Bill Moseley & Lin Shaye are Scared to Death; Slanted Cast talk Body Horror & Satire

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In this episode of Pop Culture Weekly, I talk with

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the stars of Slanted, end legendary horror icons, Bill Moseley

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and Lynn Shay.

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Let's go.

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Welcome to pop Culture Weekly with Kyle McMahon from iHeartRadio

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your pop culture news, views, reviews and celebrity interviews on

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all the movies, TV music and pop culture UKRABE Weekly.

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Here's Kyle McMahon.

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Na no no NT.

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Hello, and welcome to pop Culture Weekly with Kyle McMahon.

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I of course am Kyle McMahon, and this is the

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show where we celebrate pop culture, question our life choices,

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and occasionally realize that the people who terrify us on

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screen could actually be some of the nicest humans alive

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off screen. Today's episode is a fun one. We're talking

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about the new film Slanted, which blends sharp storytelling, identity satire,

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and characters who are see enough to.

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Feel very real.

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And we also talk with two legendary horror icons that

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star in the new horror film Scared to Death And honestly,

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it's a pretty honest warning label. So yeah, a little

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thoughtful storytelling, a little horror, and a lot of great conversations.

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Let's jump right into it. Our first guest today star

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in the new film Slanted. Joining me are my Tray,

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Rama Krishnan, who many of you know from Never Have

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I Ever, and Emuali Zilber.

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And if you've seen my Tray's.

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Work before, you already know she has this incredible ability

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to balance humor and emotional honesty in a way that

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feels very real. In Slanted, she and amily help bring

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to life a story that's funny, sharp, horrifying and uncomfortable

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in the best way, and it's very much about figureguring

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out who you are in a world that constantly tries

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to label you. First, the film follows a high school

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senior navigating identity, belonging, and social pressures in a sharp, satirical,

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horror ish story about race and beauty standards and the

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complicated ways we try to reinvent ourselves, which, let's be honest,

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is basically the human condition. So let's jump right into it.

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Here they are my Trey E, Rama Krishtnin, and Amalie Zilder.

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So congrats on Slanted. It really is such a great film,

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so smart, and I wonder if once, when you both

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read the script, is that something that kind of struck

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you at it, you know, is that something that you

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were like, Wow, this is bold and fresh or was

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there something else.

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Definitely bold bold script?

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Yeah, I was nervous. I was nervous reading this. I

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was like, I don't know if this is for me.

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This is pretty controversial, but shout out Amy. She is

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a true filmmaker because she doesn't shy away from controversial

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and she reminded me as an actor that that's the

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whole point. That's why you make movies. Controversial movies start conversation.

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So yeah, but it's definitely bold from top first place

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to last.

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And how about for.

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You, Emily?

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I mean same. When I read the script, I was

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hesitant at first. It's scary and pretty daunting to agree

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to play a white nationalist essentially, but ultimately my greatest

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asset in this film is being able to be so

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forward in my cruelty and that being a driver for

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all of the choices that Joan makes, which ultimately is

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the conversation and that this film starts. So my personal

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feelings aside, I was like, this is a true piece

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of art, and Amy is, like my Terrey said, a

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true filmmaker. And it doesn't matter how I feel about

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this character. If anything, the fact that I'm having such

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a strong emotional reaction means that this film needs to

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be made and it would be my privilege to be

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a part of it.

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I love that.

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I was just talking with Amy and I said the

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same thing, like, great art is going to make some

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people uncomfortable, and that's okay because that means it's doing something.

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And I think what this film does is kind of

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opens many of our eyes, you know, to things I

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know that I wouldn't have experienced otherwise, you know what

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I mean totally.

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Yeah, It's supposed to make you feel uncomfortable, because art

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should make you feel, you know, it doesn't always have

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to be positive, you know. And also uncomfortability challenges growth.

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So I love that. Do you think, and this is

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to both of you, do you think that, you know,

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in a social media world where everyone kind of curates

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their this particular life, do you think we've made it

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harder to just kind of exist as we are today?

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lent itself to all of us being very intentional about

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how we represent ourselves online. We know that in a way,

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I think like our social media presence becomes like some

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sort of dystopian like relate has a dystopian relationship to

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our identities and how we present ourselves, and whether it

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be as small as like wearing a certain outfit to

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a real life dinner so you can get a photo

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in it for your Instagram, or like curating how you

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talk to like if you're an influencer, how you talk

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to people, how you interact with people so that people

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say good things about you, like whether not that's true

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to who you are. So I do think that there's

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a there's a there's a really difficult ability to be

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fully authentic in a world where you are constantly trying

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to manipulate how others perceive you.

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How about for you, Madre.

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I think I totally echo everything ominly said, because it

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is true. There's just so much like living your life

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in service to your gram, you know, to your any

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insert social media platform here. But I also think I

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was having like a bunch of conversations with my pals

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recently about how social media also makes you just crazily accessible,

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you know, whether you're an influencer, a celebrity, or you

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just have it even for your personal reasons. Just we've

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never been more accessible as a society because of our

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smartphones and the Internet, and because of that, we're always

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constantly checking in on who needs us, who's trying to

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contact us at all times that we don't have any time.

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I'm for ourselves and downtime to just sit chill and

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be intentional with who we're trying to hang out with,

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having that intentional hangout with that friend that you want

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to build that meaningful relationship with beyond just oh I

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send them memes every so often and now we're besties.

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It's like, that's a crazy definition of friendship. And yeah,

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just realizing that because we don't have that time anymore,

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we're not critically thinking nearly as much as we should,

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especially nowadays because being told what to think via the Internet,

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via this overwhelming, excessive like access access to ourselves and

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to others at all times around the clock.

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You know, yes, I completely agree. I could talk to

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both of you about this topic and all all of

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the themes in the film all day. But I appreciate

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both of you. I can't wait for everybody to see Slanted.

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Thank you, Thank you, have a great day. Hi Rama

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Krishnan and Amalie zilber My thanks to them, they are

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both fantastic and Slanted, and the film really does manage

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to be funny and thoughtful and scary and really uncomfortable

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enough to make you think, but in a good way.

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And you know that's usually a sign it's doing something right.

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And of course every great film also has a creative

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brain behind it. So joining me now are the people

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who helped bring Slanted to life. Any Wang is the

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film's writer and director, and I also along with her

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have Shirley Chen, who delivers one of the film's standout performances.

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We talk about where the idea for the film came from,

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the themes behind the story, and what they hope that

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audiences take away from it, because, as you know, satire

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can be very tricky, I would say, and you want

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people laughing but also thinking harder about why they're laughing. Right,

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So let's jump right into it. Here they are, Amy

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Wang and Shirley Check. Congrats on the film. It really

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is so smart and kind of eye opening in many ways.

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This question is for both of you as you're you know,

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as you're reading the script once it's finished, which of

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course you wrote it, you know, was there a moment

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where you were like, Wow, this is uncomfortable but necessary.

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You know what I mean. This is going to make

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some people feel.

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A little uncomfortable and that's all right. Was there a

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moment reading the script and was there a moment after

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you wrote the script?

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Yes, I mean I feel like that moment came probably

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even before I started writing the script, just a concept itself.

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I knew it was going to be.

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Challenging and you know, provocative, and that's one of my

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favorite things. Like I love, you know, people like Nathan

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Field of who just pushed boundaries and really you know,

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confront people because I feel like that's how people change, right, And.

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It was a conversation, So that was definitely always in

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the back of my mind.

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But I you know, I've done, as Shirley knows, I've

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done a couple of I want to say, like controversial

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short films, but I like to tackle difficult topics because

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I like to make people feel uncomfortable.

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And so this just felt like, Okay, this feels right.

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This is and then at the core of it's so

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rooted in my personal experience, so it just you know,

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I was protected by that because it was so authentic.

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I think, to my life, Wow, and how about for

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you surely once you read it.

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huge part of what makes us fun is that the

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movie pokes fun at being uncomfortable, whether that's making the

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audience uncomfortable watching something or the fact that John is

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so uncomfortable in her skin. Right, And there's so many

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moments it feel quite honest, Like I would say maybe

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the nail salon scene. I remember reading that and being like,

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oh my gosh, like that just gives me the hebgbs

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of like being in the scenario. And then you know,

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then you get this wonderful experience of watching it come out.

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And I think one of my favorite moments is like

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the trailer opening on like have you ever suffered the

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injustices of being a person of color?

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And then it cuts to me, It just hard cuts to.

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My face, and like it's just awesome. Right, There's so

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much that's like just fun about it. It gets to

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poke fun at these very real and serious topics, and

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it's like, at the end of the day, we can

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also just laugh at how ridiculous it all is.

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in my opinion, you know, kind of as you said, Amy,

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you know, great art for me anyway, kind of opens

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me up to worlds that I may not have known,

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or thinking that I may have known, or thinking that

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I have that I shouldn't be thinking, and something changes

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my mind about it, you know. To me, that's what

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great art does.

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So I wonder for both of you.

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You know, the story tackles identity in a way that

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is smart and is very calculated. And I don't mean

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that in a negative way at all. I mean it's

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very thought out and how it's done. Were you ever nervous,

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you know, to kind of show up in that way, surely?

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I mean I think it's nerve wracking to admit to

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a bunch of people like, hey, maybe I don't like

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myself or I don't like parts of myself or parts

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of my culture.

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Right.

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In a large way, this is a movie that speaks

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to the Asian American community, and like, I think it's

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terrifying to think, oh my gosh, am I telling people

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that look like me that it's not okay to look

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like me? Right, that's like a fear, right, But ultimately

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that's not the message of this movie. It's saying, like

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you learn who you are. By learning who you're not,

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you get to and sometimes you kind of like have

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to learn the hard way, right. We hope that we

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don't have to, But there's something really cathartic and empowering

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about being honest about sometimes you don't always like yourself.

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And it doesn't explicitly have to be story limited to race.

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It could be about sexuality or anything that makes you

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feel different or othered.

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I think it's it's necessary, a.

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Necessary conversation absolutely, and Amy finally, you know, writing it,

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did you feel nervous kind of being so authentic him

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putting so much of yourself, your own identity, your own

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experiences into something that's going to be going out to

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the world, or was it freeing?

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I would say it's.

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A bit of both, you know, like it was definitely scary,

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and even now, like we have a you know, big

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screening coming up tonight at.

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Vidiots, and.

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of you know, people not enjoying the film as much

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as you know I want them to. But at the

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end of the day, you know, I remind myself this

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is I mean, even The Godfather, you know, people hate

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the Godfather.

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People hate the Matrix, you know, not saying.

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but I think everyone is going to take what they

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want from it. What has been really incredible is every

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the response afterwards has been so incredible. And like I've

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had groups of like teenage girls come up to me

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afterwards and they went to you know, see it together,

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like a group of twenty of them, and they'll come

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and say, like, oh my god, you know, that's exactly

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what happened to us, you know, last.

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all sorts of people. It's been really special. But it's

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and that's something I don't think I'll ever stop doing.

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Well. I think it plays a beautif.

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I can't wait for everybody to see it. Thank you

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both for being so authentic, and thank you for speaking

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Thank you.

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Amy Wang and Shirley Chin.

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Go see Slanted.

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It really is smart, funny, thoughtful, scary, and we'll have.

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You thinking long after you've left the theater. I'll tell

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All right, we're gonna take a quick break to pay

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the bills, but in sixty seconds when we come back,

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we're heading further into horror territory as I sit down

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with Bill Mosley, man who was spent decades terrifying audiences

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in some of the most beloved horror films ever made,

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and now he's back with a new movie called Scared

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to Death.

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I'll see you in sixty all right, welcome back to

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Pop Culture Weekly. I'm Kyle McMahon, and if you're a

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horror fan, which you are, the next part of the

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show is going to make you even happier. So my

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next guest is someone whose name is basically synonymous with horror.

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Bill Moseley has delivered some of the most memorable performances

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in genre history, from Texas Chainsaw Massacre two to the

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House of a Thousand Corpses and The Devil's Rejects. He's

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one of those actors who just walks on screen and

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us horror fans like immediately know that we're in for

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something good. And now he's back in a new film

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called Scared to Death. Scared to Death revolves around a

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production assistant who's eager to advance as a director in

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Hollywood and then proposes to his boss played by Lynn Shay,

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that the crew and actors of that horror film should

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experience a real life seance. And then they go to

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this seventy year old abandoned children's shelter for research, and

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you can imagine what happens. It's really really great. So

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we talk about obviously Scared to Death, we talk about

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his incredible career, the joys of working in horror, and

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what audiences can expect here. He is Bill Mosley.

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I see him. Man, you look like you're a bundled

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out for winter.

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I am.

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It's we got a blizzard here over overnight, so I'm

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not happy.

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I'm not a blizzard type of guy.

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Where are you.

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I'm in Delaware, all right, Yeah?

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Yeah, so like.

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Philly, d C. Baltimore kind of in the middle of

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all that.

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So, uh, thanks coming to Pittsburgh on Thursday?

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Oh are you?

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Yeah?

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Oh? Okay for a con?

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Yeah yeah, horror realm con.

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Oh cool, Okay.

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I went to my first con last month called monster.

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Mania, and uh, yeah it was, yes, yeah, it was

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really great, awesome.

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So let me ask you.

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I obviously want to talk about Scared to Death, which

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I love, but I want to go back for a

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moment if we can. You have played some of the

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most memorable characters in horror, somebody from like chop Top

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to Otis, Driftwood to Felix.

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I love.

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What as Have these been conscious choices for you or

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have you kind of just you know, read this gone

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script by script or is there a certain type of

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role you look for.

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It's actually the roles look for me, and I'm very appreciated,

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appreciative of that, you know, with with Texas Chainsaw, with

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chop Top, I had made I was so freaked out

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by the original Texas Chainsaw massacre that I made a

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short film back in like nineteen eighty four, I guess

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called the Texas Chainsaw Manicure and I five minutes shot

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in Staten Island and a beauty parlor, and I played

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the hitchhiker in that. And a friend of mine showed

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that five minutes short to Toby Hooper, who directed, you know,

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the original Chainsaw, and he liked my performance so much

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as the Hitchhiker.

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He hired me as chop Top and.

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That's how I got into the business. And the special

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effects makeup guy in Chainsaw Too is Tom Savini and

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Tom Savini And then got the job of directing the

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remake of Night of the Living Dead and brought me

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along as Johnny you know. So it's just so funny

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how that all works. And then meeting Rob Zombie years later,

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I think it was ninety October of ninety nine, I

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am ced a little horror award show here in La

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at the Universal Studios and I was made up as

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chop Top and with a tuxedo, and I handed a

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horror award to Rob Zombie, who freaked out because he

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was a big chop Top fan. And a month later

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he called me up and offered me the part of

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Otis Thriftwood and House of a Thousand Courses.

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Wow, it's just so funny how it kind of works.

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I mean, I didn't audition for any of those, you know,

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It's just funny how they just kind of reach out

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and and pull you when when the time's right.

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I love that.

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All you got to do is say yes.

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I love that too.

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All you got to do is say yes.

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Is there a role that you've done that you feel

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like people have misunderstood?

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No, not really, Okay.

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You you you know, I think with horror.

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Understood like they didn't get where I was coming from,

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or misunderstood like it should have been they should have

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you know, clapped louder.

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Yes, you know, bo, Yes to both.

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I feel like a lot of times horror doesn't really

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get it to due as a true art form, and

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oftentimes I found some things that may not have landed

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upon their release. Twenty years later, you have people like me,

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you know, meticulously rewatching them and like, oh my god,

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you know, and then it's a buzz online and all

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that kind of thing. I didn't know if there was

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anything like that in your career.

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Yeah, there's a lot of them.

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I've done a lot of work, and a lot of

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it probably falls into that category.

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You know.

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Just last night I was watching for some reason, I

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was watching an old movie I did which I never

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really watched all the way through, called Exit Humanity civil

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war zombie movie, and I play an evil Confederate general. Also,

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I did a movie a couple of years right before

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the start of COVID. I did a movie called Prisoners

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of the ghost.

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Land, Yes, with Nicholas Cage, right.

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Nicholas Cage and played the governor, and that movie got

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it started off getting love because it was a Sun

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Dance selection, but unfortunately it was the year of COVID,

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so all of that was done remotely, so that was

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kind of sad, but you know, it never really took off.

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Good old.

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The director is a Japanese director named Sion Sono, and

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he did some amazing He has done some amazing movies.

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I think especially Cold Fish is my favorite.

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There's a movie called Tag. There's just a bunch.

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Of his stuff, which is which are really really cool movies.

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So Prisoners of the ghost Land, Exit Humanity. Yeah, there's

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there's been a bunch. But I'm just really glad that,

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you know, for the rob Zombie trilogy, Glad for a

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chop top, glad for you know, Repo the Genetic Opera

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where we me and Ogre sing and dance our way

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through a lot of mischief and mayhem.

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That's a great one with Paris Hilton.

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With Paris Hilton.

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Yeah, after decades.

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Of doing this, you know, being in the horror world

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specially has there what was the moment for you that

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was like, you know, you've become one of those people

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that have have become an icon, and especially in this genre.

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Was there a moment that that hit you?

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Not really, No, okay, I mean in other words, I

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don't think of myself that objectively.

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I'm just glad to get the work.

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And I'm glad because there's you know, no two parts

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are the same, No two movies are the same, No

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two experiences are and so it's always you know, it's

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a challenge. You know, every job is a challenge. You know,

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can I memorize those lines? You know, I'm i gonna

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you know, hitting my marks and doing that kind of

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stuff is pretty old hat.

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So I'm comfortable with doing that.

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I'm comfortable on a set like all the different people

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with their wires and their lights and their cameras and

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makeup and you know, touching me with little powder puffs

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all that stuff. If I get I can stay in character.

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But it's always a different experience, and I think that's

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really the most fun of it. Oh, it's not Tedium

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by any stretch, because it's not the same thing.

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Ever, Why do you think that audiences, you know, embrace monsters.

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Well, life is scary. I think that's really what it

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comes down to. And I think you know horror movies,

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you know, or you know Stephen King books, I mean

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horror movies. Basically that's what is it an hour and

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a half, so it's like ninety to one hundred minutes.

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There's usually traditionally the screenplay is, you know, three acts

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beginning middle in an end. You know, you start getting

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scared originally, and then you go through the story and

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that at the very end there's some kind of a climax,

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there's a resolution, and you know that's ninety minutes. Got

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a box of popcorn, you know, if you're in a

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movie theater, which you know most people aren't anymore, but

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you know, it's basically it's very tidy, and you usually,

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you know, for the most part, there's a resolution or like,

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you know, something that keeps you thinking, but it's uh,

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you know, it makes life a little more manageable instead

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of just you know, the the terror of uncertainty. You know,

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it could be a wonderful day. You're out with your

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best friend and all of a sudden, you know, a

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piano falls out of a plane and you know, crushes

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you both. Who knows or you know that that you

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know that you know, visit to the doctor, you get

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a bad report or you know, whatever it is. And

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with a horror movie, at least you know you get

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you know, it's a stylized version of it and something

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that you can control a little bit more.

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Say it's safe.

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Yeah, so.

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Scared to death this. I love this film. It's so fun.

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You know, I'm a hugebviously huge horror fan.

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And and it walks a very you know, fun line

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between kind of comedy and horror.

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Reminds me a lot of Sam Raimie's work.

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And what drew what drew it to you? What drew

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you to it?

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Well, I mean I was available, So that's always wortant.

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It's it was.

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It was sag and fully funded. That's always important. And

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first and foremost I got to say was the fact

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that Lynn Shay was a part of it. And I've

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worked with Lynn on a couple of movies. I've worked

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rather on two thousand and one Maniac's Field of Screams

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and also a movie we did in New Orleans directed

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by Ashley Hamilton called Gothic Harvest. And I've known Lynn

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either through the conventions or just you know, socially for

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many years, and so to have her attached to Scared

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to Death was it.

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Was a big plus was I'm sorry?

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Oh, in addition to you know, really a really good

491
00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:13.160
script and Paul Boyd, who's a fantastic director, So all

492
00:27:13.200 --> 00:27:16.279
of that just and the fact that it was being

493
00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:18.799
shot about, you know, twenty miles.

494
00:27:18.519 --> 00:27:20.599
From where I live. That helped too.

495
00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:23.440
So it's going to be it was like a day job,

496
00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:26.240
you know, as opposed to you know, a location.

497
00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:31.119
Did you You know, as you're reading the script, do

498
00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:35.039
you start kind of putting your own you know, how

499
00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:37.599
does that process work for you as an actor when

500
00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:40.680
you're reading this and you're deciding how to play him?

501
00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:41.400
Do you?

502
00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:44.440
Is it a like a visional visional?

503
00:27:44.599 --> 00:27:46.759
Is it a vision thing for you?

504
00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:49.200
Is it a you write down, you sit down with

505
00:27:49.240 --> 00:27:51.400
a notebook and start you know, how does.

506
00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:53.279
That process come to you?

507
00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:56.319
So you end up seeing what we see on screen?

508
00:27:57.440 --> 00:28:00.160
Well, I mean I do read the script. I sit

509
00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:03.319
in that chair you can see back there it's missing

510
00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:06.039
a cushion, but that is my that's you know, that's

511
00:28:06.039 --> 00:28:09.480
my chair where I meditate, and you know, you just

512
00:28:09.559 --> 00:28:12.400
sit there and read it. You can close your eyes

513
00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:15.599
or keep them open. You just kind of just you know,

514
00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:20.000
follow the story, get into it. And that's really what

515
00:28:20.079 --> 00:28:22.480
I do. I you know, I try to read the

516
00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:26.599
script three or four times and just you know, just

517
00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:30.119
see who the people are, see what the situation is,

518
00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:34.119
you know, see what the action is, the backstory. You know,

519
00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:37.960
just use your imagination and if you keep you know,

520
00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:40.440
if you if you use your imagination, it's like a muscle.

521
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:44.079
And you know, I try to use mine a lot.

522
00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:47.440
It's like a workout. And you know, you just sit

523
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:49.640
there and read that, you know, read it from you know,

524
00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:54.960
page one to page you know one hundred and Yeah,

525
00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:57.480
it starts to come you know, a little by little,

526
00:28:57.799 --> 00:29:02.119
sometimes quickly, sometimes slowly, but eventually kind of just get

527
00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:05.920
the general idea. And you know, it depends if you

528
00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:08.640
like the story. You know, if it's a good story,

529
00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:11.200
that's really what it comes down to. It doesn't have

530
00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:14.200
to be Marvel, you know. With you know, one hundred

531
00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:18.359
billion dollars worth of you know, green screen computer graphics,

532
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:20.880
you know, you can do it for you know, as

533
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:22.200
they say, you can do it for one hundred and

534
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:24.759
fifty bucks and h in one of these you know

535
00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:29.000
what is that that's an iPhone with chop top on them.

536
00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:30.160
That little chop dot dekl.

537
00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:33.720
So somebody wants to say, hey, wait a minute, that's my phone.

538
00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:36.319
I go, oh yeah, well Nick late, you.

539
00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:43.720
Dogged it as you're as you're filming, as you're wrapping. Really,

540
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:48.599
you know, do you look back and do you let

541
00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:52.119
it go until the premiere or you know, are you

542
00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:55.640
the type of actor that's kind of still thinking on

543
00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:57.119
it or are you are you ready to go to

544
00:29:57.160 --> 00:29:57.920
the next project.

545
00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:03.599
Well, you you know, there are certain obligations, professional obligations,

546
00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:07.799
like doing press for it, you know, staying in touch

547
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:13.160
with other castmates, sometimes being supportive. There's always you know,

548
00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:16.039
the production part of it is just the middle, you know,

549
00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:18.960
talk about the three acts, and the most important act

550
00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:22.200
is post production, where you can really just you know,

551
00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:24.440
depending on what scene or what take of a scene

552
00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:27.920
and how you shoot it and how you cut it,

553
00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:30.960
you know, you can really change the movie around, you know, radically.

554
00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:35.240
So there's always that there's a d R so you

555
00:30:35.319 --> 00:30:38.039
have to you know, maybe you know the sound guy

556
00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:41.920
you know, you know, screwed up some some take and

557
00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:42.319
you have.

558
00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:43.960
To go there and you know, revoice.

559
00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:46.559
Yeah, so there's a whole lot of stuff that goes

560
00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:50.359
on after you've done shooting to support the movie. And

561
00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:53.480
then of course, you know, press is really important and

562
00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:56.839
social media, you know, it becomes this, you know, it

563
00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:02.200
becomes a big deal for me. Yeah, you know, I'm

564
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:06.279
moving on. I just did something a couple of weeks

565
00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:11.200
ago called The Gulf of America, and I just add,

566
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:13.200
you know, as a scene, it was pretty much a

567
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:16.759
monologue that was just so well written and so cool.

568
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:19.920
The story was so cool that, you know, man, I

569
00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:24.039
showed up and mercifully that was fifteen miles from you,

570
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:28.480
so that was also helpful. But you know, I just

571
00:31:28.680 --> 00:31:31.279
like to work. I like to use my imagination. I

572
00:31:31.400 --> 00:31:35.279
like to play these different characters. And you know, it's

573
00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:36.680
a challenge.

574
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:41.079
Fought finally for you, after everything you've done, You've done,

575
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:43.640
you know, I think there's one hundred and fifty plus

576
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:50.960
credits to your name and it's beautifully insane.

577
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:54.720
What keeps you saying yes to horror?

578
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:57.240
You know, you're at a point in your career where

579
00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:00.319
you can decide to not or to do a project act.

580
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:03.440
What keeps Bill saying yes?

581
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:12.640
Well, my wife lifes expensive shoes. I guess an little

582
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:17.200
run for Roman life. Actually, you know, well, else am

583
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:17.640
I gotta do?

584
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:17.960
Well?

585
00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:20.960
I got to sit around and you know clip roses.

586
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:23.519
I don't think so, you know, it's what I like

587
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:26.359
to do and it's what fires me up. I got

588
00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:28.960
to say, just like that Gulf of America. You know,

589
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:32.000
they say, well here's this. It's not very much you know,

590
00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:35.920
money or whatever it is, and not necessarily in that case,

591
00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:39.720
but you know, you you got to have a challenge.

592
00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:42.319
That's that's who I am. It's what I do. It's

593
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:46.359
you know, I still take singing lessons. You know, I've

594
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:50.720
done that for you know, singing lessons for like since

595
00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:54.720
nineteen ninety one. Wow, when I started taking singing lessons.

596
00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:57.599
I still have the same teacher. And so what is

597
00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:01.920
that nine and twenty six is thirty five fucking years?

598
00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:05.680
You know, every Tuesday I go and sing I want

599
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:08.920
to know what love is? Or Hotel California. You know,

600
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:11.359
so you just kind of keep in shape, keep going.

601
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:16.680
I also go to writing class and online writing class.

602
00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:19.000
You know, you've got to keep keep the brain moving,

603
00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:23.039
keep the challenges going. And you know, the nice thing

604
00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:26.160
about the genre is the horror genre is the older

605
00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:27.359
and uglier you are.

606
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:30.920
The more work you're offered, so I'm in my prime. Man.

607
00:33:33.920 --> 00:33:36.000
I love it. Bill. I could talk to you all day.

608
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:39.319
You're amazing. I love the film Scared to Death. I

609
00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:40.519
can't wait for everybody to see it.

610
00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:42.440
And I'm going to be shouting from the rooftops for

611
00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:46.079
people to go see it at a theater because because

612
00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:49.359
that's to me where every film should be seen first. Yeah,

613
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.920
if you can. And I appreciate you so much. Bill,

614
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:54.640
Thank you very much for speaking with me.

615
00:33:56.119 --> 00:33:56.640
My pleasure.

616
00:33:56.720 --> 00:33:58.480
Kyle, thank you, man, Thank you, and I hope to

617
00:33:58.480 --> 00:33:59.039
see you at it.

618
00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:02.119
Steve Warm, thank you, and I hope to see you

619
00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:02.960
at a convention.

620
00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:04.440
Sounds good.

621
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:11.239
Thanks Bill Moseley, my huge thanks to him. It's always

622
00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:14.480
fun talking with someone who's spent decades scaring audiences and

623
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:19.199
somehow still comes across as incredibly nice and charming. And

624
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:21.960
of course we're not done with horror yet. We're gonna

625
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:24.480
take a quick break and when we come back, another

626
00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:27.719
horror legend joins the show. The one and only Lynn

627
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:31.800
Sha stops by to talk about her incredible career and

628
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:35.039
her and her role in Scared to Death. See you

629
00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:37.599
in sixty.

630
00:34:41.320 --> 00:34:43.000
Welcome back to Pop Culture Weekly.

631
00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:46.440
My next guest is someone whose career spans decades and

632
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:50.559
dozens and dozens of films, like quite literally, and if

633
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:53.360
you're a horror fan, you know her. Lynn Shay has

634
00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:57.480
appeared in everything from cult classics to major horror franchises,

635
00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:02.639
including her unforgettable performances in the Insidious series. She's one

636
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:04.519
of those actors who can walk into a scene and

637
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:09.400
instantly make that scene better or scarier. And now she's

638
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:12.840
starring in Scared to Death along with Bill Moseley. So

639
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:16.079
she is joining me to talk about her career, the film,

640
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:18.559
and why horror continues to be one of the most

641
00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:28.000
exciting genres out there. Here she is, Lynn Shay.

642
00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:29.119
Thank you for having me. You know it's fun to

643
00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:32.199
discuss everything and hear your perspective so.

644
00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:36.719
Well, thank you. I absolutely love Scared to Death and

645
00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:38.280
I want to get into that. But if we could

646
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:42.639
go back for a moment, if that's okay. You have

647
00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:48.280
had an amazing career so far. I think your first film,

648
00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:50.880
and please, Lynn Shay, forgive me for saying this, but

649
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:53.840
I think it was nineteen seventy five Hester Street, and

650
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:56.039
I believe your role was horror.

651
00:35:56.679 --> 00:36:00.960
Yeah, horror, Okay, horror. I was horror, and I had

652
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:06.039
I think one line and Joan micklenn Silver, who was

653
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:08.400
a very an innovator. She was there were no women

654
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:12.480
making movies at that time, and she came up with

655
00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:15.159
this one of Carol Caine and Stephen Keats. It's still

656
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:18.360
a true classic. And yeah, it was my first, my

657
00:36:18.440 --> 00:36:21.280
first film role, and my mother. I've told this story.

658
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:24.679
You probably heard it. I was so excited to have

659
00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:26.960
to be in a movie. I mean I was still

660
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:29.679
a I was still a young actress trying to get

661
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:32.039
my you know, get my first role here and there.

662
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:35.519
I was doing mostly theater and I got cast as

663
00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:39.679
this is this prostitute. And so we were in the

664
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:42.320
theater and I went with my mom and at the

665
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:46.239
when the credits rolled, it said Lynn Shay horror. And

666
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:47.960
my mother got up and threw up.

667
00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:50.559
Oh no, he.

668
00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:53.639
Started walking out of the theater and actually just threw

669
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:58.679
up right the ladies. It was very embarrassing. But that

670
00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:03.760
was my like, my anointing into the film industry.

671
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:07.679
It's a great story, though, And when you look back

672
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:12.360
at that that first role to today, did that girl

673
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:14.039
ever imagine all of this?

674
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:20.920
No? No, I never imagine movies, even because I was

675
00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:25.880
a theater actress and I'd always done plays and kind

676
00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:28.960
of worked my way up in New York. I went

677
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:32.159
to Columbia. It was in their theater department. I got

678
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:35.880
a master's degree from Columbia and theater and it was

679
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:39.679
a wonderful place to be because this was the seventies,

680
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:43.400
and it was the American Place Theater and Lincoln Center

681
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:49.360
and Playwrights Horizons and everywhere you could think of Manhattan

682
00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:52.360
Theater Club. All these theaters which then became very big

683
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:55.920
theaters were all off off Broadway theaters. And I never

684
00:37:56.119 --> 00:37:58.639
I was always working. I was doing a reading, I

685
00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:00.280
was doing another play, I was going to do this,

686
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:03.199
I was into a scene. I was never stopping. But

687
00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:05.599
I had no idea about being in movies at all.

688
00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:09.320
I didn't really know very much about it and had

689
00:38:09.320 --> 00:38:12.400
some very early good experiences. Walter Hill cast me and

690
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:15.400
Long Riders, which was one of my I also had

691
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:18.440
one line. I was very big on having one line.

692
00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:22.760
But I'm grateful. I mean, you know, everything leads to

693
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:26.159
other things, and you always just to say, always do

694
00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:28.639
the best you can. Ask questions when you don't know

695
00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:31.719
the answers, and say thank you. Those are all very

696
00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:34.480
important things to get your film career going.

697
00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:35.760
I love that.

698
00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:39.480
And you know, you in a lot of ways, you

699
00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:42.800
got your bigger break later on in your life. What

700
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:46.400
did that teach you or what does that say about

701
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:48.719
timing for you?

702
00:38:48.719 --> 00:38:51.760
You know, I don't even think about that part of

703
00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:54.800
it so much. I just I always wanted to get

704
00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:57.159
the job. That was just I didn't think about this

705
00:38:57.239 --> 00:38:59.199
job would lead to another job, and if I do

706
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:01.920
that job, then that job is good. I never even thought.

707
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:04.280
I was always moment to moment, you know. I mean,

708
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:07.960
I was so excited to get cast in anything, and

709
00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:11.039
and really love I loved, I love I still love.

710
00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:18.159
I love acting. It's really an incredibly interesting journey into

711
00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:21.400
other people's hearts and minds, you know, and and yet

712
00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:23.760
it's created by your own heart and mind. I mean,

713
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:29.679
it's a really fantastic experience. And so I didn't have

714
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:32.480
any idea, you know, really, I when I was a

715
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:35.679
little girl, I that's how I entertained myself because we

716
00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:37.880
didn't have a lot of kids in the neighborhood. So

717
00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:40.679
my mom would give me a big box with ribbons

718
00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:43.320
and crans in it, and then I would take all

719
00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:45.480
my clothes out of my closet, and with my stuffed

720
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:48.519
animals and my dolls, I would make up plays in

721
00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:51.480
front of the mirror and I would write stories and

722
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:53.840
with my crams, and I would show them to the

723
00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:56.880
bear on the couch and then to the you know,

724
00:39:56.960 --> 00:39:59.400
to the stuff dog that I slept with, and it

725
00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:03.199
was like I was I was nurtured. My creativity was nurtured.

726
00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:06.599
Every kid. All I can say is, anybody who's got

727
00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:11.280
kids out there, take their take this away from them, please,

728
00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:15.440
because you're short circuiting their own imagination. And I am

729
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:19.119
so grateful that my I would mind was nurtured. And

730
00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:22.679
look what happened. It like worked, Yeah, yeah, did I

731
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:24.280
actually get paid to do what I do?

732
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:25.039
Right?

733
00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:25.880
That much?

734
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:31.000
But oh, Ben, you know, but nevertheless.

735
00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:35.320
You have found a you know, you've become a horror legend.

736
00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:38.679
You know you are a v I would say, scream

737
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:43.119
queen in so many ways. Do you feel you kind

738
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:47.119
of sought out that at a certain point or did

739
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:48.400
horror kind of find you?

740
00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:51.559
I think horror kind of found me in a way

741
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:57.199
because I never really differentiated, you know, a character's character.

742
00:40:57.599 --> 00:40:59.800
If you're in a terrible situation and try to kill

743
00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:02.840
some buddy. That's just part of as part of your character.

744
00:41:03.360 --> 00:41:05.000
And you know, if you're sitting at a dining room

745
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:09.199
table and talking about you know, your cup Scout meeting

746
00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:11.480
you just were at with your kid or whatever. So

747
00:41:11.679 --> 00:41:14.519
it's really I don't really make the differentiation so much.

748
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:18.800
It's always the story comes first. What is the story?

749
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:23.039
And even your character doesn't come first, because your character

750
00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:25.840
has to support the tale you're telling and the story

751
00:41:26.239 --> 00:41:28.679
and then make it even heighten it. But you've got

752
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:32.320
to start with the material, that's all. That's always very important,

753
00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:35.679
and you have to be able to justify who your

754
00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:39.079
character is within that material. And I mean that's the

755
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:41.800
only way. The way I kind of discovered working was

756
00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:44.840
the most important way, because if you just bring in

757
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:48.960
random stuff that doesn't fit anywhere, even if it's wonderful,

758
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:52.280
you know, then you're sort of solo, and that is

759
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:55.840
not usually your your role in a film. You want

760
00:41:55.880 --> 00:42:01.480
to be support the story and other characters. So I

761
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:03.519
just I kind of just like it all. I mean,

762
00:42:03.559 --> 00:42:07.199
I you know, I love being able to create ideas

763
00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:10.920
and have them support other people's ideas.

764
00:42:11.639 --> 00:42:14.400
And clearly it's worked, and you know, I think one

765
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:16.880
of the things that so many people I know, I do,

766
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:21.119
I love that you do in your work is you

767
00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:24.079
kind of elevate it. So in other words, you know,

768
00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:28.519
I feel like unfairly horror tends to get kind of

769
00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:32.480
the short end of the stick in regards to maybe

770
00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:36.880
critics or or that sort of thing where people, you know,

771
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:40.119
a certain section of people feel it's very throwaway.

772
00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:42.280
And I think you prove that.

773
00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:46.760
You know, you can bring incredible acting to to any project.

774
00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:50.400
You know, Oh, I agree hundred percent. You know, you

775
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:52.559
still got to do. The important thing is to do

776
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:55.199
the work. They're really that rule is there's really no

777
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:59.480
small parts. There's only small actors. I mean, it's really true.

778
00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:02.639
I mean there's other many other examples of that, but

779
00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:05.960
I mean part of the fun for me is it's

780
00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:08.800
not about the size of the role. It's really about

781
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:11.960
what can you contribute. You know, when I think about

782
00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:14.440
Kingpin in particular, which was one of my all time

783
00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:17.920
favorite and I success stories in a way, may I say,

784
00:43:18.199 --> 00:43:19.679
because they didn't want to see me for that and

785
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:21.239
I had to fight for it and fight for it

786
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:23.920
and it was a very short little scene with you know,

787
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:26.920
I was grateful to work with Woody Harrelson, who's still

788
00:43:26.960 --> 00:43:29.760
to this day is yes, yes, yes, he's He's just

789
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:32.800
he was the best, the best ever, one of my

790
00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:39.239
favorite seeing partners ever. But that it's it doesn't matter,

791
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:41.440
it doesn't matter. It's like what you bring is what

792
00:43:41.480 --> 00:43:45.559
people are going to remember. And I've been really grateful

793
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:51.760
that that's how I feel and think because I had

794
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:54.960
one line in some TV thing I can't even Marshall

795
00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:58.760
Hirshkabez was the producer. He was a big producer in

796
00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:01.800
the sixties or so and these it is the seventies

797
00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:05.239
I think, and it was a big show on TV.

798
00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:08.440
And I had one line. And I remember him calling

799
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:10.800
me and saying, you have no idea how much you

800
00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:14.599
contributed to that scene? And I just thought, I don't

801
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:16.519
what are you talking about. You know, I had one line.

802
00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:18.599
He said, That's what I'm saying. He said, you have

803
00:44:18.679 --> 00:44:22.159
no idea how much that changed the way other people

804
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:27.599
performed that day. Wow, And I was so like wow,

805
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:33.440
it was really an incredible, wonderful experience to be singled

806
00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:36.280
out by the executive I think he was the executive

807
00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:43.960
producer or producer and did always find find the juice

808
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:47.719
in any any in one line, there's something you can contribute,

809
00:44:48.039 --> 00:44:49.760
and I love that as an artist, you know, that's

810
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:52.000
why we're part of the reason we're doing what we do.

811
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:56.039
So that's great.

812
00:44:57.320 --> 00:44:58.920
Now scared to death it is.

813
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:01.920
It reminds me of like Sam sam Raimi film Out

814
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:07.159
kind of you know, flirts with comedy and horror and

815
00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:10.440
kind of goes back and forth. And it's just fun

816
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:14.199
as for me, as if you were what drew you

817
00:45:14.360 --> 00:45:16.920
to you know what drew you to that what made

818
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:20.320
Lynde Shay say this is something that I want to do.

819
00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:25.960
I just loved the character She's that she's nasty and attractive.

820
00:45:26.280 --> 00:45:29.039
Those are which I don't think I never played nasty

821
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:33.639
attractive for and and that she has a reason that

822
00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:36.400
she's like she is, that we got to discover that

823
00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:39.639
there's she's not just a one no badass. I mean

824
00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:44.719
that she had her history also created this character that

825
00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:47.800
was nasty to other people. And I love that it's

826
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:49.800
you see it and you know, kind of settled nice

827
00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:52.719
ways throughout the film as well, that she she changes

828
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:55.480
and you see what what she dealt with as a kid.

829
00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:57.679
So it has you know, a real kind of heart

830
00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:02.559
to it and me. I love Paul and I love Eric.

831
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:05.039
I mean, they're just two really wonderful people to work

832
00:46:05.079 --> 00:46:07.840
with for me, and I have great respect for So

833
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:10.199
it was a no. It was a win win situation,

834
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:13.559
you know, in every way. And I'm very happy that

835
00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:17.119
people really are enjoying the film and you know, and

836
00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:20.960
having an experience of their own with it, which is great.

837
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:25.519
What you've said before in interviews that you know, horror

838
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:29.559
is really about the emotional truth. What is the emotional

839
00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:31.559
truth for you? And scared to death?

840
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:42.400
Oh, the people can hurt you and change you, and

841
00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:51.880
it's your responsibility to emerge from that triumphant that you

842
00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:55.320
don't have to become who they've made you be, but

843
00:46:55.400 --> 00:46:59.280
you can still become. You still have to remember there's

844
00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:01.920
a world out there that you have to articulate and

845
00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:03.840
what does it make you feel? And you don't have

846
00:47:03.880 --> 00:47:06.800
to be the way they told you you're supposed to feel. That.

847
00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:09.760
You have to take it in yourself and think, maybe

848
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:12.280
this is not maybe this is good. Maybe Jasper is

849
00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:15.440
a really good guy. What if he has something to

850
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:19.559
teach me. You've got to stay open. It's hard. I mean,

851
00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:22.440
I'm the first one to say I'm not doing it.

852
00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:24.719
You know, you can get out of my die. I'm

853
00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:26.599
not doing it. We're not doing it. And then I

854
00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:29.320
have to settle down and think, Okay, take a deep breath,

855
00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:33.400
and you know which is my real name, and know

856
00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:36.519
how I talk to myself, you know, and to really

857
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:39.119
take a deep breath and look out, because we so

858
00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:42.280
we get so caught inside ourselves, and I think that's

859
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:46.079
how we destroy ourselves. You know, you're not allowing There's

860
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:48.800
all kinds of stuff around that will pull you away

861
00:47:48.840 --> 00:47:52.360
from the negative. You know, look outside one day and

862
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:55.360
watch the bird that's landed on the thing. I hate

863
00:47:55.400 --> 00:47:58.440
to sound corny, but it's not corny. I mean, I'm

864
00:47:58.519 --> 00:48:00.280
so happy in the way I live because I have

865
00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:02.679
a lot of nature around me. All I have to

866
00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:05.280
do is walk out my door if I'm not feeling

867
00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:08.239
great about something, It's all i have to do. And

868
00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:09.199
all of a sudden, it's like.

869
00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:09.920
Oh my god.

870
00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:13.960
You know, suddenly you could feel everything open. And that's

871
00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:18.639
how you stay healthy. Also, constriction is what makes people sick.

872
00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:23.280
Remember that it's about when they say breathe, they really

873
00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:27.199
need breath. And we all have that capacity, and we

874
00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:29.960
all have to remember we have it because that will

875
00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:33.639
help us stay well and move forward.

876
00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:35.360
That is beautiful.

877
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:40.239
So you know, for scared to death, you've done you know,

878
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:43.159
smaller in the films, you've done big budget, you know,

879
00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:50.480
giant studio films. Where how do you find as an actor,

880
00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:56.599
if any, the difference in that system for you as

881
00:48:56.679 --> 00:49:00.840
an actor approaching that, I think it's the same.

882
00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:03.159
I mean, I think you you know, whether it's a

883
00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:07.199
lot of money or a small budget, it's still about cooperation,

884
00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:13.199
being a good listener, being a contributor. Don't be a complainer.

885
00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:15.960
You know, if you have something that's not working, you

886
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:19.920
can still express it, but don't name men, and don't

887
00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:23.239
I get there, you cam, I'm not gonna do. You

888
00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:25.920
have to, like you know, go to the person that

889
00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:28.800
can maybe help change it. And always be polite. I mean,

890
00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:32.360
being courteous goes a long way in our in our

891
00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:34.880
business because there are a lot of people, they're so

892
00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:38.400
they're so short circuited by all the it's a tough

893
00:49:38.440 --> 00:49:42.320
business and to stay centered and everybody wants something. Every

894
00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:46.159
single second is solving a problem. Every second is solving

895
00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:51.280
another problem. And so I think you can contribute by

896
00:49:53.159 --> 00:49:57.719
taking a deep breath and again being being a good

897
00:49:57.800 --> 00:50:00.199
listener to what's around you, kind of opening yourself up,

898
00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:02.880
and you know, sometimes you've got to be a little

899
00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:05.000
quiet on set. I don't care if you're the star,

900
00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:07.920
you're not the star, or you're a gopher or whatever.

901
00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:10.719
Sometimes you just have to settle and be a listener

902
00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:14.199
to see what the next positive move is to make.

903
00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:18.599
So I forgot what you asked.

904
00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:23.800
Me, you answered, You answered it wonderfully. Do you You

905
00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:27.400
know you've done one hundred and fifty some plus projects.

906
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:31.239
Do you Is there something that you haven't yet done

907
00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:33.119
that you're like that? You know, I'm going to do

908
00:50:33.239 --> 00:50:35.760
that one of my next five projects. I'm going to

909
00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:36.039
do that.

910
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:37.760
I don't think.

911
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:37.880
So.

912
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:40.119
The only thing I thought of is I don't ever

913
00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:42.519
want to do Shakespeare because I could never learn that.

914
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:50.239
And I was watching Sir, Oh my god, oh late

915
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:57.039
and Stephen Colbert, Sir, the most wonderful English actor on

916
00:50:57.079 --> 00:51:00.480
the planet, who is Oh my gosh, I'm I've been

917
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:02.880
talking so much today, I can't think. But he did.

918
00:51:03.199 --> 00:51:09.719
He did a Shakespeare's soliloquy that I was bawling. It

919
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:12.280
was so beautiful, and I thought I could never do that,

920
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:13.880
And I really don't think I could.

921
00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:14.639
I don't.

922
00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:22.159
I have too much fear in me about about on

923
00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:24.679
some level that would not allow me to learn that,

924
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:26.599
to be able to learn it and to perform it.

925
00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:29.519
Not so much that I don't understand it even because

926
00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:34.719
oh gosh, I was gonna kill me because he's one

927
00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:37.599
of the most famous English actors. Can you think who

928
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:37.960
it is?

929
00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:41.039
I know, I'm like my brain is racking up.

930
00:51:41.360 --> 00:51:44.119
Hey, look up Stephen Colbert and Shakespeare and see what

931
00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:50.000
do you see? What shows up? But it's material that

932
00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:53.079
I think goes goes beyond me, and I hate to

933
00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:55.519
admit that, but that's how I feel. I don't really

934
00:51:55.639 --> 00:51:57.880
under it would take me so long to really understand

935
00:51:57.920 --> 00:51:59.760
what I was saying and to be able to take

936
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:01.960
that into my system and then to be able to

937
00:52:02.039 --> 00:52:06.119
deliver it to someone else. I find that magic, and

938
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:08.639
I feel like I'm aware of my own limitations and

939
00:52:08.679 --> 00:52:12.199
so I respect those and I'm old enough to go.

940
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:15.639
I don't have to kill myself over you know. I

941
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:19.159
mean that I'm clear about the things I'm good at

942
00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:22.320
and what I love doing, and hopefully I can do

943
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:24.920
that for very many long more years, you know. So

944
00:52:26.320 --> 00:52:27.360
did you find it did you.

945
00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:29.039
Find That's what I'm looking up right now.

946
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:31.119
It's going to make me crazy.

947
00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:39.199
It's Shakespear. It was just sir, Yes, Sir Ian McKellen.

948
00:52:39.280 --> 00:52:40.159
He is incredible.

949
00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:44.119
Oh my god. I just he had us. I means

950
00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:48.039
it was thrilling because I understood every word he said,

951
00:52:48.400 --> 00:52:50.400
and when I look at it on a page, I go,

952
00:52:50.639 --> 00:52:52.559
I don't really know what that means, and I don't believe.

953
00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:54.800
I mean, I have a fear factor that I could

954
00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:58.480
do without, but I'm still there. But when I I

955
00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:01.000
literally I said on my couch, just weeping, it was

956
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:06.400
so beautiful. So I have to know my limitations of

957
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:08.960
what I'm really good at, and I don't have to

958
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:11.119
get mad at myself for the things I don't want

959
00:53:11.159 --> 00:53:14.199
to tackle because I'm still have fear and try and

960
00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:17.639
use all that stuff to filter down into the work

961
00:53:17.719 --> 00:53:20.159
I do do and will do and present back to you.

962
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:22.079
It's the human condition.

963
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:23.559
I love that.

964
00:53:23.639 --> 00:53:28.239
And finally, you know you've done such incredible work over

965
00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:31.880
you know so many titles. What do you want people

966
00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:36.239
to remember about your work? You know, one hundred years

967
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:37.760
from now, three hundred years.

968
00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:40.119
Fer while, or you.

969
00:53:41.800 --> 00:53:43.320
I just hope they remember.

970
00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:46.400
Something I don't.

971
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:54.880
I guess truth maybe exposing a part of of self

972
00:53:54.920 --> 00:54:00.679
that we all have that people don't often visit to

973
00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:04.639
surprise people a little bit with things about themselves that

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they haven't thought to really consider. But that's a great question.

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I'm going to think about that one for a while.

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I'm just so grateful to have this life I have.

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I mean, it's just having I'm having a wonderful, wonderful time,

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and I really want to give back everything I can

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to uh support. I love telling young actors, giving them hope,

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and it's so easy, you know, because they want to

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hear it. And so I love giving as much as

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much as I can give to someone else to make

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them believe in themselves. That would be a gift for

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me to be able to give.

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Wow, that's beautiful. Thank you so much, Lenne. You are

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a legend and icon and such a sweet person. I

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really appreciate your time.

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Well, this was a great and you also made me

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feel good about myself with how with my ani answers

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to your wonderful questions and that was that. Thank you

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for that as well.

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So thank you, and I hope to talk to you

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for your next project.

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Yep, there's gonna be.

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We're gonna be.

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Have a great day.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you, Lynn Shay.

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Always great talking with someone who has helped literally shape

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modern horror the way she has. And again, if you're

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ready for something spooky, you can check out Scared to Death,

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which is out right.

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Now and I highly recommend it.

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All right, that's today's episode of pop Culture Weekly. We

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talked about slanted and dove headfirst into Scared to Death,

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which means today's episode had satire, identity and people who

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have spent their careers terrifying audiences in the best possible

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way and to our delight, and honestly, that's a pretty

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good pop culture mix. If you enjoyed the show, make

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sure you're subscribed wherever you listen so you never miss

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check out the pop Culture Weekly YouTube channel. Until next time,

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keep watching great movies, avoid haunted houses when possible, and

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I'll see you next time.

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I love you, see you next week.

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We thank you for listening to pop Culture Weekly. Here

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Lynn Freakin' shay and Bill freaking mostly Lynn freakin shame

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and Bill freaking mostly