Cate Blanchett, Naomie Harris, Tom Burke (Black Bag); Rosamund Pike & Cast of The Wheel of Time

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In this episode of pop Culture Weekly, I interview the

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cast of a Wheel of Time from Prime Videos season

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three of the show, plus two time Academy Award winner

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Kate Blanchett and Naomi Harris and Tom Burke discuss their

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new film Black Bag.

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Let's go.

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Welcome to pop Culture Weekly with Kyle McMahon from iHeartRadio

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your pop culture news, views, reviews, and celebrity interviews on

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all the movies, TV music, and pomp culture you crave weekly.

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Here's Kyle McMahon.

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Nick ne Nick, Hello, and welcome to pop Culture Weekly

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with Kyle McMahon. I of course I am Kyle McMahon.

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I am so thankful that you are here for another

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episode of pop Culture Weekly.

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This is a great episode.

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No co host on our rotating panel of co host

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today because it's all interviews.

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We have a lot of interviews.

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Today, the first set revolving around season three of Prime

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Videos Wheel of Time, which is such a great series

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such so uh, it's really great for fantasy fans drama.

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I'm really enjoying it and season three is an awesome

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addition to you know, the story and the series. So

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we also have the cast of Black Bag, the new

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Steven Soderberg movie, which is really good. I don't know

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if you saw my review, but you can go to

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popculturewekly dot com and check it out.

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I love this movie. It is so good.

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So I speak with Kate Blanchett, the two time Academy

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Award winning Kate Blanchett, as well as Tom Burke and

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Naomi Harris all about that. So we're gonna jump right

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into it with all of these interviews.

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First up, The Wheel of Time.

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So The Wheel of Time, which season three just premiered

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on Prime Video. It is a very high fantasy series

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based on the beloved book series by Robert Jordan, and

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it's set in this sprawling world where magic exists, but

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it's only wielded by certain women, which is a cool twist.

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The story follows Morain Damadrid, who's played by Rosamond Pike,

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who I freaking love, and she embarks on this quest

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to find the Dragon Reborn, which is a prophesied figure

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who will either save the world or destroy the world.

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So the series is packed with political intrigue, all these

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really cool epic battles, and very deep character arcs, and

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it's got a really diversed cat diversed, diverse cast, including

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Ronda Althor who's played by Joseph Strodowski, who I love

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and we'll be speaking with him soon, and so much more,

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and they all are navigating their fates in this world

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that is basically on the brink of war. Will of

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Time was developed by the showrunner, Rafa Jenkins, who I

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also speak with. And you know, the critics have loved

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the series. It's been praised for its stunning visuals, its

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immersive world building, and really strong acting performances. So season

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one was kind of the introduction to the world and

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all of its characters, and season two expanded on that

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lore and really brought up the stakes. And now with

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season three adapting loosely, you know, based on the Shadow

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Rising book, fans can expect even more deep storytelling, bigger battles,

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and an exploration of the series' most beloved themes, which

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are basically destiny, power, and the balance between light and shadow,

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you know, good and evil. So it's an epic ride

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for longtime fans of the books and fans of the series.

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It's really really Season three is just awesome. So let's

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start off with the interviews with the Wheel of Time.

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Season three cast. First up, let's speak with Rafa Judkins,

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the show runner, and actor Natasha O'Keeffe. So, Natasha takes

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on the enigmatic and pivotal role of Landfier, who is

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one of like the most complex villains in the books

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in the series, and alongside her we have the show

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runner himself, as I've been saying, Rafa Judkins. So they

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you're going to give us exclusive insight into the making

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of season three, the adaptation process, and what's to come.

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So let's jump right in with Natasha O'Keefe and Rafa Judkins. So,

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first of all, congratulations on the success of the series

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and season three kind of takes everything up a notch

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and you know, dives deeper and bigger.

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And I wonder what that you know, in this kind

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of pre release moment, what that excitement feels like for you.

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I Mean, it's always crazy before the series comes up

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because we I've put so much into it over so

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much time that it's there's this moment when like the

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rest of the world's about to see it that feels,

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you know, it feels like the culmination of more than

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on other series I've worked on, where you make it

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pretty quickly to when it airs. You know, we were

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in the writer's room on this season in twenty twenty,

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the amount of time it takes for a show like

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this to get to air, you have it's a really

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exciting feeling more than anything else. That's kind of like

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letting everyone else into our little secret. Yeah fly yeah.

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And we're for you know, both of you, how much

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did you it's for me? It's it's interesting as a

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viewer and a fan that it's got to be. There's

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got to I feel like there's or I don't want

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to put this into your minds if it isn't. So

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now I'm like nervous to say, but is there is

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there any heaviness or responsibility you feel to having a

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work that's so celebrated that you're you know, translating into

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a different form.

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I mean I always feel that because I really love

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the book series. So you know, you feel kind of

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the joy and weight of responsibility at all times of like,

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you know, it's so incredible that we get to do

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this and have this rich world that we can dive

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into and bring to life, But you also have a

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responsibility to do the very best job you can with it.

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of those things all the time. And every person on

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the show has a different interaction with the world of

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the books and the world of the show and how

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they they view it. But you know, we really do

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feel a responsibility to do something great with it.

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God absolutely, Yeah. I mean if I thought too much

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about it, I also might be feeling a little bit stunted.

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So there's this kind of like fine line that I

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personally walk as the actor that I I must go

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with instinct and from what is given to me these

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marvelous scripts and the sets and everything in the costume,

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all the gifts that I'm given as an actor. And yeah,

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but it is a responsibility I do understand. But if

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I think too hard about it.

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Yeah, you can't let it squash things. Yeah, across all departments,

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we all feel that way of like you know, you

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can feel sometimes where it's if it starts to squash

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on what you need on a TV shows, You need

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everyone to feel like they're able to put their most

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into it, and the shows that it's best when everyone's

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bringing themselves to their part two. Like now, the character

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of Landford yes, she existed in the books, but now

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in the show she is Natasha, you know, like pieces

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of Natasha are in the character. We write the character

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differently because of you. Like that is how TV should work,

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and so it's at its best when it does work

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that way, and you see the people who make it

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in the show too.

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I love Oh, I'm so sorry. I love that.

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Essence of the essence of the actors.

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Oh yeah, sprinkling, Yeah, they fold into the characters.

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I love that. It's so interesting to hear both of you,

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you know, obviously in two different roles, if you will,

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but for the same series. So I love hearing that contrast.

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Thank you both so much. I can't wait for everybody

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to see season three of The Wheel of Time exclusively

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on Prime video. Thank you, thank you, Thanks so much.

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Natasha o'keefan right for Judgkins.

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Love the insight into the series and where it's going

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in season three and how it got here.

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To season three. Will of Time is just so great,

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all right?

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Next up, Daniel Henny and Sophie Okendo. Daniel is the

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ever stoic and deadly warder named lan Mandra Goren and

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Sophie Oknito is the commanding and wise Swan Sanche. So

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their characters share a complicated relationship with Morain, so you

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can guess that season three is sure to bring some

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new challenges and.

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Maybe even some shifting allegiances. Here they are, Daniel Henny

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and Sophio Condo.

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First of all, thank you both for speaking with me.

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I really appreciate it. How are you doing, Kyle, I'm well,

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thank you. Congratulations on this series in general. But season

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three really, you know, is kicking it up even more.

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What is it like for both of you to be

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on such a you know.

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Giant series, I mean big and kind of every way epic.

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started in twenty nineteen. It's our sixth calendar year now

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on the show, and we've gone from having basically seven

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to eight actors to almost three hundred. The show shoots

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in multiple units, so I mean we were shooting in

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South Africa simultaneously shooting in the Czech Republic. It's really

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incredible to be a part of something so big, and

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not to mention the amazing sets and the amazing talent.

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dream come true?

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And how about for you?

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know how big it was because I when I started,

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I was coming in and out. I also don't do

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any social media or anything, so I'm not really keeping.

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I didn't really look on the internet rep so I'm

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not really keeping. I didn't have that influence. And then

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when I came back and then there's a lockdown, there's

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things that everything was very separate. And then I came

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back for this season, I was like, this is massive.

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about it a lot and people ask about it, so yeah,

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it's really it's and I hadn't realized how big it

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had become. And then this year I was just like,

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this is fantastic. I mean just going wandering through the

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huge like where they were based in Prague, and going

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through the studios and just see each room with a

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different character costume that sets people doing things in different parts,

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and it was like a kind of whole world and

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this was just one location just for so yeah, I

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didn't go to South.

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Africa, So yeah, amazing.

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And for you, had you read the novels before or

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any of the novels, either before you had been cast

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or when you had been cast.

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I didn't read them before, and I haven't read them now.

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Okay, I had not read them before. I'm still reading now,

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but I've read quite a bit now. I was a

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fantasy fan, but I hadn't heard of the Wheel of

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Time growing up in Michigan and know why. But as

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soon as I was cast, I jumped in and it

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helped a lot.

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I was just I can just outgrow through the scripts

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and understand it. And I've got Raith there and everyone

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explaining everything, and then I understand the nuggets of the character.

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But I was like, I'm going to get lost till

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It can be a slippery slope.

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But because people have like posted stuff like, I got

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some people explaining the world to me.

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So that was like some of the fans. Yeah, quite helpful. Actually,

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I find it interesting. I'm sorry, yeah, now he's Oh,

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I find it interesting the contrast between the two of

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you in that regard. Uh, you know, just two actors

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that have chosen kind of different ways. I wonder, you know,

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is is that how you typically are in your careers.

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kind of have a bible, if you will, in some

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ways from having the novel, so you can kind of

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see where in this version your character is going where

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you know. On the other hand, you can also just

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be like, you know what, No, I want to do

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this character my way in this story.

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I think that I've done quite a few things from novels,

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and I found for me personally, it's just been helpful

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to you. The script is my bible of the character

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because I get I get.

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To this is the way my brain works. I can't.

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I can concentrate on one thing at a time so

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that and I can understand it drives the character. And

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then often i'm cast maybe against how the original author

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thought of them. So I don't I don't want to

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bog myself down with that. I just want to have

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the essence of what's in the script.

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But that's what I go for.

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That's just my own personal choice.

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I kind of drop all that away and just I

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fun want to get there. I love that. Thank you

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both so much. I did I cut you off? Oh okay, Oh,

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thank you both so much. I really appreciate it. I

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can't wait for everybody to see Wheel of Time season

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three exclusively on Brian Video. Thank You, Thank You.

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Daniel Henny and Sophia Conido love speaking with them about

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the Wheel of Time. Up next, Kira Coveney and Aula Smart.

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So Kira who brings Elaine Track into life, and Aulas Smart,

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who was set to make her mark as the book

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fan favorite Avienda. These two fierce women are central to

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RAN's journey, and their own destinies are pretty epic themselves.

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Let's jump right into talking about these iconic roles, training

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and all of that.

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Here they are, Kira Coveney and Aula Smart. So tell me.

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I got to start with, had you read the books

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or any of the books at all before you took

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on the rules?

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I hadn't read the books before taking on the rules.

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But I have two older sisters and both of them

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am are longtime fans of the book, so I grew

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up with them reading them over and over again at

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my house as I was growing up, so they were

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very much part of my life. I hadn't actually got

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them until I was cast, and now I phrase like five, Yeah.

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I hadn't read them myself, and it was so interesting

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having been cast and then speaking to people in my

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life and realizing how many people had read the books

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and what an important part of their life the texts were.

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But yeah, I once I was cast to dived straight

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Of the world.

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But yeah, and did you find that as you're you know,

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once you took the role, did you find that you

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had you know, I feel like when there's a pre

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existing you know, content that this is based on, do

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you get kind of like fangirlish as you're seeing who's

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going to be your character, you know, play out throughout

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a text that that's already there and a character that's

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already like flashed out and you you don't have that

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work to do it. It's more just finding how how

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they exist within you or how you can bring them

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to life. But yeah, it's amazing and the way that

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they're written and the strengths and flaws that they have.

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them on the page and think about how that how

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that will kind of look.

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Yeah, and how about for you?

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It's always so exciting when you get to I think

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with the books, because you know the information is there

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if you want it, and so to know the like

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the arc of a character or like the kind of

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general ark of a character, there's such a gift beforehand.

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But then also to see where that gets cut in

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with the writers and this version of the story and.

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Kind of.

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Every episode or when you first get to read them,

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that's like what you you don't know exactly, even though

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you have the books, you still don't know what it

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is exactly that's in store for you. I think over

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the season, which is really exciting. But then when you do,

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you immediately have this huge amount of source material to

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reference and kind of play with and add with and

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give you an understanding. I think where the where the

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writers and the source material recross over it. There's you know,

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there's times where it is exactly like it is in

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the books, and you can kind of go back and

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then there's like a whole chapter you can read and

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you have for free all of these thoughts on ideas

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and like circumstances. And then sometimes it's you know, an

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amalgamation of other things, or it's like you know, this

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kind of or like new new stuff, and it's like

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a really yeah, beautiful kind of navigation of both.

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Yeah, yeah, I love that and actually that's my time.

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Thank you both so much. I really appree.

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She ate it, and so please take one more question. Apologies,

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Oh no, no, thank you, take one more question.

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Thank you. So, finally, what are you most looking forward

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to for you know, I gotta I got to watch

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a couple of the first episodes of season three. What

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are you looking forward to people seeing themselves in season three?

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I think I'm really excited for the audience to see

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the new worlds that we explore. I think they're really exciting.

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They're really different and not like anything we've seen on

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the show before. So yeah, I'm really excited to show

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everyone where they went.

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Yeah, So I think there's so much exciting and new

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stuff coming from all of the characters this season. I

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think it's I think it's a great, great, great season.

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I'm just excited for everyone to see you at Chris.

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Yes, me too. Thank you both for speaking with me

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the Wheel of Time season three exclusively on Prime Video.

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Thank you, Thank you.

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Kira Coveny and a Less Smart All right, so we're

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gonna take a quick break, pay the bills, and when

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we come back, I speak with Rosamund Pike and Joseph Stradowski,

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and then later in the show two time Oscar winning

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actress Kate Blanchett, Naomi Harris, and Tom Burke, who discussed

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their film Black.

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Bag be Back in sixty What all right?

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Thank you for supporting our sponsors, which helps me bring

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the show to you every single episode.

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I love you for that. I love them for that.

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Let's dive in to the last of our Wheel of

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Time interviews. The wheel weaves as the wheel wills, and

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now the wheel has woven. Two incredible guests to Pop

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Culture Weekly. Joining us is the luminous Rosamond Pike, who

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brings the powerful and enigmatic Moraine d'amored to life, and

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Josah Stradowski, the rising star who embodies the dragon reborn

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himself rand Al Thor. Love Love Love these two actors.

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Rosamund made her breakthrough film role as Miranda Frost and

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Die Another Day Anyway, and she was also in Pride

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and Prejudice, Wrath of the Titans, Jack Reacher, The World's End,

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and of course, Gone Girl, which earned her a nomination

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for Golden Globe Award, British Academy Film Award, and the

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Academy Award for Best Actress. She won a Primetime Emmy

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for her role in State of the Union, that comedy

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mini series back in twenty nineteen. And Zosha Stradowski all

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the way from the Netherlands, of course, played in Grand

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Turismo as Nicholas Kappa, numerous films and movies over in

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the Netherlands, and now as Ron Althor in The Wheel

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of Time. So let's jump into my interviews with Rosamund

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Pike and Josha Stradowski.

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Thank you both so much for speaking. Thank you very much.

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I appreciate sports well. Thank you. First of all, congratulations

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on the series and season three, which I got to

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catch a few episodes of, and I'm excited now I'm like, okay,

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I want the rest. But what's it been like for

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you both to be on such a big, huge epic series,

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you know, filming in different countries and you know, in

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in world, you know, in the in the series, being

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kind of all over the place as well.

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It's I mean, for me, really really amazing. I'm I'm

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a Dutch. I'm Dutch by the way, and so I

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come from dutch Land, and that scale I've never seen

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anything like it before. I remember twenty nineteen when I

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walked onto the set for the first time, I just

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couldn't believe how many people that were there, Like it

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felt it felt like theater. You know, you do one

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rehouse on there's like three on are four and sometimes

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five hundred people watching you, and you're like, this is

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this is insane? Can we sick? Can we please send

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them away? But then in the essence, it's it's still home.

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It's still like in like back home. It's just there

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is a camera and in this case there might be

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a couple more or during or whatever, but you do

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respond in a way that you think is the essence

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of your character, and you listen to the other person

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and that's still the same.

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I love there.

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It's been an amazing thing to be part of. I mean,

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they're wonderful, wonderful stories, rich and everybody has something interesting

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to do, which always leads to a fulfilling creative experience,

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you know, whether that's the people making the knives or

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the people working on the leather, or the actors who

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all have fantastic characters. And this season, now that we're

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in the world, we broaden out the storylines and amazing

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new characters are coming in. You know that attract really

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high caliber actors because the parts of Juicy interesting, complicated.

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You know, it's great stuff. And you know, we've got

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inspirational costume designer, set designer, home makeup team who are

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just we're all working in harmony. It's become a family

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and we're kind of flying now right now.

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And it's been so long. I mean, you guys, it's

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been what six years now since you started on this.

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Twenty nineteen September, so five years, five.

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Years, and we're you know, we're getting season three now,

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which is exciting from you know, from a viewer standpoint.

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Have have either of you read the books at all

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or any of the books or did you kind of

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go in blind on purpose or tell me about that.

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Both we've both read read most most of it, right.

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Yeah, you've read all of it. Yosha's read all fourteen books.

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I've I've read five of them. I've and I've recorded

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four of them for audiobook, so I'm pretty I know

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them very well. But Yosha knows beyond.

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What I know. And Yosha was that as was that

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like as a fan or was that when you got.

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The role or no, when I got the role.

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so it felt very special. But they had some kind

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of weird name for my character and I looked it

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up and I couldn't rid Harn. They called him as

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I remember still, and I just couldn't find him online.

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So I thought, okay, whatever, and then it felt really important.

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And then and then after a whole day of auditioning

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in London, they called me up and they said, okay,

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the name character is is Rand. And then I looked

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him up on Google and it said like the central

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one of the central figures, the hero of the antagonists

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and do the chosen one. And I was like, all right, yeah,

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that's quite let me start reading. So I immediately started

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reading and it was great, you know so much as

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an actor, that's that's what you wish for, so much

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source material. And I took him. I took it really seriously.

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It's fat as but I was reading it as it

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was real.

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I love that. I can't wait. I wish it was real.

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I could join in that world with you guys. Thank

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you both so much I can't wait for it. Everybody

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to see season three of the Wheel of Time exclusively

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on the Prime Video. Thank you, guys, Thank you.

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Josha Stradowski and Rosamund Pike love love, love these two

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love the Wheel of Time. If you haven't checked it

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out yet, check it out on Prime Video right now.

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It's so great.

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Start with season one obviously, because there's a world building

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and backstory and lore and some amazing battles.

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And when you get to season.

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Three, hit me up because it is really good. Ups

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the stakes, as you've heard in these interviews. So all right,

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that is it for now for the Wheel of Time.

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Next up, we are shifting gears to talk about one

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of the most anticipated thrillers of the year, Black Bag.

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I told you about my review. My written review is.

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Up on podcast dot popculturewekly dot com under reviews or

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popculturewekly dot com whatever, And I loved it.

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I love this movie.

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It is like reminds me of one of those like

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old you know, big fifties Hollywood who done it?

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It's really great.

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It follows Michael Fastbender, whose beloved wife Catherine is suspected

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of betraying the nation. They're both intelligence British intelligence agents,

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so George played by Fastbender, has to face the ultimate test,

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loyalty to his marriage or loyalty to his country. It

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is really, really great, and it's, you know, this gripping

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espionage drama thriller, and it's packed with secrets and betrayals

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and really powerhouse performances. So we're diving deep into it

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with three of the film's incredible stars. We have the

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legendary Kate Blanchett, whose command of the screen is literally unmatched.

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She brings elegance and intensity to every role she does.

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She's one of the most versatile actors of our time.

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She's delivered unforgettable performances and everything from Blue Jasmine, which

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I absolutely love, to Tar Carol to of course, Gladriel

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in The Lord of the Rings, one of my favorite

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film franchises of all time. I'm obsessed with the Lord

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of the Rings. And of course she has won an

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Academy Award. It's an Oscar not just once, but twice,

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which made her the only actor to ever win an

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Academy Award for portraying an Academy Award winning actor. I

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thought that was just a fun fact. She's one of

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only four actresses to win the Academy Award for Best

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Actress after winning Best Supporting Actress. And she's the only

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actress and only one of six total in actors total

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in Oscar history to be nominated twice for playing the

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same role in two different films, once for Elizabeth and

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again for Elizabeth the Golden Age. She's been nominated for

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an Academy Award eight times already. Films have grossed over

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nine point eight billion at the worldwide box office, her

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highest grossing obviously including The Lord of the Rings trilogy

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and The Hobbit Trilogy, but she was also in the

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Curious Case of Benjamin Button I Love that movie, and

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Indiana Jones and The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. I

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love that movie. Thor Ragnarok, I love that movie, Ocean's Eight, Cinderella,

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and on and on and on. She is, you know,

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one of the best of the best, So anyway, I

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speak with Kate Blanchett as well as the always brilliant

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Naomi Harris, whose magnetic performances in films like Moonlight and

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No Time to Die About Movie have made her a

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force to be reckoned with and rounding out our trio today,

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is the immensely talented tom Burke, who continues to captivate51200:29:43.839 --> 00:29:49.240



audiences with his complex and layered characters like in Strike51300:29:49.519 --> 00:29:54.519



and the Souvenir. So buckle up, let's hop right in here.51400:29:54.559 --> 00:29:58.960



They are Naomi Harris, Tom Burke, and Kate Blanchett.51500:30:00.160 --> 00:30:03.599



Thank you all for joining me. I really appreciate it. Hi, Hey,51600:30:03.599 --> 00:30:07.119



con So, first of all, I love the film it is.51700:30:07.400 --> 00:30:09.880



It reminds me of like those old who'd done it,51800:30:10.000 --> 00:30:13.640



and it's so stylish and slick and such just a51900:30:13.680 --> 00:30:17.119



great thriller. So kudos to you all for that. Keat,52000:30:17.240 --> 00:30:20.240



if I may start with you, Etherne, I heard that52100:30:20.720 --> 00:30:24.400



you took the role without having read the entire script.52200:30:24.519 --> 00:30:26.680



Is that accurate? Yeah?52300:30:26.759 --> 00:30:28.759



Well, nameI and I were going to make a different52400:30:28.759 --> 00:30:31.400



film with Stephen actually, and that was it's a really52500:30:31.480 --> 00:30:32.960



quite a complicated one to make.52600:30:33.480 --> 00:30:34.880



And he had a slot.52700:30:35.359 --> 00:30:38.480



Because he's he's worked to work, he back, he back52800:30:38.519 --> 00:30:40.640



works to work. I can't speak English, he works back52900:30:40.680 --> 00:30:43.480



to back. So he then had this script that David53000:30:43.559 --> 00:30:46.559



Kirp had written. It was perfect, and then he said53100:30:46.799 --> 00:30:48.519



are you free? And I said, well I was going53200:30:48.559 --> 00:30:50.400



to work with you, so yeah, absolutely, what do you53300:30:50.440 --> 00:30:52.160



want me to do? Who am I playing? Who's going53400:30:52.200 --> 00:30:54.599



to be in it? And all of those things were53500:30:55.119 --> 00:30:58.599



very deliciously answered, So it was an impossible thing to53600:30:58.640 --> 00:31:00.400



say no to love that.53700:31:00.839 --> 00:31:07.000



And Naomi, your character as a psychiatrist, you know you53800:31:07.359 --> 00:31:11.680



it's an interesting, I think role for an actor. How53900:31:11.680 --> 00:31:15.240



do you kind of dive behind the psychology of playing54000:31:16.200 --> 00:31:19.240



somebody that deals with psychology while you work with.54100:31:19.240 --> 00:31:23.799



A clinical psychologist, which was really really helpful. Although one54200:31:23.839 --> 00:31:25.680



of the first things she said when she you know,54300:31:25.799 --> 00:31:30.440



read my scenes was no therapist would behave like that54400:31:30.680 --> 00:31:33.160



at all. But I actually really loved that.54500:31:33.240 --> 00:31:35.839



It gave me even greater insight into who Zoe my54600:31:35.960 --> 00:31:39.640



character is, because she's somebody who is so unorthodox in54700:31:39.680 --> 00:31:40.400



her methods.54800:31:40.720 --> 00:31:41.799



She knows the rule book.54900:31:41.839 --> 00:31:44.400



She's so intelligent that she knows how she should behave55000:31:44.440 --> 00:31:47.119



and she knows what works. But ultimately she throws all55100:31:47.160 --> 00:31:49.359



of that out of the window because she's like, I'm55200:31:49.400 --> 00:31:51.799



just going to do what's effective. All that matters to55300:31:51.839 --> 00:31:55.480



me is that my spies complete their mission missions and55400:31:55.519 --> 00:31:59.960



maintain their mental health. And so she's and she defined55500:32:00.119 --> 00:32:03.559



her moral compass is defined by her own set of55600:32:03.799 --> 00:32:07.000



weird beliefs And I really like that because then you55700:32:07.039 --> 00:32:09.680



get to create a character on your own terms completely.55800:32:10.519 --> 00:32:15.599



I love that. And Tom, your character is messy, I55900:32:15.599 --> 00:32:19.480



think it is one word to put it in and complicated,56000:32:19.519 --> 00:32:22.880



as as all of the characters are. How do you56100:32:23.119 --> 00:32:27.200



find inspiration when doing something you know? You don't strike56200:32:27.279 --> 00:32:32.039



me as a super messy life type of person. How56300:32:32.079 --> 00:32:37.559



do you find uh that that space to be in to,56400:32:38.000 --> 00:32:41.559



you know, play a role like this. I think.56500:32:43.160 --> 00:32:45.960



Everyone's been in some place like that at some point56600:32:45.960 --> 00:32:50.359



in their life. And yeah, so it's a very Yeah,56700:32:50.400 --> 00:32:51.559



he's very human to me.56800:32:52.240 --> 00:32:57.319



Mm hmm. And do you do you feel that you56900:32:57.319 --> 00:33:00.839



know as you're as you're doing this, are you able57000:33:00.880 --> 00:33:04.400



to I always find it interesting, you know, different types57100:33:04.400 --> 00:33:07.559



of actors in the way they approach things. Some are57200:33:09.200 --> 00:33:11.799



just kind of go all in in their role and57300:33:11.799 --> 00:33:14.319



that kind of consumes their life for that period. Are57400:33:14.319 --> 00:33:19.160



you able to kind of separate the character from you57500:33:19.279 --> 00:33:21.279



at the end of the shooting day?57600:33:21.359 --> 00:33:21.559



Yeah?57700:33:21.599 --> 00:33:26.160



Yeah, but there's a yeah, there's a there's a magical57800:33:26.200 --> 00:33:29.599



lift in anything. But if you're playing somebod who's been57900:33:29.680 --> 00:33:32.720



spiked with a drug that is also an invented drug,58000:33:32.799 --> 00:33:35.200



that you know, is whatever we want it to be.58100:33:36.480 --> 00:33:40.920



And I say to Stephen in the midst of setting58200:33:40.960 --> 00:33:43.359



up for that same by the way, what you know,58300:33:43.400 --> 00:33:45.440



do you think this mights me go loud or quiet58400:33:45.599 --> 00:33:48.160



or hot or cold or you know what?58500:33:48.160 --> 00:33:48.359



What?58600:33:48.359 --> 00:33:51.920



What's what's the kind of flavors of it? He and58700:33:51.960 --> 00:33:56.680



he just said the words pure id. That's you know,58800:33:57.359 --> 00:34:01.480



that's quite a freeing thing to be told, right, just58900:34:01.559 --> 00:34:02.480



go for pure it.59000:34:04.119 --> 00:34:09.039



Yeah. Well, and it comes across grade from all of you. Kate,59100:34:09.280 --> 00:34:12.320



you know, as you were reading the script, and really59200:34:12.320 --> 00:34:16.239



for all of you, it's so as a viewer, I'm59300:34:16.239 --> 00:34:18.239



like at the edge of my seat the entire time,59400:34:18.320 --> 00:34:20.199



what's going to happen next? Who's going to say? What?59500:34:20.199 --> 00:34:23.039



What's going to go on? Do you have that same59600:34:23.119 --> 00:34:26.400



excitement reading the script or do you like read it59700:34:26.440 --> 00:34:30.559



from a place of where my character is going to59800:34:30.599 --> 00:34:31.280



be coming from.59900:34:31.960 --> 00:34:36.519



I think I'm a really good audience and so I60000:34:36.679 --> 00:34:41.559



read a script incredibly quickly at first, because I'm desperate60100:34:41.559 --> 00:34:44.119



to know what happens like an audience is. And that's60200:34:44.480 --> 00:34:46.519



that's how I know in the end what the audience60300:34:46.639 --> 00:34:49.400



experience will be, particularly when you know that it's going60400:34:49.440 --> 00:34:51.440



to be a director like Soderberg. Shooting it, you've got60500:34:51.480 --> 00:34:54.639



a sense of how the narrative will unfold, But then60600:34:54.679 --> 00:34:57.039



I have to go back and then I just do60700:34:57.119 --> 00:35:01.440



that narcissistic dive where I just view it all from60800:35:01.559 --> 00:35:05.239



her perspective. And so, because it's in an ensemble piece60900:35:05.320 --> 00:35:07.280



like this, it's really important to know what your function61000:35:07.480 --> 00:35:11.239



is and so which piece of the story you're responsible61100:35:11.320 --> 00:35:14.960



for conveying when and in when my character, because I mean,61200:35:14.960 --> 00:35:18.400



everyone's a suspect, but I knew she was also a suspect,61300:35:18.719 --> 00:35:22.000



so there had to be sort of an unknoble remove61400:35:22.719 --> 00:35:24.800



to the way. I think I played her, at least61500:35:24.800 --> 00:35:27.039



that's what I did. Maybe another actor would do it differently,61600:35:27.119 --> 00:35:30.119



but yeah, so that that came out of the sort61700:35:30.119 --> 00:35:32.679



of second read. But I loved the first read, like you,61800:35:32.760 --> 00:35:35.519



I wanted to know exactly what you know, how.61900:35:35.320 --> 00:35:38.880



This would end right right? I love it. I can't62000:35:38.920 --> 00:35:41.440



wait for everybody to see a black Bag. Thank you62100:35:41.480 --> 00:35:44.920



all so much, Thank you, Thanks, I have a great.62200:35:44.800 --> 00:35:45.639



Day, It's sure.62300:35:47.280 --> 00:35:54.000



Kate Blancher, Naomi Harrison, Tom Burke love black Bag, Love62400:35:54.440 --> 00:35:55.079



Kate Blanchet.62500:35:55.079 --> 00:35:57.239



I love all three of those actors, but guys, I62600:35:57.400 --> 00:36:01.000



just talked to Kate Blanchett. This is like on my62700:36:01.039 --> 00:36:03.840



bucket list, so I can cross it off. Two time62800:36:03.880 --> 00:36:07.840



Academy Award winning actor Cate Blanchett one of the greatest62900:36:07.880 --> 00:36:11.119



actors of our time. I can't believe it. In any event,63000:36:11.199 --> 00:36:13.280



Black Bag is out right now. I love it.63100:36:13.360 --> 00:36:13.920



Go see it.63200:36:13.960 --> 00:36:19.039



If you want to spy, thriller, ah, you know, espionage, drama,63300:36:19.760 --> 00:36:25.039



anything like that, well acted, intelligent, any adjectives like that.63400:36:25.079 --> 00:36:27.039



Go see Black Bag. It is well worth your time.63500:36:27.079 --> 00:36:28.800



And Steven Soderberg, like, how can you go wrong with63600:36:28.800 --> 00:36:33.000



Steven Soderberg such an awesome you know, director creative?63700:36:33.880 --> 00:36:36.280



All right, that is our show for this week.63800:36:36.400 --> 00:36:38.639



Of course, we have awesome stuff coming up for you63900:36:38.679 --> 00:36:39.639



to continue to.64000:36:40.199 --> 00:36:42.159



Check it out. Check out the YouTube.64100:36:42.159 --> 00:36:44.199



I've been really uploading a lot of stuff up there,64200:36:44.320 --> 00:36:47.400



especially some older interviews that the videos were never up.64300:36:47.639 --> 00:36:50.480



So now we're going through that. I am. I did64400:36:50.519 --> 00:36:54.559



break my kneecap trying to dunk, which sucks.64500:36:54.760 --> 00:36:57.920



So you know, if you don't see me as often64600:36:58.039 --> 00:37:02.159



as usual for the next two months, I can't drive,64700:37:02.360 --> 00:37:05.639



which has been, as you know, like torture for me.64800:37:05.840 --> 00:37:08.960



So that's what's going on, But hang in there with me.64900:37:09.519 --> 00:37:12.519



I'll be posting a lot more to YouTube and the65000:37:12.599 --> 00:37:16.719



blog on pop podcast dot popculturewekly dot com. Those are65100:37:16.760 --> 00:37:19.679



all in the show notes. I will see you next episode.65200:37:19.920 --> 00:37:21.159



All right, I love you.65300:37:21.639 --> 00:37:24.920



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