isolation and how

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we've all kind of lived in isolation for at least

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a short period a few years ago. Has that affected

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you as an actor when you're doing something, you know,

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in a script like this, you know, series like this,

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where so much of it is based around isolation and

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that sort of thing, and we're kind of at a

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unique place in history where you know, there's not many

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points in history where you can say we were all

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kind of isolated, but then you have this series that

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much a part of the story. Does that affect you?

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now I had had that on my resume, so I

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can you know or are you able to just it's

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in the script and so I'm gonna do that.

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I'm still isolated, I'm still living in isolation.

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things like that do it does help, Like actors, I

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think anything you give us we can absorb because we

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take it and do what we can with it. So

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it's just an added character.

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just the directors to like, you know, keep us in

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line with the tonality that we're trying to execute here.

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I love that And for either of you. Finally, what what?

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feel as a horror fan, I feel personally I'm a

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film buff obviously, but I love horror in particular. I

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often feel that there's some great work that's overlooked, uh,

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just because you know, especially with so many critics and stuff,

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it kind of gets snubbed sometimes and there's sometimes this

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feeling of or this air of you know, like or

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superior over that genre or something, which I think is

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a mistake. You know, there's incredible work like Teacup that

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is very much in the genre vein, but but it

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is also so much deeper than you know, a typical

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slasher or whatever. What if you could pick one of

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kind of those underlooked genre films for both of you,

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Rob and Shaske, What what would you what would that

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be for you?

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Overlook genre film? Can I go back to the eighties

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for Beach Street?

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I think that was overlooked because from where I was

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at my life and time, that was such a true

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depiction of culture that I really related to. But I

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seemed like I was the only one that liked it.

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for me and my crowd, it was like the Bible

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at the time, you know what I mean.

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Beach Street that I remember that.

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I like stuff like that. I liked The Third.

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don't unless your film buff, don't really know about that movie.

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So I'm I'm a big fan of that type of genre.

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Awesome. I love that. Thank you both so much for

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speaking with me. I can't wait for everybody to see

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Teacup so I can talk about it.

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Thanks have a great day. Rob Morgan and Showsky Spencer

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love those guys. Love their roles in Teacup, which again

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exclusively on Peacock.

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It is so good. You gotta watch it. It's really terrifying.

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It's like it's you know, how often do we get

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a really actually scary TV series? This is one of them.

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So check it out, all right. Next up, we talk

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with the two main stars themselves, Scott Speedman and Yvonne Strowsky.

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I talked about them a little bit more at the

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top of the show, but let's just jump right into

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it right now here. They are Scott Speedman and Yvonne strav.

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First of all, thank you both so much for speaking

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with me. I really appreciate it.

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Thanks for having us.

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Of course. So tell me a little bit. You know,

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both of you have done such varied roles, and you've

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both had some horror in your you know, in your filmography.

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Why is it something that you know, something like teacup

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that Why is that something a genre that you'd like

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to go back to.

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I don't know if I think of it as a

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genre that I like to go back to. It's more

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it's more, I mean, every project is, you know, in

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case by case really, so it's it depends on the script,

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it depends on the people involved, it depends on how

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much fun or challenge I'm going to have as an

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actor on it, And I think this one ticked all

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the boxes pretty much for me. I mean, it was

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a great piece of writing. Ian is such a lovely

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human being, and as a first time a showrunner, was

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just super thoughtful and how he wanted to approach this.

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And I think that's what attracted me to the project,

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is not that we had a showrunner who wanted to

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make some kind of a classic horror with all the

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gore and the thrill. He wanted to make a horror

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with an amazingly grounded foundation of relationships and family and

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stuff that I think audiences can truly relate to, which

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sort of elevates the piece in a way that we

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might not often see.

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So yeah, okay, how.

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About for you, Scott, Yeah, I mean somewhat of a

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similar answer. It's not like I'm digging and searching and

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asking a representation find me the next horror thing or

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something in the genre space. I mean these scripts came

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along when they did, and I knew Evian's work from

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other things, and I was kind of really excited to

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see what he was going to do with something in

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this space because his work previously he wasn't. That's not

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really what floats his boat. So when I got the scripts,

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I was really excited. He nailed the world really well

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and the family really well, and the whole the idea

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of this family isolated on this farm in Georgia. I

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thought the drama of that whole situation alone was like

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really interesting and I thought, really going to be watchable

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for an audience. So when they started to add in

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the genre elements and I knew James Wand's company was gonna,

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you know, be behind the scenes with us here, I thought, Wow,

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this really could have something special going on.

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But I mean it was. It was, honestly, man.

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There were just there were good scripts, you know, there

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were good scripts that came along, and you just you're

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always searching for stuff like that.

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I love that. And you know, part of the reason

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that I love Teacup is that, you know, I think

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at a very human level, isolation is a scary thing

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for many of us were you know, social creatures, and

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that that alone is is scary for so many people,

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you know, and of course we've all recently collectively went

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through a very isolating, you know event that that I think,

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you know, tends to be on the back of our

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minds today now, and then you take that and then

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you have this great script on top of it with

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you know, it's really I love that there's drama. You know,

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it's not just a slasher or it's not just a

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straight up horror you know series, it's a it is

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very layered and so you know, so speaking to that

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we have, you know, we are four years out from

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a worldwide pandemic the beginnings of it. Does that change

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you as an actor? You know, now that you've kind

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of had this isolating experience and now you're playing characters

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that are forced to be isolated. I feel like almost

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if I was an actor, Like it's almost like I

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have real life experience now with that, you know what

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I'm saying. Has that changed either of you?

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I mean, for me, I think that whole situation changed

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all of us. So yes, collectively, of course, And I

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think we all have a different understanding of when something

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strange starts to happen, and you know, then you include

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your neighbors and your other the other parts of the

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town you're in and all that sort of stuff. I

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think collectively we just sort of subconsciously understand that and

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I think that's where some of the dread of this

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show comes in. And I think we all look at

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shows like this where you're not sure of what's happening

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to you, to your family, to the next family over

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to that family over there, to your neighbors.

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So we all have.

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An eerie, unsettled feeling around all that that when we

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start to watch our show, you can't not help but

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feel some shared subconscious thing that's going on for the viewers.

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So yeah, I mean on that level, but not something

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overt that. Like I read these scripts and I was like, oh, well,

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I know this now because of COVID or something right right,

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something a little more subtle, but yeah, it's in there

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for sure.

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How about for you, Bun, I don't know.

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I you know, I, as a Scott was spoking. I

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just sort of thought, you know, to add to that,

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it's interesting also to see how individuals, how dynamics play

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out in that circumstance, and certainly in real life and

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a pandemic, we had a lot of different opinions about

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how things should be or what was real what wasn't

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a lot of it political, so it's interesting to sort

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of bring it right down to this like microcosm and

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have and and and have characters that were sort of

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representative of that greater world that we all lived in.

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So yeah, that that's sort of what comes to mind

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when when we're talking about this.

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And finally James want you know, I'm a huge fan

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of his uh and and this you know, this is

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obviously based on a novel. Had had I either of

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you knew of the novel beforehand or did you read

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it in preparation for filming tea Cup?

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Oh?

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Sorry, no, I mean given that Ian, you know, Dean

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has always said this was the novel was an inspirational piece,

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but that a lot of it became different in how

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he had approached the show, and he kind of did

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that from the get go. So I didn't really feel

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it necessary to read it. Otherwise I probably would have.

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I usually would read something like that, but this might

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be the first time that I hadn't.

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Yeah awesome, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I didn't read

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it either. He was like, he, I think that book

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is like a huge book. It's like this huge story

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that involves the whole town and you know, like many many,

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many many characters, and he wanted to do a very

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much smaller story version of that, which I thought was

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a smart place to at least start the show.

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Se Yeah, well I love it. I can't wait for

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everybody to see it. Thank you, Yvonna and Scott. Teacup

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coming very very soon. Thank you, thank you, thank you,

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Yvon Strowsky and Scott speed Me. They are so good

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in Teacup and Teacup is so good. You've got to

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watch it. It's available right now on Peacock eight half

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hour episodes and it's well well well worth your time.

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The final two episodes will be premiering on Halloween of

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twenty twenty four. So depending on when you watch this,

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it's either coming out is out. It's either coming out

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or is out. So whatever one it is, there it is.

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I'm not making any sense, but you get it. All right.

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That's it for Teacup Peacock series Love Life of Love It.

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Next up, we're going to take a break real quick,

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But let's get right into it.

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00:27:16.759 --> 00:27:21.000
Let's talk with the filmmakers first, Selene Held and Logan George.

458
00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:23.119
First of all, thank you both so much for joining

459
00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:24.480
me or really appreciate it.

460
00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:26.960
Yeah, thanks thanks for you.

461
00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:29.960
Of course, nice meeting you. So, first of all, how

462
00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:32.680
did this project come to be? I heard and you

463
00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:36.880
can clear that if needed, but I heard that it

464
00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:40.759
came about from a photograph that you came upon from

465
00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:41.880
the actual Lake.

466
00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:42.960
Is that accurate?

467
00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:48.640
Read it from Reddit of the Lake, on Reddit.

468
00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:54.839
On earthporn so red earthporn, Yeah, no, sawas photo is

469
00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:59.240
May and we were just really like, what are we

470
00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:03.839
going to do? Our first feature, south By Southwest had

471
00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:07.440
been canceled, our first feature so hadn't seen the light

472
00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:11.079
of day yet, and we felt very stuck. We also

473
00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:14.799
were in this place of not being able to see

474
00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:19.559
our family and kind of this question a very covidy

475
00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:23.359
question maybe in retrospect, but like we were really curious

476
00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:25.680
in thinking about our parents, especially in like.

477
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:28.279
Who they were before we were born.

478
00:28:28.119 --> 00:28:32.400
My mom had passed away in twenty nineteen, and Queen

479
00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:35.599
was talking about these conversations that she had with her

480
00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:38.480
and was bringing up these memories that she had spoken

481
00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:40.599
to Selene about and I was like, I've never heard this,

482
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:43.519
like like it doesn't even sound like my mom. And

483
00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:46.839
so I sort of prompted this question of like, how

484
00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:49.079
well do you really know your parents before you had

485
00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:51.359
this whole life, before you know they gave birth to you.

486
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:54.720
And yeah, so we grabbed my mom, We borrowed my

487
00:28:54.839 --> 00:28:57.559
mom's car so my parents weren't stuck in the house,

488
00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:03.240
and we drove down to Caddo from Brooklyn and it

489
00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:07.319
did not disappoint. It was three million times more magical

490
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:10.359
than that photo could have ever presented itself to us.

491
00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:15.400
And we met these incredible people and spent a few

492
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:19.319
months living off the lake writing that first draft that

493
00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:23.039
was a mess, and then kind of came back to

494
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:26.559
Brooklyn and got a big whiteboard and charted out another

495
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:27.480
draft too.

496
00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:30.680
I love that logan.

497
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:33.799
I I'm so sorry for your loss. I lost my

498
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:38.160
mom three years ago and my life has not been

499
00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:42.480
the same since. And uh, but I wonder how that

500
00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:44.960
you know, I know for me when I when my

501
00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:47.240
mom passed, she passed from pancratic cancer.

502
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:49.440
I had to.

503
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:52.920
Do something with it. And it seems similarly as you know, creators,

504
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:55.160
that's it seems like it's kind.

505
00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:55.599
Of what we do.

506
00:29:56.160 --> 00:30:00.440
So I called the uh, the president of iHeart, and said,

507
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:02.359
I have this idea for a show called death, Grief

508
00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:04.039
and other shit we don't discuss. And I'm going to

509
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:07.480
travel around the country and find out everything that I

510
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:11.039
can about the process of death and dying in the afterlife,

511
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:14.680
and you know all of it and and you guys

512
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:16.720
are gonna pay for it, and so so I did.

513
00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:21.119
But it seems similarly from watching the film and talking

514
00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:23.519
to both of you that that those things have kind

515
00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:30.480
of greatly influenced what you ended up with, would you agree.

516
00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:31.079
Oh yeah, well it's just like you're saying, it just

517
00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:33.720
changes you, uh, you know, forever, So it can't help

518
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:37.279
but start to like be infused into your art and

519
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:42.400
what you write. We definitely wanted to make something that

520
00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:46.599
was like propulsive and wrapped in this genre thriller that

521
00:30:46.680 --> 00:30:49.359
had like a ton of energy and was ultimately very

522
00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:53.319
very entertaining. But yeah, like you know, the core emotionally

523
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:56.039
comes from, you know, something that happens very early on

524
00:30:56.119 --> 00:31:00.160
in the film to Paris played by Dylan and and

525
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:04.200
sort of everything is a ripple from this event that

526
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:07.519
happens to him. So yeah, it was something that sort

527
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:10.559
of I think was always there in the first draft

528
00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:13.559
that we mentioned. It was a female character who had

529
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:17.079
lost her mom, and kind of the big unlock coming

530
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:19.599
back to Brooklyn for us was this idea of like

531
00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:24.359
what if this is actually two protagonists and that sort

532
00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:27.359
of like unlocked this whole new puzzle box that we

533
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:29.640
could weave together and was really like the guiding light

534
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:33.480
of getting the scripture where it was. That made it

535
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:34.680
like really good and fresh.

536
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:39.240
So yeah, and then you know, so now you have

537
00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:41.880
this draft, you're back in Brooklyn, you you're you know,

538
00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:43.720
kind of refining it.

539
00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:48.200
What happens from there, what happens.

540
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:52.000
From there, what happened from there.

541
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:54.119
I was just going to say that it was a

542
00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:58.880
very hard script to kind of iterate and rewrite because

543
00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:02.200
you're you're so locked in the way that everything sort

544
00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:05.880
of loops back and feeds one another every scene. It

545
00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:08.319
was it was, you know, trickier than most sort of

546
00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:13.720
like straight storylines to rewrite. I remember that just being

547
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:15.359
very challenging because it's like, oh, if we want to

548
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:18.039
change this thing, then you have to change these six

549
00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:20.279
things that you haven't been ending anymore. It's like, really

550
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:21.079
really tough.

551
00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:22.640
But we shared.

552
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:28.559
We we were directing for Servant that following January February

553
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:32.319
for Knight's TV show, and Night just said.

554
00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:34.880
Oh, if you ever have a feature, and we were like, oh.

555
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:34.960
We do.

556
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.519
Gave him this s feature that we had and he

557
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:41.559
called us in the next weekend and he said, I'm

558
00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:42.119
financing this.

559
00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:45.000
He was the first person to read it.

560
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:48.960
It was it was it was really surreal, and he

561
00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:50.599
didn't We didn't spend a lot of time on the

562
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:54.799
iteration process in pre production, which I think, and then

563
00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:57.839
in the post production process we spent a lot more

564
00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:00.359
time like reworking, And part of me is like what

565
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:02.880
would have happened? But like Logan said, it all would

566
00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:06.960
have fallen apart. It took actually being there. Eliza Dillon

567
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:10.720
had a lot to do with, like who their characters became,

568
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:14.200
like every life of a project. The life of a

569
00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:17.400
project is in three parts and you have to respect

570
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:21.480
each piece. So like that production part is so different

571
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:23.400
than you know that you can write the best script ever,

572
00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:26.400
everything changes during production, so to write a movie that

573
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:31.960
was ultimately so complicated, everything changed anyway anyway, So what

574
00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:36.960
happened was the project is I don't know, it works somehow,

575
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:39.960
maybe like some duct tape and super glow, but like

576
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:40.559
it works.

577
00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:43.559
I love it and I love the film and I

578
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:46.960
love night He and Servant is one of my favorite

579
00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:51.359
shows ever. I covered, Yeah, I covered it every season.

580
00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:54.680
I talked with the cast and night and then came

581
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:57.480
out to the series finale thing in New York and

582
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:01.440
did all that is It's one of one of my

583
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:04.519
top two three favorite shows ever and I can never

584
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:06.599
figure out which one is number one or two or three.

585
00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:08.760
But but what.

586
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:12.239
Do you hope for for you know, once this this

587
00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:15.000
is out there in the world, what do you what

588
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:18.199
are your wishes for it as the as you have given.

589
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:18.639
Birth to it.

590
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:23.440
I hope people watch it and want to I want

591
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:26.559
to get in touch with family, watch it and want

592
00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:27.400
to like call their mom.

593
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:31.800
That would mean a lot to me. Yeah, I hope it.

594
00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:37.559
Yeah, I hope that it can be something that's like

595
00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:41.000
when you rewatch it, that you'll keep seeing these pieces

596
00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:43.920
that we really carefully put into the beginning.

597
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:48.440
Yeah, that you that you wouldn't recognize first watch.

598
00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:49.280
Yeah.

599
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:52.519
Well, it's just that like some of these relationships we

600
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:56.880
have in our family are so delicate but like so

601
00:34:57.079 --> 00:34:59.000
strong at the same time and.

602
00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:00.239
Sort of like just really.

603
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:04.639
Appreciating that, like Selene saying, like just like you know,

604
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:08.119
hugging your mom or your dad or just your brother,

605
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:10.239
like just like that one second longer.

606
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:11.480
Well you chosen family.

607
00:35:11.639 --> 00:35:15.840
I mean, yeah, I think Ellie at the beginning, you know,

608
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:17.400
and it's even in the trailer her saying, I'm not

609
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:21.320
really to telling these people obviously you know now spoilers,

610
00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:24.840
but but yeah, there's there's something, there's something there and

611
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:26.599
like we we have our family, we also have our

612
00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:29.639
chosen family. We have these people that we choose to

613
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:32.159
go through life with and making sure that they are,

614
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:35.760
you know, totally aware how much they mean to us.

615
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:37.840
I love that.

616
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:41.360
I can't wait for everybody to see the film exclusively

617
00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:45.400
on Max. Selene and Logan, Thank you very much for

618
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:46.079
speaking with me.

619
00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:48.400
Can't wait to check out your podcast.

620
00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:51.199
Thank you, I appreciate it. Take care.

621
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:59.360
Selene out and Logan zors incredibly talented creatives.

622
00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:00.800
I love them.

623
00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:04.840
I love their work with Topside and now Kato Lake,

624
00:36:05.320 --> 00:36:08.079
and I can't wait to see what they do next.

625
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:12.239
All right, We're gonna speak next with Eliza Scanlin.

626
00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:13.480
She is incredible.

627
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:18.639
She kind of broke out in the Australian soap opera

628
00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:22.000
called Home and Away, then in the US and really

629
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:22.880
then the rest of the world.

630
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:26.000
She broke through as a troubled.

631
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:31.199
Teenager in the HBO miniseries called Sharp Objects with Amy Adams.

632
00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:34.079
She played Beth March in Little Women.

633
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:37.639
From twenty nineteen, she played fifteen year old Kara and

634
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:42.119
m knights Old, who was in the incredibly powerful film

635
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:45.599
The Starling Girl. She played Eleanor Roosevelt in the First

636
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:50.679
Lady and now she plays Ellie in Kado Lake. Let's

637
00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:54.400
jump right into my interview with Eliza Scanlon.

638
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:55.199
How are you.

639
00:36:56.039 --> 00:36:56.559
I'm good?

640
00:36:56.599 --> 00:36:58.559
How are you? I'm doing well? Thank you.

641
00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:01.519
First of all, welcome to ir Radios Pop Culture Weekly.

642
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:04.639
I appreciate you joining me. Thank you for having me,

643
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:05.519
of course.

644
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:10.519
So first of all, this film is so incredible.

645
00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:14.280
I love how layered it is, and I'm trying to

646
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:16.719
be a spoiler free as possible, but I love how

647
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:22.119
you know there's multiple things going on, if I can

648
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:23.039
put it that way.

649
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:28.000
What drew you to this film?

650
00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:30.519
I mean, good job on not spoiling anything. It's the

651
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:34.119
hard one to do with this film. Yeah, what drew

652
00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:37.599
me to the project? I mean, first and foremost, they

653
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:41.440
think Selena and Logan, the filmmakers drew me to the project.

654
00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:49.880
They are really talented, unique, distinctive filmmakers. And when this

655
00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:54.639
film arrived in my inbox, I know did a deep dive,

656
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:58.639
as you always do, on the filmmakers, and I watched

657
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:03.760
that film top side, and I mean they've made so

658
00:38:03.920 --> 00:38:06.800
much stuff, but top side their film and also their

659
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:10.239
short film Caroline were two things that blew me away.

660
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:15.440
And I just knew, even from seeing their work that

661
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:20.599
I had to make this thing with them. And then

662
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:24.239
I read the script. The script was unlike anything i'd

663
00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:32.719
read before. It was straddling two very different, you know, sensibilities.

664
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:42.280
I think like you've got, you know, genre mystery with naturalism,

665
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:48.559
very grounded performances, family drama. So yeah, and I'd never

666
00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:51.119
done a like a kind of a film for where

667
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:58.440
the plot was so like action driven. So there were

668
00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:00.239
just like a bunch of things that really excited me

669
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:01.519
about the project.

670
00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:04.599
Yeah, I love that, and that's one of the many

671
00:39:04.679 --> 00:39:08.079
reasons that I love watching it. You know, it's just

672
00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:12.159
for all of the reasons you said, and more. As

673
00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:14.920
you're filming, is it hard for you? I asked Dylan

674
00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:15.519
this as well.

675
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:17.000
Is it hard for you to.

676
00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:23.239
Knowing that there's kind of knowing that what we know

677
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:25.840
as the viewer, as you as an you know, an actor.

678
00:39:26.360 --> 00:39:30.199
Is it hard for you to put certain plot elements

679
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:36.239
away as you're shooting or are you able to be like, Okay, no,

680
00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:38.559
I'm in the here and now for this scene or

681
00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:39.639
how does that work for you?

682
00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:44.000
That's a really good question. I remember finding that really

683
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:49.320
difficult when we were shooting because I mean there were

684
00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:53.239
even moments on set where you know, the people us

685
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:56.639
who you know should be the one to like know

686
00:39:56.760 --> 00:39:58.480
the thing back to front, and you think you do,

687
00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:02.880
until you know you get to a certainty and you're like, wait,

688
00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:06.360
what am I meant to know right now? And like

689
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:11.800
what's happened? And who knows who? And yeah, there's kind

690
00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:16.519
of it definitely messed with you a little bit just

691
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:21.199
keeping track of the story. I did find that really

692
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:25.159
really difficult. But sometimes you kind of just have to

693
00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:27.800
throw that all away and be like, Okay, I'm running

694
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:30.000
down the street. That's that's what I'm doing.

695
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:35.440
And you had worked with Night M Night before, who

696
00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:40.360
he's one of my favorites ever, and you had worked

697
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:44.280
with him in Old How did you come into this?

698
00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:45.679
Was it through M Night?

699
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:48.840
Was it before? And he just happened to come in?

700
00:40:48.920 --> 00:40:49.719
How did that work?

701
00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:56.239
Well, he wasn't part of it initially, but as you know,

702
00:40:56.360 --> 00:41:02.159
Selene and Logan worked with Night on Servant and yeah,

703
00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:06.280
I came onto the project and he learned about the

704
00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:09.760
project and wanted to support it and come on in

705
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:12.199
a producing capacity, which I believe was the first time

706
00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:13.719
that he ever did that.

707
00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:15.960
For somebody else's film, right.

708
00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:18.719
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and so it was a huge deal.

709
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:22.960
And yeah, I think it just like really kind of

710
00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:29.480
bolstered the film and to have his kind of wisdom

711
00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:33.559
and guidance in, you know, throughout the production and post

712
00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:37.880
it was. Yeah, it was kind of like a did

713
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:40.599
not unexpected serendipitous thing to happen.

714
00:41:41.719 --> 00:41:41.920
Yeah.

715
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:44.199
I thought that was interesting, especially for you and and

716
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:46.800
Lauren you know, who of course was on Servant, which

717
00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:51.760
is one of my favorite shows every Yeah. So for you,

718
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:56.360
you know, you've done such varied work, you know, eleanor Roosevelt,

719
00:41:56.440 --> 00:42:00.079
and you know, and what is it like for you

720
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:02.920
as an actor? I mean, obviously you get to choose

721
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:07.760
your roles, but you get a script like this, Is

722
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:10.000
it ever a conscious thing to be like, well, I've

723
00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:11.239
never done anything in.

724
00:42:11.199 --> 00:42:12.280
That space before.

725
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:15.400
Let me dive in and kind of flex my muscles,

726
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:18.280
or does it come down just to the script and

727
00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:19.440
the filmmakers for you?

728
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:22.760
How do you kind of make that choice?

729
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:30.119
I think I'm always looking for things that challenge me,

730
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:33.760
things that I haven't done before. It's very easy to

731
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:41.320
quite quickly fall into the type casting trap. And also

732
00:42:41.440 --> 00:42:43.400
I'm sort of I'm at an age where I can

733
00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:49.239
play still play roles that are quite young, but I'm

734
00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:53.480
also reaching a stage where I'm i can play characters

735
00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:57.039
that are a bit older. So I'm just constantly looking

736
00:42:57.280 --> 00:43:02.400
for Yeah, sometimes it's it's like, because I'm twenty five now,

737
00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:06.079
Sometimes you're like, how many times can I play a

738
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:11.320
coming of age film when I'm twenty five? But you know,

739
00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:14.039
I just think it comes down to the story and

740
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:17.039
if it's if it's trying to do something different, and

741
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:20.480
if it feels like it's exploring, you know, a facet

742
00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:26.039
of yourself that you haven't quite you know, exploriat or

743
00:43:26.119 --> 00:43:29.000
if it's like, if it's scary, that's usually an indicator

744
00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:33.840
to do it. But yeah, yeah, I mean I'm doing it.

745
00:43:33.880 --> 00:43:35.840
Was about to do a play that's a comedy and

746
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:38.280
I don't really do comedies, and I'm a bit l

747
00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:43.559
uh oh, but it'll be it'll be great because if

748
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:45.840
it's scary, that means it's the right thing.

749
00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:48.000
To be doing, right And I know that you mean

750
00:43:48.159 --> 00:43:52.239
scary as in, you know, out of my comfort zone immediately.

751
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:57.199
But as a huge horror fan, are you are you

752
00:43:57.360 --> 00:44:02.360
like a genre fan? Are you a horror or obviously

753
00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:05.000
I wouldn't call this horror. But but are you a

754
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:05.559
horror fan?

755
00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:15.079
I'm not, Okay, I I am weak. I don't really.

756
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:19.320
I mean I feel like there obviously there's such a

757
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:25.519
huge horror fan base, and horror is what keeps you know,

758
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:31.280
movie theaters alive. And but I think like the horror

759
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:37.400
genre is totally expanding, which is really cool. And it's like,

760
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:40.920
I guess like there was probably a day, you know,

761
00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:43.639
probably five years ago if you told if you ask

762
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:46.239
me whether I like horror, I'd be like, no, I

763
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:49.320
don't like horror. But I feel like I've had a

764
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:53.800
I've learned more about the genre, and I yeah, I

765
00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:56.800
just feel like there's some really interesting things happening in

766
00:44:56.880 --> 00:45:00.320
horror at the moment. So I certainly something I want

767
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:01.360
to explore, that's for.

768
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:03.119
Sure, okay. Uh.

769
00:45:03.159 --> 00:45:05.599
And I love that, you know, as a horror fan

770
00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:08.840
and as a testament to what you're saying, you know,

771
00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:12.719
there are serious filmmakers that are you know, exploring in

772
00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:18.679
horror and kind of pushing the boundaries as creators and actors.

773
00:45:18.280 --> 00:45:21.960
And you know, the whole teams of what horror means.

774
00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:24.079
And then you have all these kind of genre bending

775
00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:27.079
films and and creators like M Knight, who kind of

776
00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:31.400
you know, towes so many lines between so many genres

777
00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:35.159
that in many ways it's become you know, of course

778
00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:38.159
there's horror horror, but in many ways it's there's a

779
00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:40.079
blurb between many of those.

780
00:45:39.880 --> 00:45:40.440
Things, you know.

781
00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:44.880
Yeah, for sure, for sure. And I think that's probably why.

782
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:48.320
I mean, like straight horror is probably not something I'm

783
00:45:48.599 --> 00:45:51.480
like immediately drawn to, but like you're saying, the sort

784
00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:55.960
of genre bending stuff, I think it's really cool and like,

785
00:45:56.960 --> 00:46:00.440
you know, it's that's where I like slain logo comes in,

786
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:05.440
you know, doing some really interesting stuff that I don't

787
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:08.599
think has been really quite done before.

788
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:13.239
So yeah, yeah, I could see you in Like have

789
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:15.239
you have you seen the others with Nicole Kidman?

790
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:16.960
No? I haven't.

791
00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:18.920
Oh you got to watch it. Like who would think

792
00:46:19.079 --> 00:46:21.599
Nicole Kidman of all people is like in a horror

793
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:26.079
movie and it is a horror movie, but it's Nicole Kidman.

794
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:28.599
But it's kind of like that genre bending you know,

795
00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:32.119
but it's so cool and her performance is so elevated

796
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:34.800
and it just I feel like brings the genre up

797
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:35.639
for everybody.

798
00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:35.920
You know.

799
00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:38.800
Oh, I'm such a big Nicole Kidman fan.

800
00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:40.440
Yeah, you got to check it out.

801
00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:41.079
Oh.

802
00:46:41.159 --> 00:46:44.000
I think she's so cool and she does like I

803
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:47.440
don't know, I just think she does. She's not She's

804
00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:53.159
open to everything and anything and takes risks, and that

805
00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:56.800
doesn't surprise me that she's done a full blown horror film.

806
00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:57.199
Yeah.

807
00:46:57.679 --> 00:47:01.039
Yeah, Well, and for you for this film, you know,

808
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:04.639
I had I lost my mom three years ago to cancer.

809
00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:07.480
This film is in many ways. I was talking to

810
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:11.480
the filmmakers and Logan was saying he had lost his

811
00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:15.159
mom in the journey with this project. So much of

812
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:19.079
this film for me as a viewer, is about grief

813
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:22.320
and what we do with that grief and that journey

814
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:25.440
and how you know, my grief journey of losing my

815
00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:29.519
mom is different than Logan's with his mom and different,

816
00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:34.239
you know, it's also individualistic. What do you think the

817
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:36.440
essence of codder Lake is.

818
00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:44.239
Yeah, I totally understand what you're saying about the grief journey.

819
00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:48.760
Everybody has their own journey that and it looks different

820
00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:57.800
for everyone. And I think for Ellie, she's you know,

821
00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:01.800
she's had to grieve, you know, her dad not being

822
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:06.960
in her life from a very young age, and that's

823
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:14.039
something that she has to confront again and again, and yeah,

824
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:17.159
and also she has as a result of that, she

825
00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:22.880
has such a fraught relationship with her mother and they

826
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:25.320
have hurt each other in a lot of ways. And

827
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:28.039
I you know, and I think that's also a huge

828
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:31.840
part of grief, is that in you know, when you

829
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:37.519
lose someone people, it's very easy to you know, like

830
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:41.679
carry that that the weight to that loss, and use

831
00:48:41.760 --> 00:48:47.000
that as ammunition to hurt other people. I think that

832
00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:53.159
this this film is you know, trying to explore the

833
00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:56.760
life that your parents had before you were born, and

834
00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:01.079
you know, the people that they were before you existed.

835
00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:06.920
And I think also it's a film about forgiveness too.

836
00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:14.800
And yeah, I just think probably what people I hope

837
00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:19.480
people take away from the film is like, yeah, finding

838
00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:24.679
finding a place in their hearts to forgive. And I

839
00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:30.079
think it's obviously very hard to especially family can be

840
00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:35.920
so complicated that Yeah, I think it's like the ending

841
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:40.119
is quite hopeful and it's like the beginning of a

842
00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:48.719
journey of like forgiveness in within Ellie's family. So yeah,

843
00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:54.400
it's quite a grounded, you know, like theme to take

844
00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:55.440
away from the film.

845
00:49:56.159 --> 00:49:56.760
I love that.

846
00:49:57.360 --> 00:50:00.760
Thank you so much for speaking with me. I cannot

847
00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:04.760
wait for everybody to see Kato Lake exclusively on Max.

848
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:09.199
Eliza, thank you, thank you so much, of course you too,

849
00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:14.400
Eliza Scanln. What she does in Kado Lake is incredible.

850
00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:19.119
I mean, she's an incredible actress anyway, but I really really,

851
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:23.119
you gotta watch.

852
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:26.079
It, and you gotta watch her performance. She's just so good.

853
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:29.440
All Right, last, but not least, for the show, I

854
00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:34.440
am once again the incredible Dylan O'Brien returns. He was

855
00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:36.760
last on the show in twenty twenty.

856
00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:40.760
Two to talk about the Hulu film Not Okay that

857
00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:44.440
he started, but in case you needed a reminder, he

858
00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:49.159
kind of broke through with Style Stelenski in the MTV

859
00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:53.119
series teen Wolf, and of course he was the lead

860
00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:56.199
in the Maze Runner trilogy. It was Bumblebee in the

861
00:50:56.239 --> 00:51:02.159
Transformers film Bumblebee. And he's done an incredible amount of

862
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:06.239
work everywhere else, from playing in pony Boy, he plays

863
00:51:06.280 --> 00:51:09.400
dan Aykroyd right now and Saturday Night, and he's won

864
00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:12.440
so many awards, So let's just bring him back right.

865
00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:14.920
Now, Dylan O'Brien.

866
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:18.320
So, first of all, Dylan, welcome back to iHeartRadio's pop

867
00:51:18.360 --> 00:51:21.280
culture weekly. I appreciate you hanging out with me.

868
00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:24.760
Oh yeah, here before.

869
00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:28.119
You have It's all good.

870
00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:32.079
It was yeah, it was last year for for a

871
00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:38.119
film you did and uh what uh it was? Oh

872
00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:41.519
my god, you had blonde hair. I'm totally drawing a blank.

873
00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:45.280
Oh shit, Okay, ago a couple of years ago.

874
00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:46.000
Was it that long?

875
00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:46.480
It's not?

876
00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:49.000
Okay, not okay, thank you.

877
00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:53.440
There you go, and now you're back for this. So

878
00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:56.920
I appreciate you. Uh, I appreciate your time. But so

879
00:51:57.400 --> 00:51:59.679
first of all, congratulations on the project.

880
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:00.119
It is.

881
00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:05.360
You know, it's really great. You know, it's a genre

882
00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:10.920
bending film that I'm in love with it. I wondered

883
00:52:11.320 --> 00:52:13.159
what drew you to it?

884
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:19.360
So many things. First of all, thanks, really appreciate it.

885
00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:24.639
I guess I'll start with Celine and Logan, the filmmakers

886
00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:25.400
they were.

887
00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:30.719
They had sort of this eclectic array of these really.

888
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:35.800
Dynamic short films that I was kind of sent a

889
00:52:35.840 --> 00:52:37.719
few years ago, four or four years ago now, I

890
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:41.360
think it was twenty twenty, and I just thought that

891
00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:44.920
they were so gifted and I wanted to meet with them.

892
00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:47.199
So we kind of just like zoomed generally, and I

893
00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:52.639
really like dug their vibe and their passion and their sensibility.

894
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:58.519
And a year later, maybe even less like eight or

895
00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:01.320
nine months later, they like sent me this project. Usually,

896
00:53:01.320 --> 00:53:03.199
like you take those general meetings and then it's even

897
00:53:03.239 --> 00:53:06.280
if you like vibe with someone, it's like so rare

898
00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:08.159
that something comes of it. They like followed up and

899
00:53:08.199 --> 00:53:10.400
like sent me this script. And the first thing that

900
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:11.519
I opened was sort.

901
00:53:11.360 --> 00:53:11.800
Of a.

902
00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:16.880
Some footage that they had gone down to Cato Lake

903
00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:20.079
and shot with their TP and it so the first

904
00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:23.280
thing that I opened up was this stunning shot of

905
00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:25.199
this lake that I'd never seen before, and I was like,

906
00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:30.239
what the fuck is this place? And the sounds were

907
00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:34.639
so I just was immediately sort of like wow, what

908
00:53:34.719 --> 00:53:39.519
a cinematic element, you know, to set something in. And

909
00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:41.440
then I dove into the scripts from there and I

910
00:53:41.599 --> 00:53:46.639
just really I was really drawn in by the grounded

911
00:53:48.840 --> 00:53:51.920
nature to the characters and the way that they were written,

912
00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:53.599
in the way that the world was built. And it

913
00:53:53.639 --> 00:53:59.599
was sort of this family drama dripping with like a

914
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:03.280
little cot of mystery and sort of like spins into

915
00:54:03.320 --> 00:54:09.119
this heightened you know, sort of like uses a divisive

916
00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:13.239
kind of like you know, supernatural element to kind.

917
00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:15.559
Of round out that story.

918
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:21.199
The family drama ultimately about really about loss, love and family,

919
00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:23.599
and you know, I thought that was just fantastic.

920
00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:28.840
Yeah, I was talking to the filmmakers yesterday and they

921
00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:31.360
said that this all started from a photo they saw

922
00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:36.119
on Reddit, which I think is incredible and then spun

923
00:54:36.280 --> 00:54:36.840
into this.

924
00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:40.559
And speaking with Logan, he had lost his mom and

925
00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:42.039
I had lost my mom.

926
00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:46.519
So we were, you know, talking about that and how

927
00:54:47.039 --> 00:54:51.599
it turned into this piece for him on his end,

928
00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:56.280
that that was about this profound grief that you know,

929
00:54:56.320 --> 00:54:59.559
they were able to make, like turn this into something

930
00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:03.679
that he was able to channel his grief through as

931
00:55:03.719 --> 00:55:04.440
as you know.

932
00:55:04.599 --> 00:55:09.199
As the project happened. I do find it super.

933
00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:12.079
Interesting the and I'm trying to be as spoiler free

934
00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:16.639
as possible the back and forth if you obviously you

935
00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:19.400
know what I mean. But but how how was that

936
00:55:19.599 --> 00:55:22.719
for you as an actor to be able to kind

937
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:26.840
of know that these story wise, these two things are

938
00:55:26.880 --> 00:55:30.119
going on. Is is it hard for you to kind

939
00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:34.559
of keep those How do I say it? Is it

940
00:55:34.599 --> 00:55:36.559
hard for you to kind of organize those in your

941
00:55:36.559 --> 00:55:39.679
mind as an actor? Or does it kind of muddy

942
00:55:39.719 --> 00:55:40.760
the waters a bit?

943
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:46.000
You know what it's And I'm gonna be careful too.

944
00:55:46.519 --> 00:55:52.159
That's really hard. Uh, it's it's it's one of those

945
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:56.239
things you just at the beginning of the movie, I

946
00:55:56.320 --> 00:55:58.880
was like, you know what, I need to put this

947
00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:03.039
out of my head and trust Selene and Logan. That's

948
00:56:03.079 --> 00:56:06.760
at the end of the day, like they're tracking everything.

949
00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:12.480
I think if I if I try to sort of

950
00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:19.400
be overly conscious about how these sort of intertwining like

951
00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:24.679
narratives link, I think it would strip away a lot

952
00:56:24.719 --> 00:56:29.639
of the grounded and like naturalistic nature that the film really.

953
00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:34.000
Runs on. At the end of the day. It's fueled

954
00:56:34.079 --> 00:56:35.800
by this.

955
00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:42.719
Authentic sort of sense of realism and the spirit of

956
00:56:42.760 --> 00:56:47.960
this community and this environment. And I think I just

957
00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:50.920
needed to sort of like as my character would, right,

958
00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:54.599
we're real people in these you know what become very

959
00:56:54.639 --> 00:57:00.960
extraordinary circumstances. And I believe that just sort of staying

960
00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:07.239
grounded and honest in that was like the recipe that

961
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:12.599
the the ingredients, the ingredients that the recipe required, like

962
00:57:12.679 --> 00:57:14.760
for the film, I cass and sort of just trusting

963
00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:19.400
Selena and Logan's sensibility to handle the rest and and

964
00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:23.920
to make sure that the that the narratives were were

965
00:57:23.960 --> 00:57:27.800
cohesive and sinking and and yeah, I.

966
00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:30.119
Guess that's the thought on that.

967
00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:31.079
Okay, I love that.

968
00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:34.719
And finally I'm a huge film buff obviously, and I

969
00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:38.360
love M Night is one of my favorites. He was

970
00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:41.199
a producer on on the film. What was that like

971
00:57:41.320 --> 00:57:44.800
for you? You know, you're a film buff yourself, what

972
00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:47.519
was that like for you? You know, to be involved

973
00:57:47.719 --> 00:57:49.920
with like, you know, I just feel like everything he

974
00:57:50.000 --> 00:57:53.920
touches is for me, like so like amazing, you know.

975
00:57:54.920 --> 00:57:55.679
How was that for you?

976
00:57:56.920 --> 00:58:00.239
Well? He was what a what a great chance in

977
00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:04.519
to have come in and support these filmmakers, you know,

978
00:58:04.639 --> 00:58:08.679
So I just think he's somebody who I agree with you.

979
00:58:08.719 --> 00:58:10.559
I see everything MNET does.

980
00:58:12.679 --> 00:58:12.920
You know.

981
00:58:13.159 --> 00:58:18.840
I love that he self finances and you know, really

982
00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:23.639
believes in, you know, autonomy for a filmmaker. And so

983
00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:30.000
when we were sort of attached to this script and

984
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:35.360
sort of about to take it out to financiers, because

985
00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:37.159
that's kind of how it came together, you know, Selene

986
00:58:37.159 --> 00:58:39.719
and Logan got hired to do a couple of episodes

987
00:58:40.280 --> 00:58:44.599
on his show, and he just fell in love with

988
00:58:44.639 --> 00:58:49.840
them because they're so infectious and talented and you know, passionate,

989
00:58:51.239 --> 00:58:54.880
and he just begged to know like what was next

990
00:58:54.880 --> 00:58:56.480
for them, if they had anything in the pipeline, if

991
00:58:56.480 --> 00:58:59.679
they'd written anything, and they they gave him this, and

992
00:58:59.719 --> 00:59:01.559
he was like, I want to finance this. I want

993
00:59:01.559 --> 00:59:03.440
to help you guys make this, you know. So it

994
00:59:03.519 --> 00:59:07.880
was sort of like incredible news. We were like just

995
00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:10.280
about to take the movie out as like an independent

996
00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:15.119
feature with Eliza and I attached, and we immediately got

997
00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:18.079
financing from m Night. It was going to be and

998
00:59:18.119 --> 00:59:21.760
it was I'm pretty certain of the first project that

999
00:59:21.800 --> 00:59:25.320
he financed outside of one of his own directorial efforts.

1000
00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:31.159
And just what a gift to have that type of producer,

1001
00:59:31.599 --> 00:59:34.519
you know, in the kitchen, right because I think the

1002
00:59:34.599 --> 00:59:39.159
main concern would be, particularly with these like talented filmmakers,

1003
00:59:39.159 --> 00:59:41.519
would be like, Okay, well, hopefully we don't end up

1004
00:59:41.559 --> 00:59:45.360
somewhere where they're being really micromanaged.

1005
00:59:44.679 --> 00:59:46.760
You know, or like we're not you know.

1006
00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:50.519
Being allowed to take the swing ultimately that we creatively

1007
00:59:50.559 --> 00:59:51.000
want to be.

1008
00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:51.840
Taking, you know.

1009
00:59:52.760 --> 00:59:55.320
So it was really great to have such a seasoned

1010
00:59:56.800 --> 01:00:00.280
filmmaker in his own right come on as a producer, sir,

1011
01:00:00.599 --> 01:00:06.599
and be there to support these young and gifted filmmakers,

1012
01:00:08.199 --> 01:00:10.760
you know, and and let with you know, sometimes the

1013
01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:14.519
best support is is space, you know, sort of like

1014
01:00:15.559 --> 01:00:18.360
allowing them to you know, flourish and then setting the

1015
01:00:18.440 --> 01:00:21.159
environment for them and giving them the resources they need

1016
01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:23.480
and then like go, you know, do what you guys

1017
01:00:23.519 --> 01:00:24.880
do and and you.

1018
01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:27.039
Know, get out there, evolve, learn, you know what I mean.

1019
01:00:27.079 --> 01:00:29.840
It's going to be the the biggest feature that they've

1020
01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:34.199
done yet. And but they're they're so fantastic and and

1021
01:00:34.559 --> 01:00:37.960
you know, they grew a lot throughout the shoot, you know,

1022
01:00:38.079 --> 01:00:40.559
like we all do every time out, you know, And yeah,

1023
01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:41.039
it was great.

1024
01:00:41.079 --> 01:00:43.599
Happy to m night as as our champion for that.

1025
01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:44.639
I love that.

1026
01:00:44.719 --> 01:00:47.000
Dylan, thank you so much for speaking with me. I

1027
01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:50.039
can't wait for everybody to see it, Uh so I

1028
01:00:50.039 --> 01:00:51.440
can talk about it first of all.

1029
01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:55.039
Yeah, yeah, for sure, I really we really care a

1030
01:00:55.119 --> 01:00:55.840
lot about this one.

1031
01:00:55.920 --> 01:00:59.960
So yeah, I really appreciate your questions and your passion

1032
01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:02.400
for it. And yeah, spread the word. I hope, you know,

1033
01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:04.760
people check it out. I hope it catches a little.

1034
01:01:04.599 --> 01:01:07.199
Bit of fire, you know, absolutely, brother, thank you man,

1035
01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:08.719
I really appreciate it.

1036
01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:09.519
Jeers, thank you.

1037
01:01:09.599 --> 01:01:10.239
Have a great day.

1038
01:01:10.639 --> 01:01:15.719
Dylan O'Brien, thanks of course to Dylan and everybody else

1039
01:01:15.840 --> 01:01:20.079
who came and talked to me. Kato Lake is out

1040
01:01:20.280 --> 01:01:22.079
right now on Max.

1041
01:01:22.159 --> 01:01:26.880
I highly recommend the film, and Teacup is out right

1042
01:01:26.920 --> 01:01:31.039
now on Peacock. I highly recommend that series. Let me

1043
01:01:31.119 --> 01:01:33.199
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1044
01:01:33.239 --> 01:01:36.840
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01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:49.039
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1049
01:01:49.039 --> 01:01:52.880
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1050
01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:53.320
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1051
01:01:53.800 --> 01:01:57.079
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