Bailey Zimmerman; Vera Farmiga & Patrick Wilson (The Conjuring: Last Rites)

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In this episode of pop Culture Weekly, I talk with

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the cast and crew of The Conjuring Last Rights, and

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I sit down for a long talk with the amazing

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Balley Zimmerman. Let's go. Welcome to pop Culture Weekly with

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Kyle McMahon from iHeartRadio.

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Your pop culture news, views, reviews and celebrity interviews on all.

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Here's Kyle McMahon.

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Nick, No, no, no, Nick.

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What's up my pop culture people, It's your boy, Kyle

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McMahon And Welcome to pop Culture Weekly with Kyle McMahon,

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the show where I get to talk with some of

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the biggest names in entertainment while you sit and relax

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and judge me for fangirling too hard. Today's episode, I'm

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stoked because it's really stacked. We're talking about The Conjuring

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Last Rights, the terrifying, demon filled jump scare franchise that

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always keeps me coming back even though I sleep with

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the lights on for like a week after. I've got

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director Michael Chavez, franchise mastermind and horror legend James Wand

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and the ultimate ghost busting power couple Patrick Wilson and

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Vera Farmiga. And then we switched gears in a big

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way with country superstar Bailey Zimmerman, who currently has the

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number one song in country music with Backup Plan featuring

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Luke Combs. This man and I talked for almost an hour,

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his life, his career, and yes, that live incident. So

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grab your popcorn or your holy water, because here we go. First, up,

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the man and the director's share for the Conjuring Last Rites,

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Michael Chavez. He is the brave soul responsible for actually

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wrangling demons and ghosts and actors who have to scream

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on c Honestly, directing a conjuring movie sounds like my

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personal nightmare, but also kind of awesome anyway. Michael is

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no stranger to the Conjuring franchise. He directed The Curse

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of La Larona, the Conjuring, The Devil Made Me do It,

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the Nun too, and now, of course the Conjuring Last Rights.

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All right here he is Michael Chavez. Thank you so much,

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Michael for speaking with me. I really appreciate it. I

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love Last Rights. I mean, I love the whole franchise,

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but Last Rights is such a beautiful full circle moment

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for the franchise. Did you feel that going into you know,

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to working on this, like this is kind of heavy

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for fans of you know, nearly what a decade and

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a half. Totally.

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I thanks for saying that. I honestly, the full Circle

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thing is something I really wanted to get. It was

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something that it was like when we would test it

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with audiences, they would say that, and I was like,

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oh my god, thank god, who we landed and we

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landed the plane. It was you know, kind of a great, amazing,

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big responsibility of just you know, this is a series

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that so many people love, and you know, telling a

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final chapter is is great opportunity and also like really challenging.

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And I honestly with this, like one of the big

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references that I would use as we were developing it

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is is Logan.

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I you know, because.

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Whenever you kind of get into these like last chapter

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you know movies, there's so many kind of great references

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and you know, is it like an endgame sort of

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thing where we throw all the demons at them?

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Or what do we do?

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And what I loved about Logan and that kind of

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became the North Stars is it didn't have that. It

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wasn't like they're throwing Sabertooth and Magneto in it's like

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they're they're telling an emotional story and then it's going

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to bring us to the to the finish line. And

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you know, people love the Warrens so much that I

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think it was just important to really bring their story

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and their family story.

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To a c and it was beautifully done. There was

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a lot of mirrors, both kind of you know, prominently

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present and more subtly was that obviously everything you've done

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is intentional, but what was the representation behind that?

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Yeah, totally.

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You know that the mirror is actually within the film,

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real mirror, and I would encourage fans to stay to

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the very end after the credits. There's like, it's not

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a tease for another movie, but there is something that

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is just this kind of great find that we wanted

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to put in in the film. Obviously, there's a lot

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of you know, mirroring within the story. It's like, you know,

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mirroring the past and the present, and you know Lorraine

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as a young woman to Lorraine as she is now

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in the present, or the president of the story, and

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then also between just mother and daughter and just how

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our children are reflections of ourselves. And I think that

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that was the Richard and Ian are our writers. They

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they did a pass write after Dave Leslie Johnson. They're

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the ones who actually introduced the idea of the mirror,

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and I just thought it was such a a smart

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addition and it just I think complimented the whole mother

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daughter story so beautifully.

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I've got to ask you, you did the Curse of

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La Larona? Is that it can we get definitively? Is

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that in the Conjuring Universe or not?

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That's what's so funny, you know, that is such like

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you know, the real technically it is it has kind

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of become adopted. It's the adopted child of the Conjuring Universe.

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It's technically not because Peter Saffron isn't the producer on it,

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and Peter, you know, this is Peter's baby as much

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as it is James's. And but it was when we

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made it, it was Walt to Matta, who was an

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executive at New Line, was like basically asked a favor

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to to include like a little glimpse of Annabel, which

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kind of like introduced it almost as if it was

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part of the universe. And and so then there's there's

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kind of been a little bit of debate about that,

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and you know, if you know, in respect to Peter,

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I have to officially say it's not, but if you

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ask me, yes, it definitely is.

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Thank you. I can't wait for everybody to see the

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Conjuring last rotes. It is so awesome. And I hope

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that I get to talk to you again for I

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hope for more Conjuring somehow, some way in the future.

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Thank you, Michael, Thanks so much. I appreciate the time.

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Thank you, Michael Chevies. All right, now, if horror had

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a Mount Rushmore, James Wand's face would definitely be up there,

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right next to Freddy Jason and probably Annabel just glaring

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at us. He co created the Conjuring universe, and somehow

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he keeps finding new ways to make us jump out

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of our seats, and his resume is basically a greatest

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hits list of like modern horror. He co created It Saw, Yes,

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That Saw, which redefined the kind of you know, gore

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porn genre in the early two thousands and has kept

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it going. Then he gave us Insidious of course the Conjuring,

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and he turned a creepy porcelain doll into a household

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name with Annabelle and because he's apparently allergic to sleep.

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He also directed Aquaman and it's sequel, Aquaman and the

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Lost Kingdom. So basically, James Wan has either terrified you,

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thrilled you, or made you cheer in a movie theater,

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sometimes all three in the same year, and even in

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the same movie. Here he is James Wan. Thank you

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so much, James for joining me. I really appreciate it.

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Thanks Kyl.

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Great to be speaking with you.

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So, first of all, I'm a huge fan of your work, Malignant,

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the Conjuring Universe, Insidious Saw. I mean just love your work,

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and of course and the Conjuring franchise is one of

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my favorites of all time. Why was this chapter important

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for you to tell here?

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Well, I mean, this chapter is the final chapter, and

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so so it was one that we felt, you know,

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after more than a decade, that it was finally time

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to kind of wrap it up. Uh, you know, we've

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we've been through this, you know, on many, many movies,

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like within the Conjuring Universe. You know, we've had a

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lot of very We've been very fortunate to have a

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lot of successful movies within this universe. And uh and

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so you know, we've we felt like, you know, uh,

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you know, we want to go out.

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On a high.

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You know, we feel like now is the time.

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You know, we don't want to be going.

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Out as the movie is degrading, right, and so we

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felt like this was a good time. But yeah, needless

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to say, it's really bittersweet for all of us involved.

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And uh, you know, but we wanted to make the

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best movie we can. That really justifies the franchise, and

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that is warranted and you know, worthy for the fans.

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I think, you know, as a huge fan, I think

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it does just that. Now. David Zaslav, I believe at

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one point said that this is kind of the closing

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of phase one and there may be a phase two

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with potentially a TV series or whatever. Is any of

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that still in the works.

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I mean, I guess, you know, from the studio side

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of things, everything is a possibility, you know, I guess. Yeah,

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it's interesting that we're pulling a page from the Marvel

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playbook here, right, I guess Phase one is a way

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to look at it, and so there's possibilities of phase

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two just purely from a creative standpoint, you know. The

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warrants have so many stories, so many different cases, and

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it's not crazy that they are other stories that we

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could be looking into. But I do think it's a

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bit early to be talking about any other phases. Yeah,

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for me, I just want to focus on this one

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and getting this one right and getting this one out

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there to your audiences.

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Absolutely. And you know what for me, I think has

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been so important to why these films have been so

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good is the relationship between the warrants, you know, Vira

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and Patrick and how well they do that. How key

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was that for you after doing the first film? You

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know now that you're doing potentially the last film. You know,

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did you watch that develop did you change anything based

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on their chemistry? And you know that sort of thing.

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more than anything, right that That's pretty much what I

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discovered in the first film. You know, we all knew

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collectively going into the first Conjuring because it's based on

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real characters, real events. We wanted to ground the movie

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as much as we can, right And and what I

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learned from Insidious when I meet the first Insidious film

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was that people really loved the more realistic aspect of it.

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And so what I learned from in Sylia's I parlate

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that into the conjuring and I knew that if I

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can create real people with real emotions and real issues

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and real traumas right that they're dealing with, then then

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the scars would actually play better. They'll be a lot scary, right.

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And so so then, you know, I'm very lucky that

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I was able to get Patrick Wilson and very for

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me to come play with me on the first movie.

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And then seeing how great they were together, just their

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chemistry just did the way they they they they riff

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off each other and uh, and just watching that really

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did push me as I was shooting it, because filmmaking

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is a very organic process, and so so I just started,

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you know, just like shifting and pushing things and navigetting

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things towards more about their relationship, the family dynamic and uh.

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And and we knew that we want this last movie

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to finish leaning into the whole family aspect everything. We

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knew that the family aspect really lends itself to the

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emotion of this wall and it was the right thing

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to do, you know, to bring in the daughter Judy

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and to bring in the Tony Sperrit character into this

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as well, and just really, you know, really play into

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all of that.

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I think you've done it masterfully. I love the film.

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I can't wait till comes out so I can talk

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to people about it. But thank you so much, James,

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I really appreciate it. Awesome Kyle, Thank you, sir, have

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a good day. Thank you, Thank you our legend James one.

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And now the first couple of ghost Hunting, Patrick Wilson

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and Vera Farmiga. These two, as Ed and Lorraine Warren,

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have really been the heart of the Conjuring movies since

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the very beginning. They are amazingly charming, They've got a

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spooky side, and they somehow make fighting demons look like

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couples therapy. Let's get into it. Patrick Wilson and Vera Farmiga. Wow.

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I love the whole franchise. But this film is so great,

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you know, I think it's such a powerful way to potentially,

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you know, close this chapter on the story. You guys

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have lived with these characters for over a decade. What

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was that like to step on, you know, set, knowing

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this maybe the final old chapter here?

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Well and not maybe it is the final chapter.

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I just hate hearing that.

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I know, but that's it. That's it, the end of

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the road for these two. And they are the ultimate team,

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aren't they. I mean, there's their bond is a testament

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to like almost two decades of love, you know, all

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served up in iconic polyester pants and skirts and weird

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ass up dues and you know, it's been a it's

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been a trip, a beautiful trip. But this one took

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the This one took a lot out of us. Man,

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it is that last time and we had the stakes

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are higher than ever on this one.

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How about for you, Patrick, did you sense that weight

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you know, going for this one?

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I think because the you know, I think in order

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to kind of feel the weight of something, you have

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to be disconnected as an actor and be able to

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embrace it as a as a person. And that doesn't

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happen on these films because the work is so full off.

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Like so by the time we ended the film and

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you're you wish you could have that great goodbye and

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just an easy day of work and get to hug

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everybody and you have a cake or whatever and go,

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oh my god, it's over and you cry and you

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say thank you. I mean, this was like if you've

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seen the movie, the is like the climax to end

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all climaxes of a film. I mean, it's brutal. And

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we did that for what seemed like a week straight,

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and we knew because there were wind machines and everything

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else and testing that they would do later we'd probably

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come back and revisit it, which we did, so there

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was never like a proper goodbye. It was just this

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this train of emotion and raw energy kind of going

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towards the end. So we didn't really have that moment

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of feeling the weight of the series because also there's shooting,

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there's additional photography, and then there's this like we're doing now,

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and then there's the movie coming out and sitting back

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and going gosh, did it land with an audience? So

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it comes in phases.

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So we're still not done, but you know, I think

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it's probably gonna take another it'll probably take it. For me,

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it'll probably be like an like like a year and

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a half where I'll go, should I grow my cybrids

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out for to play ed?

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Like, Nope, not happen. So that's what it'll hit me.

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These films for me are very much besides about family,

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there's there's a faith versus kind of this supernatural you

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know element. Did did it change either of your belief

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in you know, supernatural or faith or affected at all?

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To me, it's a reminder of the power of love.

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Like it's I just love love, love, portraying, portraying the

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dynamic between Ed and Lorraine, and so it is about

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so much a focus on like sacrifice and resilience and

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finding strength through weakness and perseverance and commitment to each other.

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And and I I it's now I've forgotten the question.

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Faith versus yeah faith?

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Yeah, well yeah, so it's just like playing all those

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hitting those and coming back time and time again and

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saying like, oh, like what this is another opportunity to

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delve into their love, into sacrifice, and like it always

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is that that I don't know, just focusing on that

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statement of you know, fear is this like this crazy

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ass storm in our lives and love is that umbrella

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that's going to shield us from it? Right, And just

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tapping into that very simple notion and concept has been

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in It's been beautiful.

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Yeah, thank you both so much. I really love the

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film and congratulations on it. Take care. Patrick Wilson and

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Verra for Mega love Love love them, love them as

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the Warrens, and I love the Conjuring Last Rites. I mean,

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I love the whole Conjuring franchise. But I really hope

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this isn't the end of this franchise. It's too good

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to just stop, and they have so many things to do,

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and you know, Vera and Patrick are young. They could

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be doing this for another thirty years if they want.

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I have a whole guide to the Conjuring Universe. I

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put it in the I put a link in the

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show notes so you can check out my guide and

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my review of The Conjuring Last Rites, and check out

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my guide to the Conjuring Franchise universe. The Conjuring Universe franchise.

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I guess all right, we're gonna take a quick break

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to pay the bills. But when we come back, I

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sit down for nearly an hour with one of the

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biggest names in country music, Bailey Zimmerman. You don't want

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to miss this one. Stick around. I'll see in sixty

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all right, we are back, and this is one I've

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been so excited about. Bailly Zimmerman currently has the number

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one country song in America with Luke Combe's backup plan.

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It's off his brand new album, Different Night, Same Rodeo,

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which is awesome and I have a react coming to

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that for when I listened to the album the first time.

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That'll be on the YouTube channel. In any event, Bailly

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and I sat down for nearly an hour and nothing

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was off the table. We talked about his life story,

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what he'd be doing if he which and his life

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story is pretty incredible. We talked about what he'd be

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doing if he wasn't making music. That live incident that

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went viral. Bailey kept it real and it's honestly one

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of my favorite conversations I've ever had on this show.

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Here he is, Bailey Zimmerman, brow what up? How are

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you going on?

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Amazing? Dude? Are you thanks for having me?

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Thank you for coming on. I really appreciate it. I'm

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excited to talk to you.

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Yeah.

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So, I'm sorry.

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It was cool here and your story man, that's crazy.

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Yeah, yeah, it's it's wild.

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It's a weird industry, man, it is it is.

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Yeah, and then here I am now doing this so.

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God has play all of us man absolutely yeah.

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So well, first of all, bro, welcome Bailey zimmer Man.

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I really appreciate you speaking with me.

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Brother, Oh yeah, I did. Thanks for having me on

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This is.

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Sick, of course, and we're gonna talk about your new

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album different nights, saying rodeo. But I want to go

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back for a moment, if you would. You were working

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on you know, construction, pipeline things like that, and then

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you started uploading to TikTok uh was being an artist

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back then? Ever, like in your kind of life plan?

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No, man, I had never even thought about doing music

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at all. I'd always like kind of dreamed of being

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like famous and stuff. I think every kid does, I guess,

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you know, like watching Justin Bieber do it and then

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watching just all these people I've watched, you know, Kane

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Brown on Facebook type thing. Yeah, so it was like, man,

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how cool would that be if that was my life?

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But it's not.

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So I'm going to go to work today, right, So, No, man,

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it was never in the cards. I I never you know,

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I didn't come from a musical family. I didn't sing

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in church. I had never sang in my life before.

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Wow, TikTok Yeah that's incredible. And what was the moment

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that you were like, Okay, this isn't just a hobby anymore,

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like this, this is becoming something. This is something now, dude.

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It was such a weird thing for me because so

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I started on TikTok doing lifted trucks, Like I grew

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up loving lifted trucks and fast cars, and I'd always

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wanted to lift a truck. So when I turned eighteen,

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I when I went to go pipeline, I was making

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enough money to build a truck.

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So I built a truck with my family.

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My uncle Brent helped me, My brother John helped me

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build a truck, and I started posting that on TikTok.

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And that's what kind of got me a bunch of

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followers at first, was like my truck went kind of

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viral in the truck talk space, I guess, on TikTok.

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And so I started actually going around to all of

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these like truck shows all around the US, and I

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would travel in my truck and go and meet up

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with these buddies that I would, you know, get to

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know on TikTok first and then I would meet them

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in real life. And so I was just trying to

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like I was like trying to like growing a following.

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Meeting new friends in the truck scene.

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And then one night we were drinking beer around a

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campfire and I started singing, just you know.

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Buzzed up, having a great time with your buddies.

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A good song comes on, you know, and I started

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singing and they were like, man, you got a voice, dude.

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And I'm like, nah, I just you know, like what

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are you talking about? And You're like no, like your

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voice was really cool. And that kind of like inspired me,

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I guess, just a little bit.

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Like I was like, oh, that's cool. Like I've never

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had anybody tell me I've got a cool voice, you know.

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And so that's when.

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I I started just singing a little more at the campfires,

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and I had a couple more people tell me like, man,

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your voice was really cool, and that kind of got

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my brain like hmm, like what does that mean, Like my.

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I don't know.

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So I just thought it was cool that people thought

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my voice was cool. So I kind of, in secret,

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like secrecy, started singing a little bit more on my own.

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And from the time somebody told me, hey, your voice

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is cool, to the time I released my first song

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was probably like two months.

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Wow.

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So and this is why I'm like, man, I'm just

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so thankful for God man, because I really feel like

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it's my path. So when I started singing, I didn't

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post anything on TikTok yet I posted something on Snapchat

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because I thought, oh, maybe this will give me some

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girls or something. Me singing on Snapchat, right, So I

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put it up and it didn't get any girls. But

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this guy from my hometown named Gavin Lucas split up

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and was like, hey, man, I didn't know you like

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sang and I'm like, dude, I don't. I just had,

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like I tried singing the other day around a campfire.

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Somebody told me my voice was good, and I just

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put it on Snapchat. I honestly thought I was trying

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to get some girls, but what's up? And he was like, well, dude,

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I've been like secretively writing songs for like years. But

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I didn't really want to like show him anybody because

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I don't know, you know, I just have been writing.

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And I'm like, well, dude, we should get together, and

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he was like, yeah, I would love to hear you

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sing some of my songs.

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And I'm like okay.

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So then when we got together, that was about a

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month into being like, man, do I have a cool

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voice and then man. Three weeks later, two weeks later,

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me and Gavin got together, like maybe our tenth time

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getting together, and he was like, man, we should try

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to write.

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A real song. And I was like, you know what,

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I'll try it.

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Let's do it.

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And so we sat down that night and we wrote

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my first song, never Coming Home, And after.

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We wrote it was only the first verse.

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I wrote the first verse, and then it was like

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two am and we were going to go home, and

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he was like, hey, let's record this so we remember

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where we're at. Because, like I said, at this point,

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I had never written songs before. I never sang really before.

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I have no idea how to play guitar, I have

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no idea what I'm doing. And this song was just like, man,

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this is really cool, Like I really liked this song,

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and it was the first time I had ever after

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I recorded it was the first time I had ever

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heard my voice over like truck speakers, like through bluetooth, right,

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So I was trying to get hyped up, and I

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was like, man, this is pretty fire, Like I love this.

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I love this song. I've never heard my voice like this.

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This is cool.

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So I got home and I was like man, I

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think I'm gonna post this on TikTok. I had like

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seventy thousand followers at the time from the Truck Lifted

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Truck Space, and I called Gavin. I was like, hey, man,

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you care if I post this video because you're in it,

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And he was like, oh, dude, that'd be cool.

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Man post it and see if anybody likes it.

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And he's like, man, I'll make you a deal if

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it gets some views. Tomorrow, let's figure out, like when

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it gets some views, we'll figure out how to record it.

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Because we had never we thought people recorded in their

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houses right away. We thought we didn't know you could

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just go to a studio and pay them and they

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would record your songs. So get up the next morning

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and my phone is like exploding and I turn over

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and it's got like, dude, the video has like a

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million views that like in the morning it did, and

481
00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:23.920
there was like so many comments, and it was cool

482
00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:27.880
because people were like, yo, we didn't know you, saying man,

483
00:26:27.880 --> 00:26:29.960
we thought you did trucks, and I was like, I don't.

484
00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:33.759
I just I'm just here, man, But like I will

485
00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:35.240
if you guys want me to. I'm trying to, like

486
00:26:35.279 --> 00:26:37.480
I literally remember, like I'm trying to figure this out.

487
00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:39.680
I have no idea what's going on, Like I don't know.

488
00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:43.720
And from that point forward, that morning is when I

489
00:26:43.799 --> 00:26:47.359
was like, I'm gonna figure this out. Like I had

490
00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:51.039
been praying a lot about what my purpose was and

491
00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:54.640
praying for God to give me something to chase, and

492
00:26:54.839 --> 00:26:57.039
I really thought that was the truck stuff because it

493
00:26:57.079 --> 00:26:59.160
was going really well and there was brands reaching out

494
00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:01.279
and it was give me some a little bit of money,

495
00:27:01.279 --> 00:27:03.720
and it was just kind of like maybe I do this.

496
00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:06.720
And then all of a sudden, like what I was

497
00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:09.039
praying for just like kind of came to life and

498
00:27:09.079 --> 00:27:13.400
he gave me this massive opportunity of like, yo, here's

499
00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:14.039
some views.

500
00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:17.119
Go chase this. And since then I have not let up.

501
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:20.119
It was like, yo, I'm gonna figure out, like okay,

502
00:27:20.640 --> 00:27:22.599
like to go in a little bit more death man.

503
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:25.039
Like I remember that day.

504
00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:27.599
I looked up, okay, all right, if I got if

505
00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:31.200
I'm getting a million views on this video, how can

506
00:27:31.240 --> 00:27:33.400
I turn that into like streams and how can I

507
00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:35.759
get people to listen to this song? And I was like, okay,

508
00:27:35.759 --> 00:27:38.720
what is streaming? How much is so a million streams?

509
00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:41.279
At that time was seven thousand dollars. I'm like, okay,

510
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:43.240
a million views I could, I could try to get

511
00:27:43.240 --> 00:27:45.559
a million streams. And we went to the studio and51200:27:45.599 --> 00:27:48.720



it was thirty five hundred bucks or three thousand dollars51300:27:48.759 --> 00:27:50.640



to record the song. And I didn't have no money.51400:27:51.200 --> 00:27:53.119



So I remember that day I went back to my51500:27:53.200 --> 00:27:56.880



mom after after waking up quitting my job.51600:27:57.400 --> 00:27:58.480



I went to Gavin's.51700:27:58.920 --> 00:28:02.480



We started trying to figure out what is going on,51800:28:02.599 --> 00:28:04.559



and we found a recording studio that would do it.51900:28:05.039 --> 00:28:08.720



And I went to my mom and I was like, Okay,52000:28:08.839 --> 00:28:10.839



this is gonna be a shock, but I quit my52100:28:10.960 --> 00:28:13.839



job and I'm gonna do music.52200:28:13.920 --> 00:28:15.880



And she was like music, what are you talking about?52300:28:15.920 --> 00:28:17.160



And I'm like, look at this video.52400:28:17.200 --> 00:28:18.759



And I showed her the video and it was like,52500:28:18.960 --> 00:28:21.039



this was a song I wrote, like I wrote this52600:28:21.119 --> 00:28:22.920



with Gavin, like we wrote this last night, and it52700:28:22.960 --> 00:28:26.359



got like almost two million views already, and she was52800:28:26.400 --> 00:28:28.319



like okay, and I was like, and I need fifteen52900:28:28.359 --> 00:28:30.559



hundred bucks to record this song. And at the time,53000:28:30.880 --> 00:28:34.279



we didn't have any money. Like we grew up, you know,53100:28:34.440 --> 00:28:37.519



just like everybody else in the world, and so we53200:28:37.559 --> 00:28:39.759



didn't have any money, but she scraped together fifty hundred53300:28:39.799 --> 00:28:41.799



bucks and I was like, Mom, if you can give53400:28:41.799 --> 00:28:44.559



me fifteen hundred dollars to go record this song and53500:28:44.680 --> 00:28:47.359



I get a million streams, that's seven thousand. I can53600:28:47.400 --> 00:28:50.160



pay you back double if you just help me do53700:28:50.240 --> 00:28:51.079



this because I really.53800:28:50.960 --> 00:28:51.599



Want to chase this.53900:28:51.759 --> 00:28:54.720



And you know, it's crazy to look back now on54000:28:54.799 --> 00:28:58.160



all that because it's like, dang, all this stuff happened,54100:28:58.319 --> 00:29:02.480



and my I'm investing fifteen hundred into me and like,54200:29:03.079 --> 00:29:05.960



just that part of life was so much fun because54300:29:06.559 --> 00:29:09.440



it was like that moment where I was like, I'm54400:29:09.480 --> 00:29:12.039



gonna chase this and there's nobody gonna change my mind.54500:29:12.400 --> 00:29:14.559



I'm not doing anything else. I'm gonna do this.54600:29:14.880 --> 00:29:16.240



Yeah, that's beautiful.54700:29:16.599 --> 00:29:17.880



It was a little different, man.54800:29:18.079 --> 00:29:20.720



It was like wake up one day, Oh my gosh,54900:29:20.799 --> 00:29:23.319



everybody loves my song. I'm gonna try to record it.55000:29:23.359 --> 00:29:25.240



And now dude, here we are. We got a freaking55100:29:25.559 --> 00:29:29.039



another number one. It's like, it's so crazy, man, Yeah,55200:29:29.079 --> 00:29:32.640



it's it's that. That was the craziest ride cause you're55300:29:32.720 --> 00:29:36.720



just like you're off like faith. You're like, I'm quitting55400:29:36.720 --> 00:29:39.000



this job that pays me really good, and I'm gonna55500:29:39.039 --> 00:29:41.119



go chase something that I feel like God's telling me55600:29:41.160 --> 00:29:41.400



to do.55700:29:41.480 --> 00:29:43.759



And man, I'm so glad I listened, you know.55800:29:43.799 --> 00:29:48.319



But yeah, that was the moment that I was like, yo,55900:29:48.759 --> 00:29:50.920



I only started this a month ago, two months ago,56000:29:50.920 --> 00:29:51.559



three months ago.56100:29:52.680 --> 00:29:53.640



This song's going big.56200:29:53.640 --> 00:29:57.119



I'm quitting my job like I'm doing it, like I like,56300:29:57.640 --> 00:30:01.039



if He's telling me to chase anything, this is definitely it,56400:30:01.079 --> 00:30:01.319



you know.56500:30:01.599 --> 00:30:03.440



Yeah, he had a different plan for you, for sure56600:30:03.480 --> 00:30:04.519



than you have for yourself.56700:30:05.039 --> 00:30:05.599



Yeah.56800:30:05.799 --> 00:30:11.519



If you you know, alternate timeline, multiverse, if you hadn't56900:30:11.599 --> 00:30:13.640



stepped out on your faith there, where do you think57000:30:13.680 --> 00:30:14.400



you would be today?57100:30:15.480 --> 00:30:15.599



Uh?57200:30:17.759 --> 00:30:21.240



Only God knows, truly. I have no idea because at57300:30:21.240 --> 00:30:25.039



that time, man, I was I didn't like my job57400:30:25.079 --> 00:30:28.680



that I had because it was so scattered. It was like, oh,57500:30:28.720 --> 00:30:31.119



you would have work like these months, and then you57600:30:31.160 --> 00:30:34.119



wouldn't have worked these months, but then sometimes you would57700:30:34.160 --> 00:30:38.599



have work like it was just too not like it57800:30:38.880 --> 00:30:41.640



just like wasn't enough, I guess. And I didn't really57900:30:41.680 --> 00:30:45.480



like the job anyways. And I so like at the58000:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.519



time before I started music, I was like behind on58100:30:48.640 --> 00:30:54.079



my truck payment, I had no money. My job wasn't58200:30:54.079 --> 00:30:57.160



really existing anymore at the time. So I was kind58300:30:57.160 --> 00:31:00.519



of like, God, I don't know what to do, you know.58400:31:00.599 --> 00:31:02.559



I thought I was chasing the right thing, and I58500:31:02.599 --> 00:31:04.119



thought this is what I was gonna do, But I58600:31:04.160 --> 00:31:06.200



don't know what to do, and I'm giving it to you, Like,58700:31:06.720 --> 00:31:10.720



give me something to chase, give me something to anything,58800:31:11.000 --> 00:31:13.680



you know. So I was I was really in a58900:31:13.720 --> 00:31:18.599



bad spot before music, so like, yeah, God knows where59000:31:18.640 --> 00:31:19.160



i'd be there.59100:31:19.599 --> 00:31:22.039



Yeah, now, a lot of people, you know, you have59200:31:22.279 --> 00:31:27.000



had such a meteoric rise in a relatively short amount59300:31:27.039 --> 00:31:30.240



of time. Do you ever feel that people may underestimate59400:31:30.279 --> 00:31:32.400



that there still was a struggle and all that there59500:31:32.440 --> 00:31:36.240



still was a hustle and you know, hard times that59600:31:36.279 --> 00:31:39.079



you had to go through. Do you ever feel that59700:31:39.119 --> 00:31:41.119



people underestimate that aspect of it.59800:31:42.039 --> 00:31:46.799



M you know, it's as much hard work as this59900:31:47.240 --> 00:31:48.799



is and has been, and.60000:31:50.640 --> 00:31:53.359



Like you said, there is a grind to it. You know.60100:31:53.599 --> 00:31:55.680



I have had to grind every single day for the60200:31:55.759 --> 00:31:57.720



last five years since I had that opportunity.60300:31:58.000 --> 00:32:00.839



I have not slept. I'm kind of working.60400:32:01.839 --> 00:32:05.680



But at the same time, I'm so blessed and I'm60500:32:05.759 --> 00:32:09.880



so fortunate to have a dream to chase have opportunity60600:32:09.920 --> 00:32:14.480



every single day. It's just like, I know that people60700:32:14.480 --> 00:32:17.400



would die and kill to be in my position. And60800:32:17.960 --> 00:32:21.240



that's where I'm like, if you underestimate it, that's okay,60900:32:21.359 --> 00:32:23.319



because I'm so blessed that I'm not.61000:32:23.680 --> 00:32:24.119



I don't.61100:32:24.240 --> 00:32:28.240



I don't care if you think I work harder, don't61200:32:28.480 --> 00:32:33.200



because I'm like, dude, I'm so blessed that I there61300:32:33.279 --> 00:32:36.880



is a grind, but I know what the real grind is.61400:32:37.480 --> 00:32:41.559



The real grind is, you know, digging ditches and setting61500:32:41.599 --> 00:32:45.200



cones out for construction and going and working, you know,61600:32:45.279 --> 00:32:48.720



twenty hours straight and not like that is true, and61700:32:48.839 --> 00:32:50.119



doing it when you hate it.61800:32:50.240 --> 00:32:50.519



Right.61900:32:50.720 --> 00:32:54.000



So I had a job that I hated and I62000:32:54.160 --> 00:32:57.599



was grinding, working my ass off every single day and62100:32:57.680 --> 00:33:00.559



the heat and it just so now every single day62200:33:00.599 --> 00:33:02.079



I wake up, dude, and I get to go into62300:33:02.079 --> 00:33:05.680



an air conditioned room and write songs and get to62400:33:05.720 --> 00:33:06.200



do what I do.62500:33:06.240 --> 00:33:08.359



I'm like, yo, I'm blessed. Man.62600:33:08.480 --> 00:33:11.279



So there is a grind, but I know there's people62700:33:11.279 --> 00:33:13.720



out there that are working ten times harder than me62800:33:13.759 --> 00:33:14.200



every day.62900:33:14.279 --> 00:33:17.200



So it's like, hey, I'm blessed. I'm grateful just to63000:33:17.200 --> 00:33:17.519



be here.63100:33:17.920 --> 00:33:21.920



Yeah, I love that attitude and speaking of writing, you know,63200:33:22.400 --> 00:33:25.000



so I was telling your manager before we started that63300:33:25.599 --> 00:33:30.200



I'm not a giant fan of country and you I saw,63400:33:30.480 --> 00:33:32.799



you know, one of your videos on Insta or TikTok63500:33:32.920 --> 00:33:36.799



or something early on, and I was like, what who63600:33:36.960 --> 00:33:41.160



is this? Like his voice is is incredible? And then63700:33:41.240 --> 00:33:44.680



when Religiously the album came out Religiously the song, I63800:33:44.759 --> 00:33:49.039



was like, oh okay, and I was hooked from then63900:33:49.079 --> 00:33:53.759



on out. You know, I also your voice, your showmanship,64000:33:53.799 --> 00:33:56.440



the whole package. I just you know, fell in love64100:33:56.519 --> 00:33:59.119



with with that and the rawness that you have. You64200:33:59.160 --> 00:34:03.799



know that you're you are humble, and you are acknowledging64300:34:04.000 --> 00:34:07.240



of of where you came from and and you know,64400:34:07.559 --> 00:34:11.679



and I just love all of that. Thanks, of course,64500:34:11.880 --> 00:34:14.400



thank you for sharing, you know, for sharing that and64600:34:14.400 --> 00:34:18.079



and sharing your vulnerability, which was is my question is,64700:34:18.440 --> 00:34:21.199



you know, as you've been writing, was there ever a64800:34:21.320 --> 00:34:24.360



time you know, you you obviously talk about real life64900:34:24.400 --> 00:34:28.239



and heartbreak and all. Is there ever something so far65000:34:28.480 --> 00:34:31.440



that you've been like that's a little too vulnerable for me,65100:34:32.079 --> 00:34:36.239



you know, or that we've ended up hurting hearing, or65200:34:36.239 --> 00:34:39.119



that we've ended up not hearing, like has there been65300:34:39.159 --> 00:34:43.039



that for you in this process, No, and that.65400:34:43.239 --> 00:34:49.039



You know it's so it's music has always been vulnerability.65500:34:49.159 --> 00:34:52.559



That's what music is to me, like, and that's what65600:34:52.679 --> 00:34:56.239



it's so fun is I've always been such a deep person,65700:34:56.360 --> 00:34:59.559



but nobody ever wants to talk deep. So when I65800:34:59.599 --> 00:35:02.400



got into music and everybody always wants to talk so65900:35:02.519 --> 00:35:05.400



deep about things and write all these really vulnerable things,66000:35:05.440 --> 00:35:08.159



that's like, I just I'm such an open book that66100:35:08.239 --> 00:35:10.960



I love it. Like I'm the quickest person to just66200:35:11.039 --> 00:35:13.119



meet you and tell you exactly what I got going66300:35:13.119 --> 00:35:17.880



on in life, like and that's where it's just I66400:35:17.960 --> 00:35:20.360



get it. Some artists and some writers are like, oh,66500:35:20.440 --> 00:35:22.119



I don't know if I could tell people that, but66600:35:22.159 --> 00:35:24.920



I'm like getting it off my chest has always been66700:35:24.920 --> 00:35:27.920



the best for me. So that's how it started. When66800:35:27.920 --> 00:35:30.719



I started writing music, was I was just I say66900:35:30.760 --> 00:35:32.079



it in a lot A lot of a lot of67000:35:32.079 --> 00:35:38.480



the shows vulnerability and like being vulnerable and like therapeutic67100:35:38.559 --> 00:35:42.039



is writing to me, Like when I was sitting there67200:35:42.079 --> 00:35:44.360



and like trying to write that my first song, I'll67300:35:44.360 --> 00:35:46.599



never forget it. I just started writing from what I67400:35:46.639 --> 00:35:50.239



had been through, things that had happened. That was really67500:35:50.320 --> 00:35:54.159



recent back then, and that's what I've always done is67600:35:54.239 --> 00:35:57.639



just try to be like so open and treat it67700:35:57.719 --> 00:35:58.280



like therapy.67800:35:58.639 --> 00:35:58.920



Guys.67900:35:59.000 --> 00:36:03.039



Then I write this song and I'm it's like, man,68000:36:03.679 --> 00:36:07.320



I get paid to talk about my problems in a68100:36:07.440 --> 00:36:10.039



song and write about my problems, and then it gets68200:36:10.039 --> 00:36:12.320



to go and help so many other people that are68300:36:12.360 --> 00:36:13.400



going through the same thing.68400:36:14.039 --> 00:36:16.079



So I think it goes back to like, man, I'm just.68500:36:17.679 --> 00:36:20.440



Like, it's like God's plan for me, man, because I68600:36:20.519 --> 00:36:24.920



love I love talking about my problems and people love68700:36:24.960 --> 00:36:27.079



hearing about it because it feels so relatable, I guess68800:36:27.199 --> 00:36:30.800



or they can just like they heal from it. So nah, man,68900:36:30.960 --> 00:36:33.760



I kind of put everything out there. And I really69000:36:33.840 --> 00:36:37.400



think that's that was my motto in the beginning on69100:36:37.519 --> 00:36:40.960



social media writing songs. Everything was like be all out there,69200:36:41.360 --> 00:36:44.440



be exactly who you are, and never hold anything back69300:36:44.480 --> 00:36:47.079



because that was an opportunity if you hold it back,69400:36:47.119 --> 00:36:50.360



that was an opportunity for somebody to relate to what69500:36:50.400 --> 00:36:52.280



you're going through, what you've been through. And it's like,69600:36:53.360 --> 00:36:57.199



that's just the motto for me. So it's been awesome69700:36:57.280 --> 00:36:59.679



being so vulnerable and so being able to just throw69800:36:59.679 --> 00:37:03.360



everything out there. Because like, yeah, it's good life, right,69900:37:03.400 --> 00:37:05.239



It's like absolutely therapy.70000:37:05.519 --> 00:37:08.880



And I imagine it's freeing, right, like because then you70100:37:08.880 --> 00:37:12.599



don't have to worry about you know, I can't expose this,70200:37:12.920 --> 00:37:14.119



You've already exposed it all.70300:37:14.559 --> 00:37:16.559



Yeah, oh yeah, I'm out there. Man.70400:37:17.400 --> 00:37:21.159



Oh yeah, what has been you know, you've been under70500:37:21.239 --> 00:37:24.519



this microscope obviously for the last four five years. What70600:37:24.639 --> 00:37:28.960



has been the hardest aspect for you to adjust to?70700:37:29.480 --> 00:37:32.079



You know, because you went from one life to a70800:37:32.159 --> 00:37:34.679



whole different life.70900:37:34.840 --> 00:37:40.920



Man, I'm still the same me that started. I'm still71000:37:40.960 --> 00:37:45.559



the same twenty year old. But I would say navigate71100:37:45.639 --> 00:37:47.159



I had. I would say I just had to like71200:37:47.199 --> 00:37:50.440



grow up quicker and like I call it getting my71300:37:50.480 --> 00:37:54.199



shit together quicker to where I just I feel like71400:37:54.599 --> 00:37:58.039



because I was so like, because there is a lot71500:37:58.079 --> 00:38:02.199



of people watching me, I guess I was like, hey, man,71600:38:02.480 --> 00:38:05.199



you're gonna have to have the self awareness to not71700:38:05.960 --> 00:38:09.679



go out and make the mistakes that others have. You're71800:38:09.679 --> 00:38:11.519



gonna have to really learn from that before you do them.71900:38:11.519 --> 00:38:15.360



And I've made my fair share of mistakes. But as72000:38:15.400 --> 00:38:19.719



far as like touring and girls touring and girls do72100:38:19.840 --> 00:38:22.239



not mix, I can't you know that just gets you72200:38:22.280 --> 00:38:24.000



in trouble. I had to like really learn that, and72300:38:24.440 --> 00:38:27.599



you know, any any other I feel like any other72400:38:28.960 --> 00:38:31.360



man twenty year old.72500:38:31.159 --> 00:38:33.159



That you put on a tour with Morgan Wallen.72600:38:34.480 --> 00:38:37.360



It was crazy out there, you know, and like, you know,72700:38:37.519 --> 00:38:40.039



so I would say, like that aspect of it, you know,72800:38:40.119 --> 00:38:44.039



learning like, hey, man, you can't, like don't the temptation72900:38:44.320 --> 00:38:47.719



was crazy. So like it was like the temptation of73000:38:47.840 --> 00:38:50.440



drinking too much, the temptation of going out with girls,73100:38:50.440 --> 00:38:51.960



the temptation of just.73200:38:52.199 --> 00:38:54.639



Not being who I really am.73300:38:55.280 --> 00:38:58.639



That was like that was like a weird thing to73400:38:58.719 --> 00:39:01.320



go through and like, Okay, I'm gonna have to figure73500:39:01.320 --> 00:39:04.000



out how to like act like I've already made the73600:39:04.039 --> 00:39:08.239



mistake and I've learned, like but I haven't. But so yeah,73700:39:08.280 --> 00:39:11.679



I would say that was like, man, I went from73800:39:11.679 --> 00:39:14.159



nobody watching me and I was still a great person,73900:39:14.199 --> 00:39:16.159



but I was just like any other sixteen year old.74000:39:16.159 --> 00:39:18.599



I was out there drinking beer and hooking girls and74100:39:19.079 --> 00:39:22.400



you know, same thing, just like anybody else. But I74200:39:22.400 --> 00:39:25.519



guess not everybody else, but you know where I come from,74300:39:25.559 --> 00:39:29.760



that's the thing I guess. So growing up really quick,74400:39:29.920 --> 00:39:33.199



that was like, Okay, you had your fun, dude, but74500:39:33.239 --> 00:39:34.920



now you have an opportunity and you can't.74600:39:34.760 --> 00:39:37.239



Mess it up and good luck.74700:39:37.639 --> 00:39:41.840



Yeah, soh yeah, growing up figuring it out really quick.74800:39:42.000 --> 00:39:44.239



We're gonna take a quick break to pay the bills74900:39:44.280 --> 00:39:48.000



and when we come back more with Bailey Zimmerman everything75000:39:48.039 --> 00:39:56.599



you want to know see in sixty all right, thanks75100:39:56.599 --> 00:40:02.639



for supporting our sponsors and the show. Let's go. Let's go. Well,75200:40:02.679 --> 00:40:04.760



And you know, one thing that I've learned from talking75300:40:04.800 --> 00:40:07.480



to so many people like yourself at a high level75400:40:07.679 --> 00:40:12.400



is you really have to know who you are because75500:40:12.440 --> 00:40:15.760



the temptation is so strong in so many different directions75600:40:15.760 --> 00:40:18.199



and you have access to pretty much anything you want75700:40:18.480 --> 00:40:22.199



at any time, that if you're not truly in tune75800:40:22.239 --> 00:40:25.159



with who you are, you can get lost really quick,75900:40:25.400 --> 00:40:25.599



you know.76000:40:25.840 --> 00:40:28.400



Oh yeah, yeah, dude. And I would even say, I'm76100:40:28.679 --> 00:40:31.119



I'm definitely not perfect. I got lost along the way76200:40:31.159 --> 00:40:33.199



the last couple of years. I've definitely had some like76300:40:33.840 --> 00:40:35.119



ups and downs and stuff.76400:40:35.559 --> 00:40:38.400



That's life. You're gonna have that you're gonna learn, gonna grow.76500:40:39.920 --> 00:40:43.599



But exactly what you just said is like man being76600:40:43.679 --> 00:40:46.199



able to drink so much and have so much fun76700:40:46.239 --> 00:40:48.639



and nobody really cares and it's kind of part of76800:40:48.639 --> 00:40:51.840



the job. Everybody's just like having so much fun and76900:40:51.880 --> 00:40:55.119



that can get carried away really quick. And I had77000:40:55.119 --> 00:40:58.559



to learn that, like, hey, whoa, you got to chill out, man,77100:40:58.599 --> 00:41:02.599



you can't be doing this with that. So I mean, definitely,77200:41:03.719 --> 00:41:05.400



you got to know who you are for sure. And77300:41:05.440 --> 00:41:08.400



that's where I think I'm at now, is like I'm77400:41:08.400 --> 00:41:13.639



totally grounded again and I'm like, Okay, I'm ready.77500:41:13.800 --> 00:41:15.880



I'm ready to write more songs. I'm ready.77600:41:15.880 --> 00:41:18.559



I've actually experienced so much the last two or three years,77700:41:18.960 --> 00:41:20.360



you know, I just put out this album, but I'm77800:41:20.400 --> 00:41:22.880



ready to write songs again. And I'm like, I'm back77900:41:22.920 --> 00:41:25.000



to who I truly, truly am. I don't drink that78000:41:25.079 --> 00:41:28.719



much anymore. I have really got off just like partying78100:41:28.760 --> 00:41:33.280



in general. I'm super focused on like family and making78200:41:33.320 --> 00:41:35.320



sure that my people are taking care of just kind78300:41:35.360 --> 00:41:38.000



of like the things you should be, yeah, really focused on.78400:41:38.199 --> 00:41:41.880



I feel like I'm back there, and yeah, but they're78500:41:41.920 --> 00:41:43.559



for you know, it got a little wonky for a78600:41:43.599 --> 00:41:46.000



little while. We got a little roller coastry, but we78700:41:46.239 --> 00:41:48.440



made it. But yeah, it's crazy.78800:41:48.199 --> 00:41:51.800



And you were you know, if you're talking about the78900:41:52.559 --> 00:41:54.599



an incident that I think you're talking about. You were79000:41:54.679 --> 00:41:57.519



very open about that as well, you know, if you're79100:41:57.559 --> 00:42:02.320



talking about, you know, the incident with the old on exactly,79200:42:02.400 --> 00:42:06.000



you came out and did a video and was like, hey,79300:42:07.199 --> 00:42:07.760



messed up.79400:42:08.159 --> 00:42:08.920



Sorry about that.79500:42:09.480 --> 00:42:11.679



You know, I'm gonna do better next time. A lot79600:42:11.719 --> 00:42:13.960



of people would be terrified to do that, you know.79700:42:14.800 --> 00:42:16.280



Yeah, And I think that goes back to what we79800:42:16.280 --> 00:42:18.320



were talking about earlier, is just like the vulnerability of79900:42:18.440 --> 00:42:22.559



like I am, I am totally okay with everybody watching80000:42:22.599 --> 00:42:23.960



me all the time rock.80100:42:24.239 --> 00:42:28.039



I love it, but also understand I'm still.80200:42:27.760 --> 00:42:30.239



A human, Yeah, and I'm definitely gonna mess up it80300:42:30.320 --> 00:42:31.880



from time to time on certain things.80400:42:32.800 --> 00:42:33.000



You know.80500:42:33.519 --> 00:42:37.199



I'm twenty five, right, so I'm like, yeah, and that's80600:42:37.239 --> 00:42:40.280



where you know when I when I'm dude, it was bad.80700:42:40.320 --> 00:42:40.920



It was so bad.80800:42:41.360 --> 00:42:43.360



And now I can laugh about it because it's been80900:42:43.480 --> 00:42:47.519



long enough. But man, at you know, I the reason81000:42:47.559 --> 00:42:49.760



I made the video too in the first place was81100:42:50.360 --> 00:42:52.679



I really just felt bad for the fans that support81200:42:52.760 --> 00:42:55.840



me and for the people that know that's like not81300:42:55.920 --> 00:42:57.159



who I am, right.81400:42:57.639 --> 00:42:58.559



I just felt so bad.81500:42:58.599 --> 00:43:01.199



I was like, honestly, I'm not apologizing to get anybody81600:43:01.239 --> 00:43:03.320



that's hating on it. I'm kind of just apologizing to81700:43:03.480 --> 00:43:05.559



like all these people that have supported me and I81800:43:05.639 --> 00:43:08.440



let down, because that's that's over the last five years,81900:43:08.440 --> 00:43:11.320



I feel like I've built a family across the world, man,82000:43:11.480 --> 00:43:14.320



just everywhere I know all these people and they've just82100:43:14.320 --> 00:43:16.920



supported me. And when you make a mistake like that82200:43:16.920 --> 00:43:20.079



that goes viral like that, you just like, yep, I82300:43:20.119 --> 00:43:22.679



got a man up. I gotta take accountability for my82400:43:22.760 --> 00:43:26.239



actions and nobody can be mad at the guy that's like, yeah,82500:43:26.280 --> 00:43:29.840



I messed up, like I messed up, and I'm gonna82600:43:29.880 --> 00:43:32.320



do better next time for sure. And that's also a82700:43:32.360 --> 00:43:34.440



thing too, is like my dad always telling me like, hey,82800:43:34.760 --> 00:43:37.039



you can apologize, but if you do it again, that82900:43:37.119 --> 00:43:39.760



apology doesn't matter at all because you didn't learn anything.83000:43:40.320 --> 00:43:43.320



So that's where I'm at now, is like since then, man,83100:43:43.360 --> 00:43:47.559



I've really been just like grinding, Like Okay, I'm like83200:43:47.559 --> 00:43:50.760



I said, I'm not drinking barely any that much anymore,83300:43:51.719 --> 00:43:55.079



especially not on like show days or whatever we've got going.83400:43:55.519 --> 00:43:59.320



But yeah, just like taking accountability and being like I83500:43:59.360 --> 00:44:01.519



will be next better next time, because there's not going83600:44:01.599 --> 00:44:03.760



to be this next time, Like, I'm not going to83700:44:03.840 --> 00:44:06.719



ever let this happen again because I value my career83800:44:06.760 --> 00:44:10.039



too much and I value the love of everybody's that's83900:44:10.039 --> 00:44:18.519



helped me build this career too much where it's like, okay, yeah.84000:44:16.039 --> 00:44:18.039



And like you said, we all make mistakes. It's all84100:44:18.039 --> 00:44:20.639



about accountability, and you did that, you know, and I84200:44:20.679 --> 00:44:24.199



think I think fans respected and appreciated.84300:44:23.519 --> 00:44:27.159



That, so hopefully right, I'm like, hey, that's all.84400:44:27.000 --> 00:44:30.000



I got, absolutely, and that's all you can do. So84500:44:30.280 --> 00:44:32.199



one of the things that I love about you is84600:44:32.239 --> 00:44:36.880



that you have done all these different collabs, one of which,84700:44:37.159 --> 00:44:40.719



you know, just hit number four on the Billboard Hot84800:44:40.719 --> 00:44:43.559



one hundred. You know, You've done stuff with Diplow, who84900:44:43.599 --> 00:44:48.079



I love, Jonas brother, Like, why has that been important85000:44:48.360 --> 00:44:48.800



to you?85100:44:49.719 --> 00:44:50.119



Oh?85200:44:50.239 --> 00:44:53.239



Man, I would I would say that it's not like85300:44:53.440 --> 00:44:57.440



always been like important, I guess to me. But at85400:44:57.480 --> 00:45:01.760



first I didn't do any collabs at all, and I85500:45:01.920 --> 00:45:04.920



kind of I there was one I did that I85600:45:05.039 --> 00:45:07.360



just I didn't really know the people at all I85700:45:07.360 --> 00:45:10.519



did it with, and it kind of like was just85800:45:10.559 --> 00:45:12.920



a weird thing and it was really cool and it85900:45:12.960 --> 00:45:16.039



was like, yeah, this is awesome, But I kind of86000:45:16.119 --> 00:45:18.679



realized I want to know who I'm collabing with, and86100:45:18.760 --> 00:45:20.199



like I want to know and that's what kind of86200:45:20.239 --> 00:45:23.840



sent me on like collabs. I was like, man, who86300:45:23.840 --> 00:45:26.159



could I reach out to? That's just like crazy, like86400:45:26.440 --> 00:45:26.960



who could I.86500:45:26.880 --> 00:45:28.920



Reach out to? And like see if they you know?86600:45:29.440 --> 00:45:34.079



And I think they just kind of randomly became a86700:45:34.119 --> 00:45:37.760



part of my music. Like I would say I didn't.86800:45:37.880 --> 00:45:40.079



I wasn't like I want a lot of collabs on86900:45:40.079 --> 00:45:42.119



this record. I want to do all this stuff. It87000:45:42.159 --> 00:45:45.800



was kind of like like the big ex collab. He87100:45:46.000 --> 00:45:47.800



just I was sitting in the same spot I'm sitting87200:45:47.880 --> 00:45:50.840



right now and he just texted me randomly and it87300:45:50.880 --> 00:45:52.920



was the song and he was like, hey, man, do87400:45:53.000 --> 00:45:53.639



you like this song?87500:45:53.679 --> 00:45:56.119



And I'm like, bro, I like this song.87600:45:56.239 --> 00:46:01.320



Dude's freaking fast, this sick so same thing with like87700:46:01.480 --> 00:46:03.519



Luke Combs, I remember.87800:46:03.719 --> 00:46:07.440



Which by the way, congratulations it is number one right now.87900:46:07.639 --> 00:46:08.760



Thanks so much dude.88000:46:08.880 --> 00:46:09.800



Thanks.88100:46:09.840 --> 00:46:13.719



Oh it's crazy even talking about this because I posted88200:46:13.719 --> 00:46:17.639



it on social media. But I took a selfie with88300:46:17.719 --> 00:46:21.559



Luke in October of twenty twenty four, and it's not88400:46:21.599 --> 00:46:23.519



even October twenty twenty five and we have.88500:46:24.039 --> 00:46:26.920



The number one song on radio. It's so crazy man.88600:46:26.960 --> 00:46:28.199



And same thing.88700:46:28.719 --> 00:46:33.360



I got this demo through text and it was backup88800:46:33.360 --> 00:46:40.679



plan acoustic from these Tucker Bether, Jimmy Bell and I.88900:46:40.599 --> 00:46:43.639



Think it's John Sherwood. I think it's Sherwood. I'm pretty sure.89000:46:44.320 --> 00:46:47.360



Anyways, they sent me a text Tucker Beller did and89100:46:47.400 --> 00:46:48.920



he was like, hey man, do you like this song?89200:46:49.119 --> 00:46:51.440



And I was like, dude, I freaking loved this song.89300:46:51.920 --> 00:46:52.880



And I remember listening.89400:46:53.239 --> 00:46:55.360



My producer Austin was there and he was like, hey man,89500:46:56.280 --> 00:46:57.960



this song's sick, and I'm like, dude, you know who89600:46:57.960 --> 00:47:02.079



would crush this? Luke Combs, Like truly, like this isn't like,89700:47:02.119 --> 00:47:03.320



oh I want to do a song with Luke comb.89800:47:03.360 --> 00:47:06.039



This is like Luke would crush this song. And he89900:47:06.119 --> 00:47:08.000



was like yeah, but we don't know Luke Combs. And90000:47:08.039 --> 00:47:10.559



I'm like, yeah, you're right, we don't, so so that90100:47:10.679 --> 00:47:12.559



I just like kind of you know whatever. I'm like, okay,90200:47:12.639 --> 00:47:15.559



I'm definitely putting that on my album. And then he90300:47:15.639 --> 00:47:18.800



invited me to do concert for Carolina and then we90400:47:18.880 --> 00:47:20.960



became like we just kind of started cutting up that90500:47:21.039 --> 00:47:24.119



day and it was just like, man, like I really90600:47:24.199 --> 00:47:26.360



like this dude, it seems like we're like really getting along.90700:47:26.440 --> 00:47:28.280



And at the end of the night he gave me90800:47:28.320 --> 00:47:32.280



his phone number and I was like, man, is this90900:47:32.480 --> 00:47:34.679



like is this like God telling me I should just91000:47:34.719 --> 00:47:35.920



shoot my shot right now?91100:47:35.960 --> 00:47:36.400



Like yeah.91200:47:36.840 --> 00:47:40.000



So I waited a little while because I was nervous.91300:47:40.000 --> 00:47:42.000



I'd wake up and I'd be like, oh, I don't know,91400:47:42.039 --> 00:47:44.920



I don't know. But then finally one morning I sent91500:47:44.960 --> 00:47:47.280



the text and I was like, basically like, dude, I've91600:47:47.320 --> 00:47:50.079



had this song forever. I don't know what you're doing,91700:47:50.119 --> 00:47:51.880



but man, I think you would crush it. I think91800:47:51.880 --> 00:47:54.639



the song smash. And he texted me back a month91900:47:54.719 --> 00:47:59.440



later and he was like, dude, I'm in let's do92000:47:59.519 --> 00:48:02.840



this song and then fast forwards. Now it's number one92100:48:02.840 --> 00:48:06.159



on country radio, so it's like, wow, it kind of92200:48:06.320 --> 00:48:08.760



just oh dude, it's it's literally mind blowing. I have92300:48:08.760 --> 00:48:11.280



no idea what's going on. I always just saying I92400:48:11.360 --> 00:48:14.400



just work here. I'm like, dude, I have no idea,92500:48:14.440 --> 00:48:15.360



what's happening right now?92600:48:15.559 --> 00:48:16.159



Same thing, dode.92700:48:16.199 --> 00:48:19.199



I got a song with the kid Larroy. Yeah, right,92800:48:19.960 --> 00:48:21.079



how does that even happen?92900:48:21.159 --> 00:48:21.320



Man?93000:48:21.480 --> 00:48:26.719



Like I've I've listened to kids since man almost since93100:48:26.719 --> 00:48:29.159



he started like singing and stuff when he was like93200:48:29.880 --> 00:48:33.320



fourteen fifteen years old. Like I remember watching him and93300:48:33.360 --> 00:48:35.840



being like, man, I love this kid. And then he93400:48:35.920 --> 00:48:37.599



went and went on to do like a song with93500:48:37.800 --> 00:48:39.639



Justin that Stay, you know Stay, and he had a93600:48:39.719 --> 00:48:42.719



massive hits himself, and I was just like already just93700:48:42.760 --> 00:48:47.920



a massive fan. And then his agent, Mike g hit93800:48:47.960 --> 00:48:50.119



me up and was like, hey, do you want to93900:48:50.159 --> 00:48:53.199



go to dinner with kid Larroy? And I'm like, oh94000:48:53.280 --> 00:48:56.440



my god, freaking heck, yeah I do. I'll go.94100:48:56.599 --> 00:48:57.159



Yeah.94200:48:57.280 --> 00:48:59.800



So then when he when we got to dinner, it94300:48:59.880 --> 00:49:01.840



was it's just the same thing. We just started cutting94400:49:01.920 --> 00:49:04.320



up and realized like man, we're we're one and the94500:49:04.360 --> 00:49:07.039



same here, like we were what almost the same person?94600:49:07.079 --> 00:49:07.719



This is crazy.94700:49:08.239 --> 00:49:11.280



And he actually asked me, he said, hey, man, do94800:49:11.360 --> 00:49:13.840



you wanna do you want to make music sometime? Like94900:49:13.920 --> 00:49:16.400



I really like just love your vibe and you know,95000:49:16.480 --> 00:49:18.400



we've having so much fun tonight, like we should make95100:49:18.480 --> 00:49:22.599



music sometimes, and I'm like yeah. So that night after dinner,95200:49:22.639 --> 00:49:24.199



he had a show and then he was like, man,95300:49:24.679 --> 00:49:27.239



you got to take me on Broadway and you got95400:49:27.239 --> 00:49:27.840



to take me out.95500:49:27.880 --> 00:49:29.000



And I was like, all right, let's go.95600:49:29.079 --> 00:49:30.639



So we ended up having a night, but on the95700:49:30.679 --> 00:49:33.599



way to the too, we actually went to Morgan's. On95800:49:33.639 --> 00:49:38.400



the way to Morgan's, he was like, man, you got95900:49:38.400 --> 00:49:40.480



any songs, And I'm like, dude, I actually wanted to96000:49:40.480 --> 00:49:42.920



play this earlier. It's it's a song that I feel96100:49:42.960 --> 00:49:44.920



like is sonically really close.96200:49:44.639 --> 00:49:45.960



To what me and you could do.96300:49:46.559 --> 00:49:49.199



It's going on my album, but check this vibe out,96400:49:49.239 --> 00:49:50.920



just check the vibe. It's like I'm like, maybe not96500:49:50.960 --> 00:49:53.760



the song, but what about the vibe. And after the96600:49:53.800 --> 00:49:57.920



song was done, it was lost. He was like, dude,96700:49:58.440 --> 00:50:03.079



I love just that song, like that is like a smash. Dude,96800:50:03.119 --> 00:50:06.320



like that's a that's a really big song. I'm like, dude, thanks,96900:50:06.360 --> 00:50:08.519



And he kept saying that all night. He's like, dude,97000:50:08.719 --> 00:50:11.920



play that song. Give Bailey Ox play that song. And97100:50:12.320 --> 00:50:14.760



so finally I just was like, dude, you just want97200:50:14.760 --> 00:50:16.159



to get on this thing, Like you just want to97300:50:16.159 --> 00:50:18.159



get on the song. And he was like, bro, I'd97400:50:18.159 --> 00:50:19.840



be honored to get on the song. So it's kind97500:50:19.880 --> 00:50:22.360



of like staying with Diplo. Diplo just showed up at97600:50:22.360 --> 00:50:23.079



my house one day.97700:50:24.400 --> 00:50:24.840



He just like.97800:50:26.840 --> 00:50:28.880



No, literally, he was like, hey, I'm on my way97900:50:28.880 --> 00:50:30.800



and I'm like, holy crap, Diplo's on the way.98000:50:30.639 --> 00:50:31.800



To the house. This is crazy.98100:50:32.159 --> 00:50:34.400



And uh he just sat right here in the same98200:50:34.519 --> 00:50:36.360



same position as we are sitting right now, and he98300:50:36.440 --> 00:50:39.000



played me ashes and he was like, dude, I got98400:50:39.000 --> 00:50:44.039



this song listen boom and I was like, dude, ah,98500:50:44.199 --> 00:50:46.519



I love this, I love I love I love like98600:50:46.840 --> 00:50:48.840



the story of it's pretty cool. It's not something I98700:50:49.000 --> 00:50:51.639



usually talk about, but I like that it's different. The98800:50:52.599 --> 00:50:55.800



production was just different. I was like, this is so cool.98900:50:55.800 --> 00:50:59.679



And so yeah, all these new collabs, they just happened99000:50:59.800 --> 00:51:01.760



like kind of buy coincidence.99100:51:01.800 --> 00:51:02.000



Man.99200:51:02.039 --> 00:51:03.360



I always that's what I've been saying.99300:51:03.400 --> 00:51:05.440



I'm like, dude, God is just taking care of me, man,99400:51:05.440 --> 00:51:08.000



because I've been meeting so many people that I'm so99500:51:08.159 --> 00:51:10.320



inspired by and have looked up to for a long time,99600:51:10.400 --> 00:51:12.440



and the fact that they want to do music with99700:51:12.519 --> 00:51:15.119



me is like, dude, crazy.99800:51:15.360 --> 00:51:18.039



And it's a testament to your talent and you as99900:51:18.079 --> 00:51:20.679



a person. You know, I really truly believe that I100000:51:20.679 --> 00:51:23.079



would love you just selfishly. I would love to see100100:51:23.119 --> 00:51:25.679



you do like a full on just your voice on,100200:51:25.760 --> 00:51:28.239



like a dance song. I think will be so cool,100300:51:28.280 --> 00:51:31.800



so left field. But I just I just just in100400:51:31.840 --> 00:51:32.920



your head for the future.100500:51:33.119 --> 00:51:36.199



Hey, I am not opposed to anything, you know. That's100600:51:36.239 --> 00:51:38.840



what I've said since I started music, was like, I100700:51:38.880 --> 00:51:42.800



grew up in country. I'm rooted in country. I like,100800:51:42.960 --> 00:51:46.159



you know, I lived that life. But in the world,100900:51:46.559 --> 00:51:48.239



I don't care what it is. If I love it,101000:51:48.360 --> 00:51:52.679



I'm doing it. So I'm down there. Dz X dance101100:51:53.199 --> 00:51:53.599



there you go.101200:51:53.920 --> 00:51:56.960



Imagine I pop out with some like crazy dance and stuff.101300:51:57.679 --> 00:51:58.719



That'd be so dope.101400:51:59.000 --> 00:51:59.719



I'm mad at it.101500:52:00.000 --> 00:52:00.840



I'm rooting for it.101600:52:00.960 --> 00:52:02.519



I'm calling you though, I'm calling you.101700:52:03.320 --> 00:52:06.639



I'll be hey, I'm there for you, all right, for101800:52:06.639 --> 00:52:09.119



for for the album. You know, we've talked a lot101900:52:09.159 --> 00:52:12.440



about the collabse and the single, how well it's done.102000:52:12.519 --> 00:52:16.599



You're you're on the road right now and you are102100:52:16.679 --> 00:52:19.360



such a showman. Where did that come from? Dude?102200:52:19.400 --> 00:52:23.360



Thanks? I like, God, give it. I have no idea.102300:52:23.719 --> 00:52:28.079



I I there's all these little things that people have said.102400:52:28.079 --> 00:52:31.320



They're like, you run around so much like you're not.102500:52:31.400 --> 00:52:33.920



You don't get nervous. I'm like, no, I get nervous standing.102600:52:34.960 --> 00:52:37.039



So if I'm standing in a mic, I'm nervous.102700:52:37.960 --> 00:52:39.920



But if I'm running around, I can't be that nervous102800:52:39.920 --> 00:52:42.119



because my energy can't keep up, I guess, or the102900:52:42.119 --> 00:52:44.639



nervousness can't keep up with like the energy. I don't know,103000:52:45.320 --> 00:52:52.280



but I would say like ADHD helps me, So dude,103100:52:52.400 --> 00:52:58.199



I would say ADHD. And then also Morgan Wallen because103200:52:58.960 --> 00:53:02.920



getting getting to be on tour with Morgan so at first, okay,103300:53:03.000 --> 00:53:07.199



so at first, when I started playing, it was like103400:53:07.760 --> 00:53:11.000



I had watched YouTube videos of like my favorite band,103500:53:11.000 --> 00:53:16.760



Tesla and Nickelback and all these just big artists watching103600:53:16.800 --> 00:53:18.679



what they do and how they do it, and I103700:53:18.719 --> 00:53:21.519



was like, okay, like okay, this is okay, this is103800:53:21.599 --> 00:53:24.199



live music. Okay, I gotta like this is what I do.103900:53:24.280 --> 00:53:28.280



And then I would say I kind of found my groove,104000:53:29.199 --> 00:53:31.639



you know, in the two o'clock spot on a festival, right,104100:53:31.800 --> 00:53:34.719



like get started finding my groove and finding what I104200:53:34.760 --> 00:53:37.199



wanted to do. And then being on tour with Morgan104300:53:37.320 --> 00:53:40.000



really opened my eyes to like I want to do that,104400:53:40.159 --> 00:53:42.599



and I want to do that like that's sick and104500:53:42.719 --> 00:53:44.280



that blow up thing is sick.104600:53:44.400 --> 00:53:46.280



Like so I just learned a lot.104700:53:46.360 --> 00:53:48.320



Being on tour with him for two years was just104800:53:48.360 --> 00:53:53.039



like whoa very I learned a lot. So then when104900:53:53.039 --> 00:53:55.039



I went to go do my tour, it was kind105000:53:55.039 --> 00:53:57.360



of like, Okay, I want to do that, but I105100:53:57.400 --> 00:53:58.679



want to do it my way, and I want to105200:53:58.679 --> 00:54:00.239



do this, but I want to do it like this105300:54:00.360 --> 00:54:04.280



instead of that. And like what I love, dude, creating105400:54:04.280 --> 00:54:07.679



my live show, finding moments to make it more awesome105500:54:07.679 --> 00:54:11.039



and impactful and just the that is so fun to me.105600:54:11.239 --> 00:54:15.440



I have a blast creating that. So I would say105700:54:15.480 --> 00:54:17.519



I'm like not to where I want to be, but like,105800:54:17.800 --> 00:54:20.519



it's been so much fun learning like trying new dance105900:54:20.559 --> 00:54:23.519



moves and trying what works and what doesn't. And yeah,106000:54:23.559 --> 00:54:26.360



so it's been fun. But God given, dude, I have106100:54:26.360 --> 00:54:28.039



no idea. I don't know how I'm here.106200:54:30.880 --> 00:54:34.800



I I you know, I am bummed because I broke106300:54:34.840 --> 00:54:38.960



my kneecap in February, so and I couldn't even get crush. Yeah,106400:54:39.159 --> 00:54:41.480



I was trying to. I'm five seven and I was106500:54:41.480 --> 00:54:43.920



wearing crocs and my best friend is six' four who106600:54:44.119 --> 00:54:46.480



has been a basketball player all of his. LIFE i was,106700:54:46.519 --> 00:54:47.800



like you THINK i could dunk and he was, like,106800:54:47.840 --> 00:54:51.199



no absolutely. Not and then we had his son's fifth106900:54:51.239 --> 00:54:53.920



birthday party at a like a sports complex and there107000:54:53.920 --> 00:54:55.320



was an indoor court AND i was, like remember you107100:54:55.320 --> 00:54:57.320



said a can? Dunk he was like, yeah And i'm,107200:54:57.320 --> 00:55:00.800



like watch this. Man when, DIDN'T i was like feet107300:55:00.840 --> 00:55:03.239



away from the hoop ten foot hoop went right down107400:55:03.280 --> 00:55:06.440



on my kneecap on the. Hardwood couldn't drive for three.107500:55:06.480 --> 00:55:10.880



Months it's been a. Mess BUT i missed training that107600:55:11.079 --> 00:55:13.440



WILD i should, say LIKE i was like saving nuns107700:55:13.480 --> 00:55:17.559



from a tiger attack or. Something but, yeah but, uh107800:55:17.960 --> 00:55:21.599



BUT i missed your, show you, know BECAUSE i couldn't107900:55:21.599 --> 00:55:24.360



go to any. Shows SO i need to know as108000:55:24.400 --> 00:55:27.519



you're this kind of LEG i Hopefully leg one is108100:55:27.599 --> 00:55:29.440



kind of winding. Down is there going to be A108200:55:29.519 --> 00:55:30.960



leg two to support the?108300:55:31.000 --> 00:55:35.440



ALBUM i THINK i think we're gonna have, hopefully we're108400:55:35.480 --> 00:55:39.079



working on it right. Now But i'm hoping to have another.108500:55:39.119 --> 00:55:43.679



Tour so, honestly, Bro i'm never quitting. Touring, Yeah i'm never.108600:55:43.760 --> 00:55:45.840



Quitting this is like ALL i want to. DO i108700:55:45.880 --> 00:55:48.760



just love touring so. Much so of course there's gonna108800:55:48.800 --> 00:55:52.920



be another tour next, year and probably the year after108900:55:52.960 --> 00:55:54.840



that and the year after, That god, willing of.109000:55:54.880 --> 00:55:57.920



Course but uh, yeah oh, yeah.109100:55:57.960 --> 00:56:00.360



AWESOME i can't wait to come see you for my109200:56:00.519 --> 00:56:05.960



First bailey. SHOW i will be. THERE i can't wait.109300:56:06.440 --> 00:56:11.559



Hopefully, honestly you know, WHAT i would say that your109400:56:11.599 --> 00:56:16.000



injury has probably saved me all tour BECAUSE i swing109500:56:16.039 --> 00:56:19.679



in on a rope. Swing SO i bet he was, Like,109600:56:19.679 --> 00:56:21.840



Okay i'm gonna have him break his knees so he'll be.109700:56:21.920 --> 00:56:25.840



Good you, know, Hey i'll take it for, you, Man109800:56:25.880 --> 00:56:26.280



i'll take.109900:56:26.320 --> 00:56:28.559



It so basically What i'm saying is thank.110000:56:28.599 --> 00:56:31.880



YOU i got, YOU i got. You how's the?110100:56:31.960 --> 00:56:32.199



Knee?110200:56:32.199 --> 00:56:35.199



NOW i was on crutches for like five months and110300:56:35.239 --> 00:56:37.719



a full full brace from like my hip to my.110400:56:38.719 --> 00:56:42.079



Ankle Now i'm on Like i'm supposed to be using a,110500:56:42.119 --> 00:56:45.440



cane But i'm kind of hard. Headed so NOW i110600:56:45.480 --> 00:56:50.760



have like a, small you, know sleeve or. Whatever and110700:56:50.800 --> 00:56:52.960



But i'm you, Know i'm an active. PERSON i normally110800:56:53.000 --> 00:56:55.840



am traveling a lot for my show and all and110900:56:55.880 --> 00:56:59.280



that all just, stopped which. Sucked SO i ended. Up111000:56:59.280 --> 00:57:02.639



i'm a Huge heart movie, fan AND i ended up111100:57:02.679 --> 00:57:04.760



writing this book BECAUSE i had three MONTHS i couldn't.111200:57:04.800 --> 00:57:07.079



DRIVE i was relying on other, People SO i wrote111300:57:07.119 --> 00:57:09.320



this book called thirty One days of, horror which is111400:57:09.360 --> 00:57:12.679



like it's like a challenge for my listeners and. Viewers111500:57:12.920 --> 00:57:16.480



each day In, October i've chosen a different horror movie111600:57:16.519 --> 00:57:18.880



and there's like interactive elements and like behind the scenes,111700:57:18.960 --> 00:57:22.119



stuff and SO i tried to do something productive BECAUSE111800:57:22.119 --> 00:57:24.159



i feel like you AND i are similar in that111900:57:24.199 --> 00:57:28.000



way that LIKE i can't be still and so you,112000:57:28.039 --> 00:57:30.360



Know i'm kind of forced to be stuck in my112100:57:30.480 --> 00:57:32.800



house And i'm, Like, okay what CAN i? Do what112200:57:32.840 --> 00:57:34.760



CAN i do that's? Creative all, Right i'm gonna write a.112300:57:34.760 --> 00:57:36.960



Book i'm gonna do. This i'm gonna do. That i'm112400:57:37.000 --> 00:57:39.800



gonna to be, like, DUDE i broke my.112500:57:39.880 --> 00:57:41.199



KNEE i Think i'm gonna write a. Book.112600:57:41.400 --> 00:57:49.559



YEAH i was, like my house is the cleanest it's112700:57:49.599 --> 00:57:52.320



ever been in my, life because you, KNOW i was112800:57:52.360 --> 00:57:55.000



like using my crutches AND i would sit down on112900:57:55.039 --> 00:57:57.079



the floor and then just like hand do. It i'm113000:57:57.119 --> 00:58:00.719



LIKE i was after like the third or fourth, DAY113100:58:00.760 --> 00:58:02.760



i had run out of things to, do you, know113200:58:02.800 --> 00:58:05.079



And i'm, like what AM i gonna do? Now so113300:58:05.119 --> 00:58:08.119



THEN i just started getting, creative you, know finding that.113400:58:08.239 --> 00:58:11.960



Outlet so write a, book, yes, sir, yes, Sir.113500:58:13.639 --> 00:58:15.519



Well, dude it seems like you're on the home stretch.113600:58:15.559 --> 00:58:15.719



Then.113700:58:15.800 --> 00:58:19.719



Cool, yeah, Yeah i'm getting. There i'm absolutely getting, There.113800:58:20.039 --> 00:58:25.519



Bailey the album is, incredible the song again number one113900:58:26.000 --> 00:58:30.599



another number one as we, speak and, uh and you114000:58:30.639 --> 00:58:32.440



know you got what a couple of shows left right114100:58:32.480 --> 00:58:33.239



on this this.114200:58:33.280 --> 00:58:36.159



STORE i think we have one show.114300:58:36.000 --> 00:58:40.199



Left one show, okay and they they'll be able to114400:58:40.360 --> 00:58:43.119



follow you for tour dates for next year AND i114500:58:43.199 --> 00:58:46.519



will be there. Myself. BRO i can't. WAIT i can't. Wait,114600:58:46.559 --> 00:58:48.920



Bro please come on your come on whenever you. Want114700:58:48.920 --> 00:58:51.639



but your next, album your next, project let's do it.114800:58:51.719 --> 00:58:53.679



Up, yeah, Dude we've got a lot more to talk.114900:58:53.719 --> 00:58:55.599



ABOUT i CAN i can feel. It i'm LIKE i115000:58:55.679 --> 00:58:59.480



want to talk. More so, yeah absolutely Absolutely thanks for115100:58:59.480 --> 00:59:00.880



having me on this, one. Dude this is so.115200:59:00.960 --> 00:59:05.280



COOL i once again never thought i'd ever be Where i'm,115300:59:05.320 --> 00:59:07.719



At so this is really cool getting to talk to115400:59:07.760 --> 00:59:08.480



you and talk about.115500:59:08.559 --> 00:59:08.679



That.115600:59:08.800 --> 00:59:11.320



Thanks, oh thank you, Man thank you for being such115700:59:11.360 --> 00:59:13.119



a great. Artist thank you for being such a great,115800:59:13.159 --> 00:59:15.760



guy being open and. VULNERABLE i appreciate. It.115900:59:15.800 --> 00:59:22.960



Bro oh yeah much love, Always bro and, lady it's.116000:59:22.880 --> 00:59:26.599



My, Boy Bailly. ZIMMERMAN i love, that. Dude so. Much116100:59:26.679 --> 00:59:31.719



he's just like a genuinely amazing soul and such a116200:59:31.760 --> 00:59:34.360



talented guy AND i just love. HIM i can't say116300:59:34.440 --> 00:59:38.239



enough good stuff about. Him All, right that's another episode116400:59:38.320 --> 00:59:41.719



of Pop Culture. Weekly huge thanks To Michael, Chavez James,116500:59:41.719 --> 00:59:45.280



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it down in your. Diar. Sorry I'm kyle McMahon and117101:00:02.239 --> 01:00:06.599



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